NegativeInf@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 2024 08:21
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Why, of course they are!
Same as Sprint! And then when the deal is complete and all the promises made and contracts signed, they will start firing the highest paid/longest tenured employees at T-Mobile for cost savings while jacking up prices with new plans with the same features every 6 to 8 months and promotional phone pricing only for those new plans.
I should know. I was a store manager for 5 years. Before and after sprint merger.
T-Mobile was always a shit company with a bombastically marketed CEO that was all Packing Cracking et al. Reduce and replace is a scam. They lie and say they don’t have the device if you don’t buy accessories in store.
Wanna know how to get the phone?
Start picking out your accessories, have them grab your phone from the back, once they start the phone sale process, say you have changed your mind on your accessories. If they then say you can’t buy it, call the corporate 611 number and ask for a bill credit for deceptive practices and report the store. Then go and report to the FCC for bill stuffing.
Never use a third party store. They are even griftier.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 2024 08:59
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As a US Cellular customer I don’t like the sound of this at all. I have been a customer with US for over ten years and they treat me well even allow to extending your bill when needed. T mobile were assholes that if you didn’t pay day it was due you phone was shut off no expectations.
Fuck T mobile got rid of them when back in 2011 they tried to send me a 1000 dollar bill and this was before high dollar smartphones. Didn’t have any. When I challenged the bill they assisted thar owed that for two filp phones. I said pound sand and disputed and won when they tried to ding my credit later.
Now I am getting fucked because they are trying buy out my carrier.
I used to work at a third party store that worked on a different model and was pretty incredible.
The owner took all the commissions and paid everyone a straight (decent) salary. This caused a number of changes in how the place was run.
Better customer service. It didn’t matter to us if you were coming in to buy a phone or for a problem with your bill. I’ll happily spend two hours on the phone with the company trying to fix your bill without selling you a thing.
We had strict standards for process, and our paperwork would be reviewed by someone who did entirely executive stuff. Our stuff always had 'I’s dotted and 'T’s crossed. What I learned from this is that the company was regularly and routinely trying to scam agents. Every month we’d have to reconcile payments with the company and there would always be discrepancies.
Interestingly, we’d have you sign a separate contract with us instead of the company. If you cancelled service within six months (the charge back period), we would fine you up to $400 and require return of the equipment. This would cover any legitimate charge backs. We had a lawyer on retainer and would regularly sue people for breaching this contract and not paying the fine.
We kept a stock of loaner phones. If you broke your phone and couldn’t immediately replace it for whatever reason, we’d loan you a phone for a few days.
Our customers were loyal, and we had a special relationship with the company.
This was back when the companies were paying agents well. Over time, the company got more and more greedy, and squeezed any decent business model out of the market. The execs who knew our situation loved it because we beat the hell out of any other places for customer service, and we had several large contracts with local companies.
Of course these execs who knew us were slowly replaced MBA penny pinchers who didn’t know and didn’t care about our unique circumstance.
One of the earliest squeezes was that the company confiscated accounts that had more than a hundred lines. Those would be now run by the company’s B2B department instead of the agent(s) who landed the contract.
Oh, and another interesting tidbit. We’d often waive paperwork fees for one reason or another. We got a corporate email that said our competitor had higher fees and didn’t waive them. So you can guess what we did. Raise the fees and stop waiving them. This is how competition works in the real world. Why would anyone go the other way?
I don’t think our stores exist anymore, but they were pretty great while they lasted.
EleventhHour@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 2024 09:57
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K, bye
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Oct 2024 11:36
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Neat 📸
But seriously, US Cellular, why in the ever loving fuck should we, the public, or any court, give even the tiniest of shits? Maybe that’s just capitalism capitalism-ing. Maybe this is by design. Maybe this is good and proper. Maybe your business wasn’t good enough to survive.
roofuskit@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 2024 12:31
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We should be really invested in helping US Cellular. We just shouldn’t help them in the way they want. We should help them by breaking up the mega corps that are their competitors. And this time we shouldn’t allow them to all merge back into mega corps.
I had a better experience with T-Mobile back in their un-carrier days. Once they dropped that facade and started matching the other two I noticed a dramatic shift in pricing and support.
I don’t know when the merger rules with Sprint expired, but I would guess it was probably around the same time.
obre@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 2024 15:18
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JWBananas@lemmy.world
on 08 Oct 2024 23:06
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That’s not why they’re selling.
Congress let the FCC spectrum auction/allocation authority expire in 2023. So the FCC is unable to allocate new spectrum licenses to carriers. Even the spectrum that was already auctioned has been in limbo.
That makes transfer/sale of existing licenses the only path to acquisition, which significantly raises the prospective value of those assets.
T-Mobile doesn’t want their customers or their infrastructure. They want the spectrum. And because Congress is sitting on their hands, US Cellular is able to demand a higher premium now than they likely ever would again.
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Why, of course they are!
Same as Sprint! And then when the deal is complete and all the promises made and contracts signed, they will start firing the highest paid/longest tenured employees at T-Mobile for cost savings while jacking up prices with new plans with the same features every 6 to 8 months and promotional phone pricing only for those new plans.
