Yeah, the fundamental issue here too, ultimately, condenses down to tolerance and acceptance. Of other faiths, of other customs, of foreign ways to present or identify, of anything your faith or culture might not allow or actively do.
Just being able to accept or at the very least tolerate others, as they are, without trying to turn them, or, kill them if they won’t turn…
I can’t figure out why this is so hard for us humans, the majority of us at least, when it seems so… easy? Unless the difference is offensive to you, which, again, is just intolerance of difference. Just let them be and be your best self yourself. I can understand having a few words to try and sway them to be saved according to your faith or whatever, but failing that, just live your best life and I don’t know… maybe pray for them on your own or something if you’re truly worried about their soul or something. But dont go bothering them with that shit if they aren’t receptive. It seems so simple?
But the reason is Western Colonization. The Middle East was one of the most progressive places in the world. Islam is still the most tolerant religion. Things like homophobia and antisemitism are injected by the west.
The west IS the ROOT CAUSE of all evil in the world. I refuse to accept otherwise. Fuck the west, fuck USA and Europe. And you are a complete unaware about history if you think the Middle East is the birthplace. It’s the west and their so called mora superiority. If the world is freed of Christian cancer it would be a peaceful place immediately.
Great discourse, you sure have shown that you have a complete understanding of what you’re saying with that comment.
How are you going to blame the west when Islam and Middle Eastern religions have been around FAR longer than any country in the west has existed. They’ve always had extreme positions and practices in comparison to what we deem socially acceptable now.
You lack basic knowledge of history. Islam is at least 400 years younger than christofascism. Have you studied any of the religious books? Women in Islam have more rights than they ever had in the West up until 100 years ago.
Islam and Middle Eastern religions have been around FAR longer than any country in the west has existed.
I want to say no, because there are sheds in Scotland (~100 BC) older than Islam (~600 AD), and 600 AD in Europe we had shitton of Kingdoms etc, but maybe I didn’t understand your point? Could you explain what did you mean?
Scotland wasn’t a thing in 600AD 100BC (Misread) even if that shed existed. All I meant was that the religions predate what is now considered western countries. It was to show blaming the western world makes absolutely no sense.
I wonder if you know that both Christianity and Islam are just splinter sects of Judaism? And if you’re against Judaism, or think it’s evil or smthing, you should consider being against its spin-offs.
Evil has no birthplace, it has always existed in all people. Evil was there long before ‘The West’ or ‘Middle East’ were things. Religions don’t cause evil or intolerance, but some religions can be easily used to justify stoning gay people to death, or killing women for daring to be independant. If the bible didn’t command that gay people be murdered, or if Islam didn’t command that apostates be slain, it would be much harder to justify these evil acts. This isn’t a problem of religion, it’s a problem of cultures that take their religion too seriously.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Oct 03:35
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In the Reddit thread about the rejected NSFW updates, Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve’s handling of the situation. “I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn’t feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process,” developer Frenzin writes. “But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on.”
“Valve isn’t the problem here,” Frenzin continues. "The big credit card companies are. If anything, Valve has stood up to them and pushed back. They could’ve simply nuked the 18+ section of Steam, but they didn’t, they stuck up for developers. Obviously adult games make Valve money, but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of Steam’s catalogue. Silksong itself probably earned Valve more than most NSFW titles put together.
“Given that we’re erogame devs, we’re against any sort of censorship (as long as the content isn’t sexualizing minors or nonconsensual in any way),” the developer comments. “But it’s important to understand where the real problem lies, and it’s not with Valve.”
MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip
on 04 Oct 04:23
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Valve, the only corporate that one is supposed to bootlick. And ironically it’s a storefront for closed source software.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
on 04 Oct 04:25
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Yes, the devs who are the actual people affected by this issue, how dare they bootlick!
Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve’s handling of the situation. “I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn’t feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process,” developer Frenzin writes. “But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on.”
you’re blaming the wrong people. nobody is bootlicking.
We dont; we need USA pay processors alternatives, and of those in EU we have plenty (but I don’t know your specific country, so maybe not in your country).
I wouldn’t really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I’m surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern).
Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday… you know, common conveniences
whereyaaat@lemmings.world
on 04 Oct 10:30
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Since the issue is with payment processors, we need to switch to crypto to avoid the censorship and abuse of power from banks.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a complete moron, but they are average so average people won’t see it.
this kind of mentality solves nothing. blaming people who don’t know an alternative or who don’t understand crypto is not going to solve this problem. nor is crypto a perfect solution by any means.
you’re suggesting a band-aid solution and shaking your fist at “normies”. quite ironic.
I honestly don’t understand how to “do” crypto. Here’s my brain’s interpretation and questions. You will probably see why I, and many others, don’t use it or dabble in it:
It’s got to be mined to obtain (power hog and time)
You can buy it but it is traded like stock which may inflate it to be more expensive to obtain
Who really owns or has responsibility over what you purchase when it comes to the cryptocurrency?
Where is it “stored” (locally, on a cloud somewhere)?
