dinckelman@lemmy.world
on 01 Sep 10:49
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As long as medical devices are excluded, this is just a net-positive. When I was growing up, that was the normal. Now, we treat it as some heavy-handed approach. We all know that when you’re distracted by stuff on the screen, you’re just not paying attention
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 01 Sep 15:46
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When I was growing up the only distraction in class what the wall clock. I remember watching the seconds hand go slowly around, 60 times and then the bell at least, and then we’d do this 3 more times and finally it was lunch time, we ate gelatinous meat like protein paste with mashed potatoes and go back to class and I’d watch the seconds hand go around 240 more times before we had the hour and a half bus ride home.
I never did homeworks but still passed. We didn’t have anything to do and I didn’t want to do much of anything anyway. I’d watch TV, it was almost always stuff I’d seen before, cartoon slop and obvious lies and half-truth on the news program.
At some point I would finally become unconscious in bed, then wake up too early and do it all again. This lasted about 12 years and then I had to find a job and then things took a turn for the worse because I couldn’t just watch the wall clock anymore. At least if I wanted to eat I couldn’t.
Luxury. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
on 01 Sep 11:03
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Yeah I mean why would you let young people have fun or anything like that? If they are constantly bored, they will certainly be happier. Or something…
amju_wolf@pawb.social
on 01 Sep 11:54
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They’re at school. They can have fun after school.
th3dogcow@lemmy.world
on 01 Sep 12:31
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After school, many students will go to cram school. It’s the same here in Japan.
Are schools supposed to be stagnant, with children being transported to the 15th century as soon as they turn 6?
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 01 Sep 12:05
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Whether you are even capable of learning stuff depends entirely on your genetics and epigendtics. Only a few students in any one area will ever retain much knowledge. The thing that actually determines how well your society becomes, tends to be things like how happy the childhood of your citizens are. Very few people ever seek knowledge long term within a healthy lifestyle. School for most kids is just a way to babysit them while the parents work long shifts for corporations.
The tragedy is the kids in south korea hardly get a childhood at all. They stay in ultra competative schools during the day, only to be shuttled off to cram schools in the evening. They are not even human beings in the eyes of their own parents. They exist soley to fullfill the dreams of their parents, which is to hopefully work hard enough to become some executive for one of the seveal corporations that almost completly own the South Korean Economy.
Many of these kids, like many in South Korea will grow up to be massivly depressed alchoholics and workaholics. Never having much of a life beyond serving their managers. This comes out in several ways in the character of Koreans. Many of them are incredibly dark people. Thats why media like the squid games is so popular over there. Behind the venure of a very productive and industrious society where most forgo almost all of their individuality, never even having a childhood. Behind it lies so many incredibly dark and deeply depressed people traped within a virtual prison of wealth and status.
People like this would maybe end up ruling the world, given they work so much, and so hard, yet with their childhood also dies their soul. Their creativity dies, their dreams die, their human spirit is deminished in the hell they create and call progress. The parts of their dna that make them human, slowly whither away under hyper corporatism. Just like everything else in their society a child is nothing more then property. An investment by corporations. A robot that is as equally bland as it is numb. Never does anyone in a society like that actually consider that maybe they dont have a right to dictate every little aspect of their childs life in order to promote what they believe a child should be. So those that feel, those that see deeply the lights in the city nights. Those that see beauty. They die away as the human race regresses day by day.
South Korea has always been a deeply disturbing place to me. A place that is truely inhumane, yet such a beautiful place as well. Behind every woman who looks likes a flight attendent, and every man wearing a suit or dress clothes, is a society which has almost no creativity and soul. No individualism. No happiness. No relationships. Everything is about efficency, everything is about materialism. All the money in the world doesnt matter if you don’t get to fall in love with someone, and have dreams, and watch your kids play and be happy. What is even the point of life it is nothing but work, followed by a few hours a drinking before crashing out for the night, and starting it all over again?
Amoxtli@thelemmy.club
on 01 Sep 12:30
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The text argues that while genetics and upbringing shape learning, societal structures—especially in South Korea—reduce children to tools for corporate success, stripping away individuality, creativity, and joy. Beneath the country’s image of productivity and wealth lies a culture of depression, lost childhoods, and a soulless pursuit of status and efficiency.
Thanks Ai
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 01 Sep 15:49
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No amount of genetic is going to help make learning of useless things and doing obvious time filler activities fun or interesting
Once again, Western countries and their vassals will always treat the symptom and not address the multitude of causes (because it leads directly back to them).
A society dumb enough to not read into how they’re being exploited but smart enough to build railroads and crunch numbers as an accountant is exactly the kind of society needed for bougies. So an 8 or 9 hour literal work shift for kids + homework + projects is the best they could offer, which isn’t exactly going to inspire confidence in students, so of course stimulus before, during and after class will be sought after if it means coping with this shit.
devolution@lemmy.world
on 01 Sep 15:59
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With good reasons, there are a lot of countries with an Mobile ban in classrooms, or at least cut mobile network, only controlled WiFi of school server when are PC used in class. The kids are in class to study and not using a chat or cheating with AI.
usefulchickadee@norcal.social
on 02 Sep 14:21
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This don’t make sense either, if they have access to firearms But these caveman society prefer to ban books instead of weapons. Stupid and ignorant people with asoult rifles, what can go wrong?
