I’ll never understand why we just can’t do the exact same things as Republicans do thats within the letter of the law (hopefully spirit-ish but letter is the main concern)

Illegal migrants employed? Texas bounty

Illegal guns possession or production? Texas bounty

Abuse of religious tax exemption or religious political activism? Texas bounty

Seperation of church and state violations? Texas bounty

Get the direct witnesses to trash some scratch for the trouble and watch the streets clean themselves

as a non-American, do I even dare ask what you’re talking about?

Republicans literally hunting women

Liberals: “if only we could disarm women, things would be better.”

Don’t bring that to their attention- they’ll start banning open source too.

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Now available as a .stl file!

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Probably the gun industry lobbying for this 🫢

There are still a bunch of torrents being seeded out there.

Fosscad.org has a good zip archive, I still see some from time to time on printables aswell.

Ban pipes when?

It wouldn’t surprise me if somebody tried to get such a thing passed in a couple of years.

Money is easy, many currencies have the “Eurion constellation” which can be recognized by the copier. It will be much harder to recognise a 3d printed part to detect something that can be made into a gun.

3d printing != paper printing. It’s largely hobbyist ran technology, and almost entirely open source. You’re not going to get tracking dots or currency replication prevention into open source software.

Yeah that was my thoughts too. It’s not like it can’t be bypassed but it’s not “easy.” This is kinda how I see it going for commercial 3D printers. It’s not a bad thing either. I’ve always been a fan of making people earn dangerous knowledge & skills. Even in fictional universes like Star Trek there’s restrictions on using a replicator to make weapons.

So it’s not unreasonable, imho, to put some kind of guard rails up that force people to actively bypass restrictions in making weapons.

The trick will be telling the difference between making a nerf gun, action figure guns, and an actual weapon. That I don’t see being possible at this time. Too many edge cases that don’t neatly fit.

You can’t 3D print a gun, but you can buy one without a background check. Brilliant.

Hit the nail right on the head for what they want. Why do you think they are making laws to ban porn? It’s a hide behind think of the children to get your foot in the door to control more

or the us, isnt it easy to just get a regular gun in there?

My understanding is that the metal parts are bought. The only part of a gun that is controlled legally is fine in plastic

Never stopped them before from still passing half-assed laws.

I don’t know the answer to the question, but paper printers cannot print bank notes apparently

Just spitballing but you’d have to align the desired shape somehow, perhaps with a singular value decomposition. Once its transform was normalized you could compare its shape, or perhaps its convex hull, with a database of banned shapes.

The problem is this is pretty easy to defeat (by adding extra sprues and spikes to the object, breaking it into two shapes, etc) and the more aggressive you get with the check the more you risk false positives.

An AI training set would involve creating a dataset of all the banned shapes, then generating tens of thousands of permutations of them however you believe people might try to trick it. Ultimately the AI would lock onto some small feature of the shape that scores it as positive, perhaps something trivial. That also leads to weird false positives. This also creates an arms race as people figure out what that feature is subvert it.

This problem is much harder in 3D than in 2D (currency). Since you can also cut, file, and glue shit that comes out of a 3D printer later I don’t think this is a solvable problem. Like most gun control measures in the USA it appears to be aesthetics.

You could also just aggressively go false positive all over the place and say “fuck the users”, with exceptions for cops. This is basically the USA’s approach to drones.

Since the best available firmware is open source I don’t see any way of imposing limits on it.

The printer itself doesn’t even know what it’s making since it’s reading directions one by one, so any limits would need to be implemented at a slicer level, which are also basically all open source (at least any worth using).

The only way I could see it working would be mandating that all printers sold in the US come with software checks against it and be non reflashable, but considering a new driver board that would be able to drive 95% of printers is about $25 it is nothing more than screaming into the void.

Yup, this just sounds impossible without just banning the printers. Guns don’t have to conform to typical gun shapes. You could just print anything that can function as a barrel and some of the other pieces and then just go in the garage and whittle a handle from a piece of wood or something. Make a part that is much larger and then just cut off the piece you want. I mean there are so many ways around this it’s not even funny.

3d printing 3d printing machine. infinite money hax O.o?

From what I have seen 3d printing is used to create the exterior of the gun. The functional firing parts such as the barrel are made out of machined metal

Irrelevant: the goal is not preventing shootings (I mean, they would go for the obvious solution otherwise)

not sure but I heard they recently caught the FGC-9 designer

EDIT found the story: news.sky.com/…/jacob-duygu-incel-who-mysteriously…

This isn’t really about safety, it’s about gun manufacturer profits.

Exactly what I was thinking. It’s really funny if you think about it. There are currently more guns in the US than there are people. I guess they will combat this by limiting 3d printing.

Worst thing is, with any systemic rule change, the change js not instant. Allowing something like that would wither cause a spike up in crimes, or we’d feel it down the line. On the other hand, banning them doesn’t make sense, either.

even if police were perfect plenty of people would still want to do it themselves, as with anything there will be hobbyists. Some hobbies are more legal than others.

Maybe they can partner with Epson or Brother, they’re pretty good at keeping their printers from printing