Brkdncr@lemmy.world
on 20 Aug 2024 15:16
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Warranty replacement.
FaceDeer@fedia.io
on 20 Aug 2024 18:24
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As I understand it the corrosion is provoked by the chip's operation, the patch reduces the voltage load which makes the corrosion less likely to happen or to advance less quickly.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 20 Aug 2024 18:25
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You can’t fix damage that has already happened, but you can stop more damage by limiting voltage as I understand it.
datelmd5sum@lemmy.world
on 21 Aug 2024 02:02
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but how can the chips reach the advertised performance while being undervolted? especially damaged chips.
floofloof@lemmy.ca
on 21 Aug 2024 03:20
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I would expect this patch to come with a negative performance impact.
raldone01@lemmy.world
on 21 Aug 2024 07:38
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It’s like spectre and meltdown you also lost the advertised performance. Less performance is better than a gaping security hole or a broken chip.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 21 Aug 2024 21:45
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They can’t.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 20 Aug 2024 15:07
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And here I thought, it would be good to go for Intel. Recently got a new PC with 14600KF. However, I have not had any issues with performance besides Deathloop (Launches, black screen and then dissapears).
EDIT: So I guess, I’m forced to wait until my motherboard developer/ company (MSI) announces that their users can update their BIOS manually? I’m curious whether, I’m actually affected by this or not. Though I guess, never gonna go Intel again. Next new PC will be having AMD (unless AMD makes such a mess as well, then it does not matter).
Gsus4@programming.dev
on 20 Aug 2024 15:37
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BombOmOm@lemmy.world
on 20 Aug 2024 16:07
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Unfortunately, this problem is larger than a micro-code update. The main issue the user is likely referring to is Intel shipping defective product (oxidation issues), denying warranty claims for said defective product, then staying quiet when it’s proven they have been shipping defective product. Intel could have owned up to the issue and proactively recalled defective units, but, they didn’t do the honorable thing, not even close.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 20 Aug 2024 18:06
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That AMD security vulnerability doesn’t physically damage the CPU while this Intel flaw does. Thats a drastic difference so the two are not the same
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 20 Aug 2024 18:24
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So far the AMD security flaws aren’t causing physical CPU damage, so Intel definitely wins the screw up award.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works
on 20 Aug 2024 23:20
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That exploit required kernel access to begin with, which at that point, you have much bigger problems.
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I thought they had corrosion issues, how do you patch that?
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Warranty replacement.
As I understand it the corrosion is provoked by the chip's operation, the patch reduces the voltage load which makes the corrosion less likely to happen or to advance less quickly.
You can’t fix damage that has already happened, but you can stop more damage by limiting voltage as I understand it.
but how can the chips reach the advertised performance while being undervolted? especially damaged chips.
I would expect this patch to come with a negative performance impact.
It’s like spectre and meltdown you also lost the advertised performance. Less performance is better than a gaping security hole or a broken chip.
They can’t.
And here I thought, it would be good to go for Intel. Recently got a new PC with 14600KF. However, I have not had any issues with performance besides Deathloop (Launches, black screen and then dissapears).
EDIT: So I guess, I’m forced to wait until my motherboard developer/ company (MSI) announces that their users can update their BIOS manually? I’m curious whether, I’m actually affected by this or not. Though I guess, never gonna go Intel again. Next new PC will be having AMD (unless AMD makes such a mess as well, then it does not matter).
e.g. yahoo.com/…/ryzen-3000-fix-sinkclose-vulnerabilit… AMD has these sorts of flaws too, I don’t know enough to tell if AMD is significantly better at this when deciding to buy
Unfortunately, this problem is larger than a micro-code update. The main issue the user is likely referring to is Intel shipping defective product (oxidation issues), denying warranty claims for said defective product, then staying quiet when it’s proven they have been shipping defective product. Intel could have owned up to the issue and proactively recalled defective units, but, they didn’t do the honorable thing, not even close.
That AMD security vulnerability doesn’t physically damage the CPU while this Intel flaw does. Thats a drastic difference so the two are not the same
So far the AMD security flaws aren’t causing physical CPU damage, so Intel definitely wins the screw up award.
That exploit required kernel access to begin with, which at that point, you have much bigger problems.