Exactly. What’s the point? Steam Deck exists and is a more reasonable option for gaming than laptops. Get a Chromebook or MacBook Air and a Deck and save yourself a bunch of cash.
I guess one would have to define “nice”, usually it’s power:price:weight pick 2. I am assuming that weight is important, otherwise it’s just a portable desktop.
we can agree to disagree then. people i know tend to favor thicker phones after i explain they can have better battery life and etc. they are just being misinformed on that one.
besides, engineers should be in charge of that. not the bean counters, not marketers and not designers.
people who are completely misinformed shouldnt dictate how we make our stuff
Ryzen laptops which feature capable integrated GPUs serve light and medium gaming tasks well. For heavy use, there are desktops, which is where the real power is. Portable systems like the Steam Deck are also hitting from the mobile side as well.
Gaming laptops have always been an extremely niche product and have gotten squeezed from all ends in recent years.
Gaming laptops have always been an extremely expensive but less capable desktop. Their portability is laughable, and pointless. Their battery life is non-existent, and if you can’t easilly move them, and you also have to plug them in all the time, then what does a laptop give you?
Not to mention their bad keyboards, bad speakers, a touchpad? and compromised screen. Not only should they be left behind, they shouldn’t have existed in the first place.
Daxtron2@startrek.website
on 09 Jun 04:46
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Hard disagree. I can game anywhere I can get power, wireless mice are ridiculously cheap, mine weighs less than 5lbs, heavy compared to ultra lights but compared to a desktop that’s literally nothing. If you’re using the built in speakers on any device, you deserve the bad audio quality lol. My laptop’s screen has no issues. 240hz, anti-glare, 1ms response time. This really should be about low end gaming laptops.
If you’re using the built in speakers on any device, you deserve the bad audio quality lol.
It’s possible to make good built in speakers. The MacBook Pros sound great, even the new iPads sound way better than you’d ever expect from such a thin device. My 13” M4 iPad Pro even has decent bass, it’s ridiculous.
Is it as good as a stand alone amplifier with two tower speakers? No, of course not. But I’m not bringing those along with me either.
Daxtron2@startrek.website
on 10 Jun 13:59
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Sure, but like you said you’re not expecting top-of-the-line quality from tiny speakers. Mine are pretty decent too but I almost never use them as I get much better quality from just plugging in some good headphones.
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I’ve used a gaming laptop since 2016 an Acer Predator 15. I use it on the couch, always have done. It has none of the issues you describe. It’s perfect, I wouldn’t go back to a desktop.
semperverus@lemmy.world
on 09 Jun 05:49
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Regardless of if their gpus are weaker, they are absolutely causing the focus on gaming laptops to wane, and wane hard. Why build a high end $2000 laptop that sells 10,000 units when you could make a $600-1000 handheld that sells 250,000 to 3,000,000 units?
sheogorath@lemmy.world
on 09 Jun 06:07
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It’s all offset by the small screen. Playing Ghost of Tsushima on low-medium graphics coupled with frame gen is chef’s kiss on a handheld.
I use my deck more than my powerful laptop. Because I can use my PC instead of my laptop and dock my Steam Deck and work wherever I need, instead of my laptop.
Laptops don’t have their place for gaming anymore for most people now.
But my dream laptop came out named Starlite from Star Labs which is small, has a detachable keyboard, can code and write with an stylus and live up to 14h. Like a chromebook or tablet. So idk. Some people would probably still need a Laptop for Blender and stuff on the go.
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With everything trying to compete with the deck I can see why. Gaming laptops are going to have to compete with those from now on, too.
Exactly. What’s the point? Steam Deck exists and is a more reasonable option for gaming than laptops. Get a Chromebook or MacBook Air and a Deck and save yourself a bunch of cash.
dunno about you but where i live you can get a nice gaming laptop for the price of any mac
I guess one would have to define “nice”, usually it’s power:price:weight pick 2. I am assuming that weight is important, otherwise it’s just a portable desktop.
isnt the point of laptops to be a portable desktop?
That’s the entire fucking point of a laptop.
ThinkPads are true portable desktops. MacBooks are enlarged iPads.
i guess gpus are now for generating bullshit text or something instead, so oh well
tell you what, make them modular and repairable and ill consider one
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its easy to blame consumers when these companies barely have any marketing and regular consumers don’t know the difference.
nobody would be buying devices for their thinnes if they understood the tradeoff.
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we can agree to disagree then. people i know tend to favor thicker phones after i explain they can have better battery life and etc. they are just being misinformed on that one.
besides, engineers should be in charge of that. not the bean counters, not marketers and not designers.
people who are completely misinformed shouldnt dictate how we make our stuff
Ryzen laptops which feature capable integrated GPUs serve light and medium gaming tasks well. For heavy use, there are desktops, which is where the real power is. Portable systems like the Steam Deck are also hitting from the mobile side as well.
Gaming laptops have always been an extremely niche product and have gotten squeezed from all ends in recent years.
Gaming laptops have always been an extremely expensive but less capable desktop. Their portability is laughable, and pointless. Their battery life is non-existent, and if you can’t easilly move them, and you also have to plug them in all the time, then what does a laptop give you?
Not to mention their bad keyboards, bad speakers, a touchpad? and compromised screen. Not only should they be left behind, they shouldn’t have existed in the first place.
Hard disagree. I can game anywhere I can get power, wireless mice are ridiculously cheap, mine weighs less than 5lbs, heavy compared to ultra lights but compared to a desktop that’s literally nothing. If you’re using the built in speakers on any device, you deserve the bad audio quality lol. My laptop’s screen has no issues. 240hz, anti-glare, 1ms response time. This really should be about low end gaming laptops.
It’s possible to make good built in speakers. The MacBook Pros sound great, even the new iPads sound way better than you’d ever expect from such a thin device. My 13” M4 iPad Pro even has decent bass, it’s ridiculous.
Is it as good as a stand alone amplifier with two tower speakers? No, of course not. But I’m not bringing those along with me either.
Sure, but like you said you’re not expecting top-of-the-line quality from tiny speakers. Mine are pretty decent too but I almost never use them as I get much better quality from just plugging in some good headphones.
I’ve used a gaming laptop since 2016 an Acer Predator 15. I use it on the couch, always have done. It has none of the issues you describe. It’s perfect, I wouldn’t go back to a desktop.
…and are being replaced with handhelds like the Steam Deck, ROG Ally, and Lenovo Legion Go, among others.
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Regardless of if their gpus are weaker, they are absolutely causing the focus on gaming laptops to wane, and wane hard. Why build a high end $2000 laptop that sells 10,000 units when you could make a $600-1000 handheld that sells 250,000 to 3,000,000 units?
It’s all offset by the small screen. Playing Ghost of Tsushima on low-medium graphics coupled with frame gen is chef’s kiss on a handheld.
Which handheld has framegen?
But yes I agree, I play that game every weekday on the train on my Steam deck.
For ghost of tsushima, all of them, as it has fsr3 and dlss 3 support.
I use my deck more than my powerful laptop. Because I can use my PC instead of my laptop and dock my Steam Deck and work wherever I need, instead of my laptop.
Laptops don’t have their place for gaming anymore for most people now.
But my dream laptop came out named Starlite from Star Labs which is small, has a detachable keyboard, can code and write with an stylus and live up to 14h. Like a chromebook or tablet. So idk. Some people would probably still need a Laptop for Blender and stuff on the go.
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idunno, we’ve been saying that for years and it just isn’t catching on. I think it’s just too complicated to support, market, etc.
Nah, it’s because $400 for a GPU enclosure is insane, at that rate I can just get the mid-range GPU built in with the regular price of the laptop