I should know. I was a store manager for 5 years. Before and after sprint merger.
T-Mobile was always a shit company with a bombastically marketed CEO that was all Packing Cracking et al. Reduce and replace is a scam. They lie and say they don’t have the device if you don’t buy accessories in store.
Wanna know how to get the phone?
Start picking out your accessories, have them grab your phone from the back, once they start the phone sale process, say you have changed your mind on your accessories. If they then say you can’t buy it, call the corporate 611 number and ask for a bill credit for deceptive practices and report the store. Then go and report to the FCC for bill stuffing.
Never use a third party store. They are even griftier.
As a US Cellular customer I don’t like the sound of this at all. I have been a customer with US for over ten years and they treat me well even allow to extending your bill when needed. T mobile were assholes that if you didn’t pay day it was due you phone was shut off no expectations.
Fuck T mobile got rid of them when back in 2011 they tried to send me a 1000 dollar bill and this was before high dollar smartphones. Didn’t have any. When I challenged the bill they assisted thar owed that for two filp phones. I said pound sand and disputed and won when they tried to ding my credit later. Now I am getting fucked because they are trying buy out my carrier.
I used to work at a third party store that worked on a different model and was pretty incredible.
The owner took all the commissions and paid everyone a straight (decent) salary. This caused a number of changes in how the place was run.
Better customer service. It didn’t matter to us if you were coming in to buy a phone or for a problem with your bill. I’ll happily spend two hours on the phone with the company trying to fix your bill without selling you a thing.
We had strict standards for process, and our paperwork would be reviewed by someone who did entirely executive stuff. Our stuff always had 'I’s dotted and 'T’s crossed. What I learned from this is that the company was regularly and routinely trying to scam agents. Every month we’d have to reconcile payments with the company and there would always be discrepancies.
Interestingly, we’d have you sign a separate contract with us instead of the company. If you cancelled service within six months (the charge back period), we would fine you up to $400 and require return of the equipment. This would cover any legitimate charge backs. We had a lawyer on retainer and would regularly sue people for breaching this contract and not paying the fine.
We kept a stock of loaner phones. If you broke your phone and couldn’t immediately replace it for whatever reason, we’d loan you a phone for a few days.
Our customers were loyal, and we had a special relationship with the company.
This was back when the companies were paying agents well. Over time, the company got more and more greedy, and squeezed any decent business model out of the market. The execs who knew our situation loved it because we beat the hell out of any other places for customer service, and we had several large contracts with local companies.
Of course these execs who knew us were slowly replaced MBA penny pinchers who didn’t know and didn’t care about our unique circumstance.
One of the earliest squeezes was that the company confiscated accounts that had more than a hundred lines. Those would be now run by the company’s B2B department instead of the agent(s) who landed the contract.
Oh, and another interesting tidbit. We’d often waive paperwork fees for one reason or another. We got a corporate email that said our competitor had higher fees and didn’t waive them. So you can guess what we did. Raise the fees and stop waiving them. This is how competition works in the real world. Why would anyone go the other way?
I don’t think our stores exist anymore, but they were pretty great while they lasted.
K, bye
Neat 📸
But seriously, US Cellular, why in the ever loving fuck should we, the public, or any court, give even the tiniest of shits? Maybe that’s just capitalism capitalism-ing. Maybe this is by design. Maybe this is good and proper. Maybe your business wasn’t good enough to survive.
We should be really invested in helping US Cellular. We just shouldn’t help them in the way they want. We should help them by breaking up the mega corps that are their competitors. And this time we shouldn’t allow them to all merge back into mega corps.
Because they want to merge with another company and need regulator approval.
Should be with a smaller company, not a giant.
to be fair, it’s t-mobile so it’s probably doomed with the t-mobile acquisition too
Oh no! Won’t someone think of the shareholders?!
By Felicia.
The solution is to break up the other three, not to sell this one to big three...
These arguments only make sense to people who make money off this grift tbh
I honestly have had a better experience overall with T-Mobile than with Verizon or AT&T.
That said, having three huge telecoms dominating the wireless communications industry is not a good thing.
Hell, two of those dinosaurs are direct descendents of the same company that monopolized the US telecom industry for decades.
I had a better experience with T-Mobile back in their un-carrier days. Once they dropped that facade and started matching the other two I noticed a dramatic shift in pricing and support.
I don’t know when the merger rules with Sprint expired, but I would guess it was probably around the same time.
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That’s not why they’re selling.
Congress let the FCC spectrum auction/allocation authority expire in 2023. So the FCC is unable to allocate new spectrum licenses to carriers. Even the spectrum that was already auctioned has been in limbo.
broadbandbreakfast.com/wireless-providers-others-…
That makes transfer/sale of existing licenses the only path to acquisition, which significantly raises the prospective value of those assets.
T-Mobile doesn’t want their customers or their infrastructure. They want the spectrum. And because Congress is sitting on their hands, US Cellular is able to demand a higher premium now than they likely ever would again.