China claims Nvidia built backdoor into H20 chip designed for Chinese market (arstechnica.com)
from geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.ml on 02 Aug 07:37
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China’s cyber regulator on Thursday said it had held a meeting with Nvidia over what it called “serious security issues” with the company’s artificial intelligence chips.

It said US AI experts had “revealed that Nvidia’s computing chips have location tracking and can remotely shut down the technology.”

The Cyberspace Administration of China requested that Nvidia explain the security problems associated with the H20 chip, which was designed for the Chinese market to comply with US export restrictions, and submit documentation to support their case. The announcement comes as Nvidia is rebuilding its China business after Washington this month lifted a ban on H20 sales to the country.

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TarantulaFudge@lemmy.ml on 02 Aug 09:29 next collapse

Oooh spicy!! I wonder how much infra in China is powered by these chips

CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world on 02 Aug 10:37 next collapse

Oh no, poor China!

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 02 Aug 12:55 next collapse

I see the fash instance is leaking again

SinJab0n@mujico.org on 03 Aug 14:53 collapse

Sure bud, just tell me how long it will take until they do the same here (trusting they havent done already with TPM not to mention more shady stuff)

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 02 Aug 19:18 next collapse

Can’t wait for this to be generalized so that Easy Anti-Cheat or PunkBuster tell EA or Bethesda to lock your GPU because their faulty launcher detected you tried to play offline twice.

Initially preventing “bad guys” (really big quotes here) to do “bag things” (AFAICT it’s mostly lame LLMs, not actual dangerous military stuff, which for those they actually already have supercomputers allocated) sounds like a good idea… until it inexorably tricky down (unlike money and power) to citizens worldwide.

I don’t think remotely control CPUs or GPUs can end well for citizens. It won’t be PC as in Personal Computer, rather remotely controlled terminals for whomever is in power.

emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works on 03 Aug 09:07 next collapse

This doesn’t really make sense. Why would your computer give the GPU / NPU access to GPS location? Unless Nvidia is somehow embedding GPS sensors in their chips - which would be obvious to Chinese cybersecurity - this should be a simple software fix. Intel Management Engine is a genuine risk, but I think China has banned / restricted Intel CPUs already.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 04 Aug 16:50 collapse

It might be China trying to force their own companies to use Chinese hardware. I heavily doubt that it would include a GPS chip. At most some way to guess the location by combining many different types of information such as nearby routers /WiFi networks etc.

There are crafty ways to guess a location without GPS. Though I have no idea what this one would entail if at all true.

ZephyrXero@lemmy.world on 04 Aug 16:24 collapse

Seems to make sense at a surface level. US bans chip exports to China. Then suddenly this one’s okay, for some inexplicable reason?? And then also our government loves accusing other countries of doing what we are already doing