Google 'playing with fire' by acquiring Israeli company founded by Unit 8200 veterans (www.middleeasteye.net)
from geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 08:11
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Google employees and human rights groups have raised concerns about the tech giant’s purchase of an Israeli start-up in an unprecedented $32bn deal.

Google on Tuesday announced the all-cash acquisition of Wiz, an Israeli cloud security firm which was founded by former members of Unit 8200, an elite Israeli army cyber-espionage and surveillance unit.

The deal comes with the Google already facing internal and external pressure over its controversial Project Nimbus contract, through which along with Amazon it provides cloud computing and AI services to the Israeli government and military.

A spokesperson for No Tech for Apartheid, a coalition of Google and Amazon workers campaigning against the companies’ involvement with Israel, said Google was “playing with fire” by buying Wiz.

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geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 08:14 next collapse

Paul Biggar made a great summary about how these “acquisitions” serve to get Israeli spies into American tech companies. Those spies then use their powers for Israel.

The Wiz acquisition is the largest transfer of Israeli intelligence operatives into Big Tech in history.

itstoowet@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 09:34 next collapse

I’m convinced my old company was complicit in this to some degree. It was a start up with absolutely silly funding for a bunch of products (b2c and b2b) that were aimed to hoover up personal information under the guise of gaming.

For some reason we were told to start an office in Tel Aviv and to specifically hire devs from unit 8200.

mina86@lemmy.wtf on 24 Mar 10:19 next collapse

It’s easier to get operatives to apply for a job and get hired than build a company which ends up being bought. This sounds like conspiracy theory to me. Any large US corporation likely has operatives of various countries working for it.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 13:42 collapse

Not every “conspiracy” is fiction. Anyone paying attention the last two years cannot deny that the pro-Israel positions these companies hold are completely nonsensical.

The flowchart in Pauls article is pretty representative how Israeli spies use their position to redirect funds to Israeli companies, which then get acquired and given prominent roles in American companies and VC. Which then send more funds to Israel. Etc etc.

AIPAC is also an amazing example of a few hundred million in Israeli bribes to politicians is sending billions of taxpayer dollars back to Israel.

But besides politics it is extremely visible in news organizations:

Revealed The Israeli Spies Writing America’s News

And tech organizations:

Revealed: The Former Israeli Spies Working in Top Jobs at Google, Facebook and Microsoft

mina86@lemmy.wtf on 24 Mar 15:42 collapse

Nothing you wrote contradicts the observation that it’s easier to apply for a job and get it than to construct a full blown company which needs to be acquired. If there are already 99 ‘spies’ at Google, there’s hardly need for such elaborate schemes.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 16:52 collapse

The IDF soldiers do not have to apply for Google and pass the Google application entrance exam.

Also the acquisition can happen for a far higher amount than the company’s true worth. Thus sending a lot of Google money to Israel.

It is very doubtable Wiz is worth what Google is paying.

Similar to how AIPAC works, the IDF spies goal is not to make money, but to invest other people’s money into Israel.

mina86@lemmy.wtf on 25 Mar 12:17 collapse

Everything you’re describing is further speculation and unfalsifiable statements for events which already have a simpler explanation. That’s a tell-tale sign of a conspiracy theory.

Google buying the company as some kind of plot to get spies into Google requires more assumptions than Google buying the company for the technology (as it has done with plethora of other companies). If Google is somehow complicit in it, they could just hire those people directly. And if it’s all covert operation, Israel is capable of training and coaching their spies to pass Google’s interviews. Google interviews aren’t trivial, but it’s also not some super-elite company which hires only the top 0.01% of software engineers.

If you want to convince me otherwise, you need to demonstrate why your explanation is more likely than the obvious one.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 25 Mar 12:45 collapse

AIPAC.

queermunist@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 13:49 collapse

As if Google isn’t already crammed with Israeli spies. In fact, that’s probably why an Israeli company just got a sweetheart buy out from Google! This is just a continuation of a pre-existing issue Google already had.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 14:32 collapse

It also puts $4billion directly into the Israeli tax bank for some much needed genocide funding.

Evrala@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 10:15 next collapse

I’m still using Gmail, mostly cause of how much of a hassle it is to change to a new email address. Shit like this is really making me find motivation to switch.

spicebag@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 10:38 next collapse

Proton makes it easy to switch by setting up email forwarding from your Gmail to protonmail

a1studmuffin@aussie.zone on 24 Mar 16:42 collapse

Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of switching, if Google still get to harvest all your data?

droplet6585@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 17:30 next collapse

Presumably you would switch or cancel accounts/subscriptions as the emails get forwarded.

This would be for a mop up of old subscriptions you forgot about.

spicebag@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 19:01 collapse

It’s to ease the transition

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 24 Mar 12:29 next collapse

When you do eventually switch, I’d recommend getting your own domain and using an email address at that domain, so that your email address becomes independent of your email provider. It will make it easier to switch again in future should you need to, because you can keep the same email address and use it with a new provider.

skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de on 24 Mar 18:54 collapse

Don’t feel like you have to race. It took about a year to shift e-mail addresses last time I did it. Keep the old one as a harvesting point until you move over what you want. Then just leave the old one around to use up space on Google’s servers if you really want to softly be a dick. (They eventually close them after some period of inactivity.)

Basic steps for a slightly more thorough method that also preserves old e-mail:

  • Do a GDPR/Google data dump of your gmail to mbox file(s).
  • Install Mozilla Thunderbird on a computer and use ImportExportTools NG to import the mbox file(s) into Thunderbird so you can access all your old e-mail.
  • Delete all e-mail from Gmail.
  • Turn off all mail rules on Gmail so everything just comes to the inbox.
  • You can forward to your new address if you want to, or, just let email collect in the old account and switch addresses from time to time as you use various services.
  • After a time, delete the account if you so choose, or leave it dormant until Google deletes it.
juli@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 14:21 next collapse

Also isn’t that valuation way overblown so they can send billions in tax to Israel, behind the facade of a “deal”.

Google’s on: “Let’s see how EVIL we can get”

WbrJr@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 18:10 collapse

I did not know they had a new slogan

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Mar 16:25 next collapse

Google isn’t “playing with fire”. They’re a major contributor to this genocidal bonfire.

geography082@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:33 collapse

Humanity is so screwed that I don’t want to bring children to this world

Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee on 25 Mar 13:38 collapse

Terminal birth rates across the world are the real gift that keeps giving