Cult of the Dead Cow Launches Encryption Protocol + ChatApp to preserve privacy. (gizmodo.com)
from Harry_h0udini@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.ml on 03 Aug 2023 15:48
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/1450587

The protocol is built from the same digital DNA as the Tor browser and the chat app Signal and will be used to create new ways for folks to communicate, share files, and generally surf the web while simultaneously protecting their privacy.

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aksdb@feddit.de on 03 Aug 2023 15:55 next collapse

I am always skeptical when new encryption protocols are announced. We already have quite a few properly reviewed and proven ones. Any new one has to stand all those tests first before it can be considered secure.

SheeEttin@lemmy.world on 03 Aug 2023 16:04 next collapse

It sounds like it’s a new app using existing encryption.

aksdb@feddit.de on 03 Aug 2023 16:27 collapse

That doesn’t say anything. I can tell you “I am using AES256” which is a proven cipher, but I can use it totally wrong, by using an inadequate block mode or not initializing it correctly. Or by using shitty keys, inadequate pseudo-random sources, etc.

h3ndrik@feddit.de on 03 Aug 2023 21:53 collapse

And you can leak metadata left and right, while having the actual message encrypted.

dingus@lemmy.ml on 03 Aug 2023 16:06 collapse

If it is based on Tor and Signal its not “new” and its probably a bad tech writer not understanding the details.

aksdb@feddit.de on 03 Aug 2023 16:22 collapse

If a new protocol is based on Tor and Signal, it’s still a new protocol. If they don’t use the existing protocols unmodified, they might break crucial parts in the larger security model.

Edit: even the website states

Veilid is a new, distributed communication protocol developed by Cult of the Dead

Manbart@beehaw.org on 03 Aug 2023 16:01 next collapse

Wow, I had no idea they are still around

sam@lemmy.ca on 03 Aug 2023 16:39 next collapse

Cult of the Dead Cow <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/49057217-a625-4e9c-9a95-277b3ce54722.jpeg">

kylegordon@lemmy.world on 03 Aug 2023 17:51 next collapse

Certainly takes me back a while!

django@discuss.tchncs.de on 04 Aug 2023 05:11 collapse

Feeling old today?

lps@lemmy.ml on 03 Aug 2023 16:49 next collapse

Sounds great, the more options users have the better, I say!

HughJanus@lemmy.ml on 03 Aug 2023 17:38 next collapse

Y tho

Jaysyn@kbin.social on 03 Aug 2023 17:51 next collapse

I haven't heard that name in a long time.

PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de on 03 Aug 2023 21:57 next collapse

This news makes it sound like theres no encrypted messaging protocols around. I wish it was more clear what is special about this one. Is it the integration of onion routing and end to end encryption into one protocol?

Auzy@beehaw.org on 04 Aug 2023 05:20 collapse

That’s a blast from the past haha. People were still using ICQ Messenger back then and MSN Messenger