Self-Driving Tesla Nearly Hits Oncoming Train, Raises New Concern On Car's Safety (www.ibtimes.co.uk)
from rosschie@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.ml on 21 May 2024 23:52
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Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train.

Nighttime dashcam footage from earlier this month in Ohio captured the harrowing scene: Doty’s Tesla rapidly approaching a train with no apparent deceleration. He insisted his Tesla was in Full Self-Driving mode when it barreled towards the train crossing without slowing down.

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RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world on 22 May 2024 00:28 next collapse

This picture does not look like what happens to a car when it is hit by a train

Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc on 22 May 2024 01:11 next collapse

Because it didn’t get hit by a train. Driver steer the car away from the passing train and hit a stop light.

deegeese@sopuli.xyz on 22 May 2024 02:25 next collapse

Can’t view, got a link?

50MYT@aussie.zone on 22 May 2024 03:46 collapse
KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world on 22 May 2024 05:28 collapse

"It wasn’t in self driving mode at the time of the accident."

  • Tesla legal team, probably
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world on 22 May 2024 06:03 collapse

Probably technically true. He had to steer it away from the train.

Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 May 2024 01:12 next collapse

It’s what happens when the driver swerves into the crossing arm pole to not hit the train in front of it.

wander1236@sh.itjust.works on 22 May 2024 02:21 collapse

That might explain why the title says “nearly”

Nom@lemm.ee on 22 May 2024 00:48 next collapse

Source article I think

friend_of_satan@lemmy.world on 22 May 2024 01:55 next collapse

What new concerns? All I see are preexisting concerns.

Arfman@aussie.zone on 22 May 2024 02:00 next collapse

You’d think the driver would have start hitting the brakes seeing how fast it was going towards the gates

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 22 May 2024 03:27 next collapse

Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train. driving inattentively.

Teppichbrand@feddit.de on 22 May 2024 05:21 next collapse

I don’t get it. There is a new technology, self-driving electric vehicles, it’s evolving and it’s not perfect (yet). You don’t have to buy this technology, you don’t have to engage in any way, just look at something else and let it mature. Yet I get headline after headline celebrating small failures. This is like an anti-fandom. Why?!

KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world on 22 May 2024 05:30 next collapse

you don’t have to engage in any way

As a cyclist, I am forced to engage with Tesla’s self driving mode, cause I share the road with them and it sucks at dealing with cyclists.

TauriWarrior@aussie.zone on 22 May 2024 12:39 collapse

Only from the POV of the cyclists, not from the POV of Tesla

Zagorath@aussie.zone on 22 May 2024 05:43 next collapse

Every other user on the road is forced to engage with it, including vulnerable users like cyclists and pedestrians. They didn’t agree to it. They weren’t asked if they’re okay with it.

And Tesla in particular, more than other self-driving ventures, has been incredibly reckless in what features they roll out and how easy they make it for their drivers to be unsafe while using it.

delProfundo@aus.social on 22 May 2024 07:03 next collapse

@Teppichbrand @rosschie just like radium. A technology those who don’t understand technology thinks is ready but isn’t. So yes let’s just let these people use us as Guinea pigs. People will die. Do you find people dying to let Elon get a few more bucks an ok thing? Personally as someone who has built technology my whole life I’d like it fully baked before it’s put around peoples children.

Teppichbrand@feddit.de on 22 May 2024 14:01 collapse

Don’t get me wrong, I hate cars. But people are already dying from them, because humans make mistakes and drive reclesly. Don’t you think traffic with 100% self-driving cars would be safer because AI is more careful? New technology has got to start start somewhere. Feels a little “not in my backyard” to me. Yes cyclists are unsafe, but not because of Teslas self-driving EVs.

delProfundo@aus.social on 22 May 2024 07:04 collapse

@Teppichbrand @rosschie sorry but I just noticed ur a zero follower following zero people account and this is your first post. This feels suspicious

Zagorath@aussie.zone on 22 May 2024 07:27 next collapse

Are you experiencing federation problems? Whatever criticism teppichbrand may deserve for their bad opinions, this is far from their first post. The first page of 20 comments takes them back 2 weeks, making them a fairly moderate user of Lemmy.

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Moonrise2473@feddit.it on 22 May 2024 06:47 next collapse

I was ready to write shit on Tesla then I saw the video. The asshole was driving at that speed in the fog??? And let some alpha proof of concept software that relies only on cameras to let drive in the fog???

If the human eye doesn’t see the train crossing, how a camera can see it?

Although a bit of fault to Tesla, because the system should have known from the maps that over there was a train crossing and should have slowed down anyway

Zagorath@aussie.zone on 22 May 2024 08:22 next collapse

And let some alpha proof of concept software that relies only on cameras

That “alpha proof of concept software” is marketed as “full self-driving”. If it doesn’t mean what it says it means, the company producing it should be fully liable for any crashes caused as a result of its use.

Full Self-Driving. Not “kinda sometimes in perfect conditions”. Full.

Moonrise2473@feddit.it on 22 May 2024 08:55 collapse

True, it should also refuse to activate in low visibility situation

milan@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 May 2024 11:12 next collapse

looks like the camera has seen those blinky lights tho, at least i did from the footage. so maybe the driver could have acted quite a bit sooner too. a shame lidar was too good for tesla tho

friend_of_satan@lemmy.world on 22 May 2024 12:52 collapse

If the human eye doesn’t see the train crossing, how a camera can see it?

If Elon Musk wasn’t so anti-lidar then that would be the answer, but here we are.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 22 May 2024 22:47 collapse

Funny part is they used to have radar, but they removed it.

deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 May 2024 08:57 collapse

Driver decides to use Automatic Cruise Control in Foggy Conditions, basically Blames car and manufacturer