cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
on 29 May 2024 15:23
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Or, it’s because whoever is doing this hates freedom of information and historical evidence. There’s a long list of powerful people and governments who have the resources and will to carry out these attacks.
Cyber warfare is real, and the Internet archive is a museum and library of culture and truth. It provides evidence and context to our past.
As in conventional war, it is valuable to the amoral to destroy culture and truth in order to control it. Many would like to kill that to supplant it with their version of events that can’t be refuted with evidence.
There’s an entire industry that harvests content from archive.org for modern ad spam
DessertStorms@kbin.social
on 29 May 2024 17:29
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Can you not make that point without the ableism?
Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
on 29 May 2024 20:30
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Retard is as ableist as idiot, moron or stupid. So you either need that energy for all of them or to leave it alone.
Oisteink@feddit.nl
on 29 May 2024 15:19
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how about ddosn’t? Please?
HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 29 May 2024 15:28
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I’ve been supporting Wikipedia with a monthly $5 donation. By now, ~$150 in total! I want to support all kinds of great projects, but I don’t have an infinite amount of money to share between everything that exists 😔
I might switch to a monthly donation to The Internet Archive just because of how crucial its existence is.
If only they hadn’t shot themselves so hard in the foot during covid with their book lending, and dug the hole so much deeper with their piss poor handling of the lawsuit.
While I do very much support what they do, I’d be reluctant to give them money, if only because it might go to paying their dumbass lawyer.
FaceDeer@fedia.io
on 29 May 2024 16:50
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Same here. I'm waiting to see that lawsuit reach its final conclusion, I don't want to throw good money after bad.
Even afterward, I'm concerned that they might go do some stupid stunt like that again. I'll want to see if there's any fallout among their leadership over getting into this situation.
The lawsuit wasn’t coming because they were in a strong grey area with one physical copy per digital. By offering unlimited copies they directly invited a lawsuit.
And then their legal defense had absolutely no competency behind it. They didn’t come with any legal principles, they basically just said “we shouldn’t be punished because we’re nice”, and then they tried the same style of argument during appeal, basically throwing money away on legal expenses. All the while they were campaigning for donations - the people that supported them were paying the lawyers, not for the IA’s regular activities.
Slayer@infosec.pub
on 29 May 2024 16:14
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drwho@beehaw.org
on 29 May 2024 17:13
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Is it bad that I keep wondering if one of the big book publishers bought a DDoS from somebody’s botnet?
TypicalHog@lemm.ee
on 29 May 2024 19:13
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They should release an app where people can donate a portion of their storage to be used for redundancy in case anything happens to the archive.
Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works
on 29 May 2024 22:13
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While I fully support the spirit of this idea, the problem here has little to do with a lack of storage redundancy and everything to do with the bandwidth limitations of a nonprofit company vs a malicious nation state that would seek to deny access to this sort of resource. Basically, given enough bandwidth, you either become resilient to most of these attacks or you become capable of performing them yourself on anyone with a slower connection than you.
I think the Internet Archive would be better served by direct donations, although I’d also love to see a complete torrent posted that gets updated regularly for anyone with the storage and bandwidth necessary to grab and then re-seed it. The web content alone is nearly a trillion pages, though, so that’s not going to be a long list of volunteers.
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Or, it’s because whoever is doing this hates freedom of information and historical evidence. There’s a long list of powerful people and governments who have the resources and will to carry out these attacks.
Cyber warfare is real, and the Internet archive is a museum and library of culture and truth. It provides evidence and context to our past.
As in conventional war, it is valuable to the amoral to destroy culture and truth in order to control it. Many would like to kill that to supplant it with their version of events that can’t be refuted with evidence.
Well said!
Betting this is someone desiring to monetize some or all of what they are offering. Could be any malicious government too
There’s an entire industry that harvests content from archive.org for modern ad spam
Can you not make that point without the ableism?
Retard is as ableist as idiot, moron or stupid. So you either need that energy for all of them or to leave it alone.
how about ddosn’t? Please?
I’ve been supporting Wikipedia with a monthly $5 donation. By now, ~$150 in total! I want to support all kinds of great projects, but I don’t have an infinite amount of money to share between everything that exists 😔
I might switch to a monthly donation to The Internet Archive just because of how crucial its existence is.
If only they hadn’t shot themselves so hard in the foot during covid with their book lending, and dug the hole so much deeper with their piss poor handling of the lawsuit.
While I do very much support what they do, I’d be reluctant to give them money, if only because it might go to paying their dumbass lawyer.
Same here. I'm waiting to see that lawsuit reach its final conclusion, I don't want to throw good money after bad.
Even afterward, I'm concerned that they might go do some stupid stunt like that again. I'll want to see if there's any fallout among their leadership over getting into this situation.
That lawsuit was a long time in coming. Covid just goosed the schedule forward about a year, and probably made it easier.
The lawsuit wasn’t coming because they were in a strong grey area with one physical copy per digital. By offering unlimited copies they directly invited a lawsuit.
And then their legal defense had absolutely no competency behind it. They didn’t come with any legal principles, they basically just said “we shouldn’t be punished because we’re nice”, and then they tried the same style of argument during appeal, basically throwing money away on legal expenses. All the while they were campaigning for donations - the people that supported them were paying the lawyers, not for the IA’s regular activities.
I think The Internet Archive needs it more.
www.makeuseof.com/…/wikipedia-millions-bank-beg/
Their main argument for not donating to Wikipedia is because it’s improperly monetized?
Good. I’m sick of everything good having to have every single aspect of it monetized. Fuck the modern corporate internet
summary of issues with Wikipedia written by a Lemmy developer ibis.wiki/…/Announcing_Ibis,_the_federated_Wikipe…
Is it bad that I keep wondering if one of the big book publishers bought a DDoS from somebody’s botnet?
They should release an app where people can donate a portion of their storage to be used for redundancy in case anything happens to the archive.
While I fully support the spirit of this idea, the problem here has little to do with a lack of storage redundancy and everything to do with the bandwidth limitations of a nonprofit company vs a malicious nation state that would seek to deny access to this sort of resource. Basically, given enough bandwidth, you either become resilient to most of these attacks or you become capable of performing them yourself on anyone with a slower connection than you.
I think the Internet Archive would be better served by direct donations, although I’d also love to see a complete torrent posted that gets updated regularly for anyone with the storage and bandwidth necessary to grab and then re-seed it. The web content alone is nearly a trillion pages, though, so that’s not going to be a long list of volunteers.
As you said, the solution is simple: Decentralized instances.
Anyone could spin a “WebArchive” instance and have the data synced from the other independent nodes… Similar to how crypto ledgers sync transactions…
But wait… this means anyone could see past removed important historical data from websites which may not benefit [ YOU KNOW WHO ]
Probably Zionist losers having trouble with recorded history again.
Yay, crimes against humanity!