Robotaxi Drives Double the Speed Limit, Hits Speed Bumps at Full Speed… Tesla Influencers Describe It as “Excellent.” (fuelarc.com)
from KayLeadfoot@fedia.io to technology@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 22:19
https://fedia.io/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/2344765

Come for the video of a Tesla Robotaxi driving double the speed limit and hitting speed bumps like they are Mario Kart ramps...

... But stay for the conversation about social media silos and corporate disinformation campaigns!

#autonomy #fsd #robotaxi #technology #tesla

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TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 23:04 next collapse

Looking forward to the headlines: “Tesla Robotaxi passengers need medical attention after Robotaxi hits speed bump at 70mph”

KayLeadfoot@fedia.io on 24 Jun 23:09 next collapse

Guy in a Dogecoin t-shirt and a neckbrace: "i-i-it was r-r-really great."

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 01:07 next collapse

We live in the dumbest timeline.

ramenshaman@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 02:40 collapse

I read that in RFK Jr.'s voice

echodot@feddit.uk on 25 Jun 04:17 collapse

Is he the one that sounds like he smokes 30 packs a day?

ramenshaman@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 04:50 collapse

Yeah but he has a disease that makes him sound like that. If he weren’t such a terrible human being I would feel bad about making fun of him.

echodot@feddit.uk on 25 Jun 07:10 collapse

I don’t think he and Alex Jones sound exactly the same.

ramenshaman@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 07:25 collapse

I don’t think Alex Jones has a disease that affects his voice, I think he just yells about psychic vampires so often that’s just what his voice has turned into.

CosmoNova@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 04:28 next collapse

And these greedy, unscrupulous, technofascist enabling influencers promoted it. This is our current normal apparently.I hate mainstream internet culture with a passion.

krimson@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 06:15 next collapse

The sad thing is these things will probably not be taken of the road until a few dozen people have been run over.

nodiratime@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 20:38 collapse

They won’t be taken off the road. After the first passengers are hit, they will blame “jaywalkers” and suggest some kind of tracking tech we have to wear.

KayLeadfoot@fedia.io on 25 Jun 21:11 next collapse

Tesla bros: "I heard that jaywalker was a TSLA shortseller."

Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jun 23:42 collapse

Oh, the US government is already proposing that.

madjo@feddit.nl on 25 Jun 20:17 next collapse

That language is too active. It’s more like “robot taxi passenger needs medical attention”. “During the ride with a robot taxi a passenger became unwell. It’s unclear at this point what caused the passenger to become dizzy and get a head wound. Tesla’s CEO Elon Musk told this reporter that there was no problem at all and that the passenger arrived faster at their destination than initially calculated.”

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 26 Jun 05:01 next collapse

it was going at full speed while applying the brakes.

anomnom@sh.itjust.works on 26 Jun 12:24 collapse

On the plus side these cars aren’t going to last long driving like this. They’re heavy too so speed plumps affect them even more harshly.

SalamenceFury@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 02:20 next collapse

I just read on the article about how all the “tesla influencers” are refusing to comment on news media and instead insisting they only talk about it on Twitter.

Couldn’t be more manufactured consent if they tried.

KayLeadfoot@fedia.io on 25 Jun 03:13 collapse

That part really pissed me off.

I think folks see it for what it is. Sales are cratering, public spaces that are not twitter are increasingly intolerant of the Tesla fanboys glazing the supposed tech advantage ( that we can see with our own eyes is not real )

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 26 Jun 00:54 collapse

Or they’re completely manufactured accounts.

KayLeadfoot@fedia.io on 26 Jun 02:17 collapse

Not mutually exclusive. Why not both?

Canigou@jlai.lu on 25 Jun 08:14 next collapse

The source is a fake website with the only articles being about criticizing Tesla. I am not a fan of Tesla or Musk, to say the least, but this is no better than X’s propaganda…

victorz@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 15:04 next collapse

Pretty bold claim. Who can we trust in this scenario? How do we trust you?

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 25 Jun 15:34 next collapse

Well you can check the site yourself, that ain’t too hard to do

victorz@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 16:54 collapse

I did, and now I did again. I don’t see/understand any clues to it being a “fake website” after browsing around and looking at various pages and articles. 🤷‍♂️ Can somebody help me understand? (Besides the condescending “just look at it”, thanks!)

flightyhobler@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 17:47 collapse

We don’t.

lemmy.world/comment/17881040

victorz@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 18:05 collapse

Oh shit 😆👍 Thanks for the clarity. I knew my gut feeling was tingling in the right frequency in this case.

KayLeadfoot@fedia.io on 25 Jun 16:52 next collapse

Edit: Aren't you a mod on the SpaceX board? I'm not sure I trust you when you say you're "not a fan of Tesla or Musk" considering you run a fan club for one of Musk's companies XD

I'm the automotive equivalent of a muckraker, so yeah, Tesla does enough weird stuff that I talk about them a lot. They're hardly the ONLY news I cover.

