TikTok will completely shut down app in US on Sunday as ban looms (nypost.com)
from geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.ml on 15 Jan 20:41
https://lemmy.ml/post/24828063

TikTok is reportedly planning a total shutdown of the Chinese-owned video-sharing app when the law requiring a ban or sale of the app takes effect on Sunday.

The roughly 170 million US users who try to access the app will be greeted with a pop-up message directing them to a website with details about the ban, according to the Information.

Users will also be given the option of downloading their data from the app, sources familiar with the plan told the outlet.

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thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jan 21:31 next collapse

Good we should be more invested in better apps like redNOTE.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 15 Jan 21:39 next collapse

I think it's even better to not use these kind of 'social media' apps.

davel@lemmy.ml on 15 Jan 21:45 collapse

RedNote is just another corporate social media platform, so I won’t gush over it. But it is exposing Burgerstanis to regular people in China, which is a positive. I have no idea how the RedNote’s owners are going to respond to this. For instance, how are they going to monetize an American audience? Or at least recoup the costs? I doubt they had a plan for this, because I don’t think anyone could have predicted it.

The US government will likely censor this app as well. I think this falls under the same law that TikTok does.

small44@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 22:00 next collapse

It’s like trying to stop piracy. No matter how many app the government try to ban, new ones will appear

COASTER1921@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 00:45 collapse

There does come a point where the inconvenience slowly moves the masses to other platforms. It’s not that difficult to access the full internet in China with any data-only esim being unrestricted by default and many VPNs working just fine. But it’s just difficult enough to do this that the masses don’t. Piracy functions the same way, if piracy were truly broad in scale then it would be taken much more seriously.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jan 23:49 collapse

I wouldn’t be surprised if China locked out US users before the US even banned it. Chinese are already telling US users that they are saying things that DEFINITELY should not be said on the app.

Here’s a little Nostradamus… “I had the most best chat with Xi. He told me that Americans are superior to the Chinese, so they don’t want to see us on RedNote anymore. But don’t worry, I told you I would save Tiktok… introducing Trump Talk”

davel@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 00:09 collapse

A torrent of Western chauvinist trolls does seem inevitable, if my experience as an Lemmy mod is any indication.

comfy@lemmy.ml on 17 Jan 00:46 collapse

Personally, I suspect the bigger problem for their platform will be handling the contrasting values of Western social media norms against their own.

Even sinophobic reactionaries have been pointing out for years that “[Douyin] Chinese TikTok is Wholesome, American TikTok is Corrupting our Youths!” with product influencers/grifters, rampant sexualization up to and including pornography, etc., albeit the reactionaries are interpreting the difference from a conspiratorial moral-panic viewpoint claiming it’s weaponization by The Chinese Government to corrode Western society, rather than the difference being that the US TikTok is social media with liberalist freedoms combined with the capitalist pursuit of profit above society, and is in line with the content on Xitter, reddit and other familiar social media.

The point being, that people rise to the top of TikTok through sexual suggestion, flashing symbols of wealth and other normalized habits which I’ve heard are banned on Lil’RedBook (which sounds like a great decision!).

davel@lemmy.ml on 15 Jan 21:32 next collapse

Are American iPhone users going to rediscover web browsing? www.tiktok.com/explore

Are American Android users going to discover sideloading? lifehacker.com/…/how-to-use-tiktok-if-its-banned-…

atocci@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 21:53 next collapse

A “complete shutdown” as the article describes it makes it sound like neither of those two things will help.

Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Jan 00:09 collapse

Very Possibly No workaround

nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz on 16 Jan 00:38 next collapse

Clever

dragonfucker@lemmy.nz on 16 Jan 01:47 next collapse

Viral Film Displayer

KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Jan 07:27 next collapse

VPN

menemen@lemmy.ml on 17 Jan 07:51 collapse

VPN?

SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml on 17 Jan 10:37 collapse

VPNw

It’s a little known FOSS project, it piggybacks on TOR network and several other VPNs. The “W” stands for wank, as unfortunately VPNw only allows porn through to the user’s device, if a non-smut site is accessed VPNw injects millisecond flashes of tiddies n cacks full screen every 45 seconds. Highly recommended, can’t ever be too safe out there on the digital seas…

menemen@lemmy.ml on 17 Jan 15:32 collapse

Ok. Thx.

SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml on 17 Jan 18:00 collapse

👍 any time bud

[deleted] on 15 Jan 22:21 collapse

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melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 15 Jan 21:39 next collapse

But what do all these TikTok users need to do suddenly? Talk to each other face to face? Doing something useful in live? Help?

then_three_more@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 21:46 next collapse

Na, Instagram and YouTube have short form videos now.

dessalines@lemmy.ml on 15 Jan 22:09 next collapse

You are typing on a computer / phone right now on another social media platform, probably not the time to feel superior.

BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 22:13 next collapse

Social media’s quality and harm lie on a spectrum, it’s not just black and white. Text discussion on a forum is way different from the average TikTok experience.

dessalines@lemmy.ml on 15 Jan 22:18 next collapse

I agree, but the OP referenced none of that.

BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world on 16 Jan 13:08 collapse

What is the point of this reply

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 15 Jan 22:25 collapse

Books are ruining the youth - 1700s

ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org on 15 Jan 23:30 next collapse

it's that damn opera.

BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world on 16 Jan 13:07 collapse

Algorithm driven social media is different, it just is. There’s a boy who cried wolf element here which is unfortunate, but that doesn’t mean wolves don’t exist.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 16 Jan 00:06 collapse

But the fediverse is better right ;)? They can't even ban it haha

coacoamelky@lemm.ee on 15 Jan 22:11 next collapse

Youre on lemmy, specifically a small community within a small community. Can’t you see the irony?

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 16 Jan 00:08 collapse

I did forget to add /s

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 15 Jan 22:37 next collapse

There goes my plan to sell jailbroken iPhones to zoomers.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jan 22:41 collapse

Could you not access with a VPN?

Coreidan@lemmy.world on 16 Jan 04:52 collapse

Access what? There is nothing to access.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 22:46 next collapse

Users will also be given the option of downloading their data from the app, sources familiar with the plan told the outlet.

That’s nice of them. I bet Facebook and Twitter wouldn’t do that.

gerbler@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 22:53 next collapse

Pretty sure they’re both required to do that by law. I’ve downloaded all my Facebook data a few times

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 22:58 collapse

True, but I doubt they’d put the effort into making it easy for someone to download it in the message.

BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Jan 23:37 collapse

I don’t know about twitter, but its very easy to download all of your data from Facebook. I did it yesterday in preparation for closing my account. Account->Settings&Privacy->Your Information->Download Your Information.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 23:50 collapse

That is a bit harder than “click here to download” on the front page.

BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org on 17 Jan 07:40 collapse

You are the best kind of correct.

lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml on 16 Jan 00:14 next collapse

Amazing the citizens there will allow this. Land of the free lol

circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org on 16 Jan 00:25 next collapse

Kind of funny that this kicks in the day before an inauguration.

COASTER1921@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 00:40 next collapse

Conveniently just in time for Trump to blame it on the Democrats even though he started the process during his previous term.

krolden@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 05:11 collapse

It passes with bipartisan support

Zagorath@aussie.zone on 16 Jan 06:51 collapse

Not funny, a deliberate decision by the legislature in order to safeguard it from whoever was going to win the election (since it was set before the election).

rob200@endlesstalk.org on 16 Jan 02:28 next collapse

“They” say they are banning it over national security concerns I think it’s deeper then that. They can’t have a socialist like platform having an audience. Which in my opinion is why they wanted to force a sell or just ban Tiktok.

I don’t think, that they will go after Rednote if it doesn’t gain popularity the way that Tiktok did.

bl4kers@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 07:09 next collapse

socialist like platform having an audience. Which in my opinion is why they wanted to force a sell or just ban Tiktok.

This logic doesn’t follow. What does forcing a sale have to do with being “socialist like” ? TikTok has been diluted into a sales platform anyway.

rob200@endlesstalk.org on 16 Jan 14:44 collapse

If they sell the platform to an American company, it wouldn’t be Chinese owned. and CHina is (currently) a socialist leaning country, once sold to an American company, it’s gonna be more capitalist focused then it already was. idk why people miss that.

Tangentism@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 18:21 collapse

ByteDance is a privately-held global company, roughly 60 percent owned by global institutional investors (such as Blackrock, General Atlantic, and Susquehanna International Group), 20 percent owned by the company’s founders, and 20 percent owned by its employees—including over 7,000 U.S.-based employees.

Sauce

[deleted] on 16 Jan 19:29 next collapse

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davel@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 21:42 collapse

This is the funniest thing about it all. ByteDance is mostly an American company with American & Singaporean executives, and the service is run on Oracle cloud services within the United States.

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 16 Jan 17:15 collapse

Socialist? Lol wut

DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone on 16 Jan 02:42 next collapse

Maybe I should get on tiktok. A social media app with Americans sounds wonderful

Xer0@lemmy.ml on 16 Jan 15:33 next collapse

If you were meant to say “without”, I 100% agree.

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 16 Jan 17:14 collapse

without*?

Also I think this only affects one country in America?

DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone on 16 Jan 19:44 collapse

Yes, my bad. Without.

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 16 Jan 17:13 next collapse

What exactly does that mean? I dont use tiktok, but I imagine it will still work if I already have it installed? Or is this a geoip restriction that doesn’t affect Tor users? Or is it just not in the app stores?

CCMan1701A@startrek.website on 19 Jan 04:18 collapse

Since it’s not active, it looks to just be geo based as changing my VPN location makes it work… This was my first time visiting the website and it was showing someone opening an egg he boiled for 2 hours… 💀

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 16 Jan 17:16 collapse

Can we ban nypost please?