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As long as medical devices are excluded, this is just a net-positive. When I was growing up, that was the normal. Now, we treat it as some heavy-handed approach. We all know that when you’re distracted by stuff on the screen, you’re just not paying attention
When I was growing up the only distraction in class what the wall clock. I remember watching the seconds hand go slowly around, 60 times and then the bell at least, and then we’d do this 3 more times and finally it was lunch time, we ate gelatinous meat like protein paste with mashed potatoes and go back to class and I’d watch the seconds hand go around 240 more times before we had the hour and a half bus ride home.
I never did homeworks but still passed. We didn’t have anything to do and I didn’t want to do much of anything anyway. I’d watch TV, it was almost always stuff I’d seen before, cartoon slop and obvious lies and half-truth on the news program.
At some point I would finally become unconscious in bed, then wake up too early and do it all again. This lasted about 12 years and then I had to find a job and then things took a turn for the worse because I couldn’t just watch the wall clock anymore. At least if I wanted to eat I couldn’t.
Luxury. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
Yeah I mean why would you let young people have fun or anything like that? If they are constantly bored, they will certainly be happier. Or something…
They’re at school. They can have fun after school.
After school, many students will go to cram school. It’s the same here in Japan.
School is overrated today.
I don't remember my teachers allowing students to take TVs to the classroom when I was a kid. And classes could also be boring back then.
Are schools supposed to be stagnant, with children being transported to the 15th century as soon as they turn 6?
Whether you are even capable of learning stuff depends entirely on your genetics and epigendtics. Only a few students in any one area will ever retain much knowledge. The thing that actually determines how well your society becomes, tends to be things like how happy the childhood of your citizens are. Very few people ever seek knowledge long term within a healthy lifestyle. School for most kids is just a way to babysit them while the parents work long shifts for corporations.
The tragedy is the kids in south korea hardly get a childhood at all. They stay in ultra competative schools during the day, only to be shuttled off to cram schools in the evening. They are not even human beings in the eyes of their own parents. They exist soley to fullfill the dreams of their parents, which is to hopefully work hard enough to become some executive for one of the seveal corporations that almost completly own the South Korean Economy.
Many of these kids, like many in South Korea will grow up to be massivly depressed alchoholics and workaholics. Never having much of a life beyond serving their managers. This comes out in several ways in the character of Koreans. Many of them are incredibly dark people. Thats why media like the squid games is so popular over there. Behind the venure of a very productive and industrious society where most forgo almost all of their individuality, never even having a childhood. Behind it lies so many incredibly dark and deeply depressed people traped within a virtual prison of wealth and status.
People like this would maybe end up ruling the world, given they work so much, and so hard, yet with their childhood also dies their soul. Their creativity dies, their dreams die, their human spirit is deminished in the hell they create and call progress. The parts of their dna that make them human, slowly whither away under hyper corporatism. Just like everything else in their society a child is nothing more then property. An investment by corporations. A robot that is as equally bland as it is numb. Never does anyone in a society like that actually consider that maybe they dont have a right to dictate every little aspect of their childs life in order to promote what they believe a child should be. So those that feel, those that see deeply the lights in the city nights. Those that see beauty. They die away as the human race regresses day by day.
South Korea has always been a deeply disturbing place to me. A place that is truely inhumane, yet such a beautiful place as well. Behind every woman who looks likes a flight attendent, and every man wearing a suit or dress clothes, is a society which has almost no creativity and soul. No individualism. No happiness. No relationships. Everything is about efficency, everything is about materialism. All the money in the world doesnt matter if you don’t get to fall in love with someone, and have dreams, and watch your kids play and be happy. What is even the point of life it is nothing but work, followed by a few hours a drinking before crashing out for the night, and starting it all over again?
TLDR
The text argues that while genetics and upbringing shape learning, societal structures—especially in South Korea—reduce children to tools for corporate success, stripping away individuality, creativity, and joy. Beneath the country’s image of productivity and wealth lies a culture of depression, lost childhoods, and a soulless pursuit of status and efficiency.
Thanks Ai
No amount of genetic is going to help make learning of useless things and doing obvious time filler activities fun or interesting
Once again, Western countries and their vassals will always treat the symptom and not address the multitude of causes (because it leads directly back to them).
A society dumb enough to not read into how they’re being exploited but smart enough to build railroads and crunch numbers as an accountant is exactly the kind of society needed for bougies. So an 8 or 9 hour literal work shift for kids + homework + projects is the best they could offer, which isn’t exactly going to inspire confidence in students, so of course stimulus before, during and after class will be sought after if it means coping with this shit.
Cell phones in school are a bane.
Oh, good.
That’s actually great. When I’m in school, I do all of my things on a laptop (except for turning on hotspot on my phone since the WiFi there is shit).
When I was in school, I used a Book, pen and paper and with the help of this to calculate, computers only in big companies, working with punch cards
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School? Prison?
Capitalism: They’re the same.
With good reasons, there are a lot of countries with an Mobile ban in classrooms, or at least cut mobile network, only controlled WiFi of school server when are PC used in class. The kids are in class to study and not using a chat or cheating with AI.
@Zerush
@tfowinder
American kids need theirs in case there's a shooting.
This don’t make sense either, if they have access to firearms But these caveman society prefer to ban books instead of weapons. Stupid and ignorant people with asoult rifles, what can go wrong?