Take this article, for instance, it was on the front page of Hacker News for a couple days, got decent circulation in European automotive magazines, too: https://fuelarc.com/tech/pop-up-ads-in-your-jeep-the-latest-stellantis-innovation/

Believe what you like, but the videos in that article are just videos, it's not like those aren't first-hand driving footage just because you dislike where you found them.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jun 17:20 next collapse

I know you don’t live here so you can just be relaxed and ummm acckktually from behind your keyboard. But please understand that real humans live on the streets that this dangerous machine is careening through, and it’s only a matter of time before it kills someone. Intentional acts of violence must be stopped immediately, and they don’t need a devil’s advocate. Please watch any of the footage from the last 3 days of operation, it’s very straightforward and clear to any observer just how fucked up and dangerous these machines are.

SaltySalamander@fedia.io on 25 Jun 22:42 next collapse
skozzii@lemmy.ca on 26 Jun 00:10 collapse

That was a pretty real video of it going twice the speed limit and trying to launch them to space over the speed bumps… what’s YOUR agenda?

mintiefresh@piefed.ca on 25 Jun 18:14 next collapse

Oh man it was just blasting through those speed bumps lmao.

"nice"

socsa@piefed.social on 25 Jun 22:10 next collapse

Man, this makes me wonder if maybe robotaxis might finally be the thing that gets people to take road safety enforcement seriously. Like imagine if Tesla advertises that their taxis will break speed limits because rare speeding fines are trivial to their business. Would this make people actually support speed cameras or hefty speed enforcement fines?

skozzii@lemmy.ca on 26 Jun 00:09 next collapse

These things are gonna kill so many people…

monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world on 26 Jun 01:53 collapse
Atropos@lemmy.world on 26 Jun 00:29 next collapse

Delamain this ain’t

fogetaboutit@programming.dev on 26 Jun 05:23 collapse

is tesla == arasaka? But maybe not, because arasaka is actually competent

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 26 Jun 00:52 next collapse

The true believers should volunteer to show off the Tesla’s obstacle detection by standing in front of them.

Empricorn@feddit.nl on 26 Jun 01:59 next collapse

What a moment for Musk to show true leadership.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 26 Jun 13:41 collapse

He would sooner put his own son in the path. He has backups for a reason.

goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Jun 02:35 next collapse

Only time until they do. Just like the ones that broke or crushed their fingers with the Cybertruck

rayyy@lemmy.world on 26 Jun 11:03 collapse

In reality it will be some mom with a van full of kids in front of them.

Ronno@feddit.nl on 26 Jun 05:51 collapse

Not surprising to anyone that ever driven a Tesla, or other brand car really. The speed sign detection only works about 90% of the time, which is fine if you are in control, but for self driving? Had the same with BMW, Mercedes, Renault, Honda. None of the cars I’ve driven over the past years were close to 100% correct with reading signage.

KayLeadfoot@fedia.io on 26 Jun 05:56 next collapse

I've noticed that, too.

The speed signage is nice when the car picks it up, but I'd call mine 80% accurate. Imperfect, but fine for a driver assist, I know not to rely on it.

Crazy move to put it in a 99.9999%-accuracy-required design.

MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world on 26 Jun 11:55 collapse

Google maps knows the speed limit of most roads, why can’t that be used?

Schmuppes@lemmy.today on 26 Jun 14:32 next collapse

Because the “Google thought so” approach is legally problematic.

MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 15:20 collapse

Ah, that makes sense.

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 27 Jun 16:06 collapse

Not super reliable, one road near me is 25mph and google says it’s 65mph.

MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 16:24 collapse

Oh, well that answered that question. Get your shit together tech bros

Scrollone@feddit.it on 26 Jun 07:16 next collapse

Yeah, it’s so horrible especially when it reads a speed limit from an adjacent road or, even worse, from a label on the back of a truck

fodor@lemmy.zip on 26 Jun 10:24 collapse

Wait a second. Are you saying we can hack them? This is wonderful.

Ronno@feddit.nl on 26 Jun 11:14 collapse

It’s not at all difficult to do really. Just steal one 30 kph sign and place it on the highway and let carnage ensue.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 26 Jun 11:49 collapse

Seems like it would be jail time if you get caught. Or serious prison time if it causes a fatal accident.

Ronno@feddit.nl on 27 Jun 05:38 collapse

Well yeah obviously

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 26 Jun 11:54 collapse

It’s almost as if we need a nationwide GPS driven speed limit detection system, rather than relying on some crappy cameras.

That way manual drivers can be warned if they’re exceeding the limit as well.

Ronno@feddit.nl on 27 Jun 05:38 collapse

Even nationwide GPS speed detection isn’t flawless. What if an accident happens or for road works, then a temporary speed reduction can be applied. The autonomous driving system must be able to detect those situations and handle them gracefully. But also coming out of that temporary speed restricted zone. What if the car doesn’t detect the end of the zone? Then the autonomous vehicle can drive dangerously slow until the next sign.

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 27 Jun 09:21 collapse

You could certainly have both systems in place, with it always picking the lowest.

But you do want to avoid daft things, like seeing a parked lorry with “I’m speed to limited to 50” written on it, with the 50 in a red circle, and the car goes “50? Brilliant!” and zooms off past a school.