What coin type do you choose and how do you know it’s safe?
Do you just make your own coin and use a program that does everything needed to package it as “money”?
How does someone verify that you actually have the money behind the coin(s)?
Customer protections would suuuuuuuck if everyone was running different variations of, what is essentially, a store. Not to mention shovelware would be even more rampant.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
on 04 Oct 12:26
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Uh, I think it’s called the World Wide Web.
I mean, I’m joking, but I do remember buying games directly from a developers website, that’s a thing that used to happen.
backgroundcow@lemmy.world
on 06 Oct 10:06
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Seems like a weekend hack to set up a fediverse-backed categorized market that, when you want to buy something- forwards to a “buy our download” link of the seller’s choice. Rabid moralists would have to challenge each producer/indie developer individually to take things down.
The real crux is to build a nice user interface on top of it so people would actually use it.
Nope. This was a rumor and the article title is misleading. Valve blocked NSFW updates of games that were originally labeled as SFW and then the dev tried to update with NSFW game elements.
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Goddamn Christians (hah) fucking up everyone’s shit.
As is tradition.
I’m done living under their boot heel
The also poisoned all of the Middle East. It used to be so much better before these dumb Christian fascists started to spread their homophobia.
Lol, yeah right…
As if Islam or Judaism wouldn’t be just as bad or worse if it was in the majority in the Western world.
The Middle East, the last bastion of the free world /s.
Religion and forcing it upon others is the real problem here. Regardless of what religion it is.
Yeah, the fundamental issue here too, ultimately, condenses down to tolerance and acceptance. Of other faiths, of other customs, of foreign ways to present or identify, of anything your faith or culture might not allow or actively do.
Just being able to accept or at the very least tolerate others, as they are, without trying to turn them, or, kill them if they won’t turn…
I can’t figure out why this is so hard for us humans, the majority of us at least, when it seems so… easy? Unless the difference is offensive to you, which, again, is just intolerance of difference. Just let them be and be your best self yourself. I can understand having a few words to try and sway them to be saved according to your faith or whatever, but failing that, just live your best life and I don’t know… maybe pray for them on your own or something if you’re truly worried about their soul or something. But dont go bothering them with that shit if they aren’t receptive. It seems so simple?
But the reason is Western Colonization. The Middle East was one of the most progressive places in the world. Islam is still the most tolerant religion. Things like homophobia and antisemitism are injected by the west. The west IS the ROOT CAUSE of all evil in the world. I refuse to accept otherwise. Fuck the west, fuck USA and Europe. And you are a complete unaware about history if you think the Middle East is the birthplace. It’s the west and their so called mora superiority. If the world is freed of Christian cancer it would be a peaceful place immediately.
Either you’re trolling, or have never studied history of Islam, it’s birth and spread. Or were taught those by your local priest.
Don’t bother, its going to be a wasted breathe.
This is clearly either a troll, a kid or just an ignorant fuck that can’t be bothered to do the most basic readings of history.
Go fuck yourself guys. I’m done by the western colonialism apologists. I think you were touched by your priest as a kid.
Great discourse, you sure have shown that you have a complete understanding of what you’re saying with that comment.
How are you going to blame the west when Islam and Middle Eastern religions have been around FAR longer than any country in the west has existed. They’ve always had extreme positions and practices in comparison to what we deem socially acceptable now.
You lack basic knowledge of history. Islam is at least 400 years younger than christofascism. Have you studied any of the religious books? Women in Islam have more rights than they ever had in the West up until 100 years ago.
Can you read? I said now as far as rights go, and I made absolutely no connections to Christianity.
Are you actually trying to say that women who follow Islam have more rights than say Europe, or Canada?
I want to say no, because there are sheds in Scotland (~100 BC) older than Islam (~600 AD), and 600 AD in Europe we had shitton of Kingdoms etc, but maybe I didn’t understand your point? Could you explain what did you mean?
Scotland wasn’t a thing in
600AD100BC (Misread) even if that shed existed. All I meant was that the religions predate what is now considered western countries. It was to show blaming the western world makes absolutely no sense.Why are you even here? Go to WorldJews on Reddit to defend your christo fascism.
I wonder if you know that both Christianity and Islam are just splinter sects of Judaism? And if you’re against Judaism, or think it’s evil or smthing, you should consider being against its spin-offs.
Evil has no birthplace, it has always existed in all people. Evil was there long before ‘The West’ or ‘Middle East’ were things. Religions don’t cause evil or intolerance, but some religions can be easily used to justify stoning gay people to death, or killing women for daring to be independant. If the bible didn’t command that gay people be murdered, or if Islam didn’t command that apostates be slain, it would be much harder to justify these evil acts. This isn’t a problem of religion, it’s a problem of cultures that take their religion too seriously.
This proves that you’re a complete moron.
Come on now, homophobia was baked into the abrahamic religions long before Jesus was born.
Getting citizenship, executed or persecuted for being lgbtq+ is no progressive in anyway
Yep they’ve always been shitty while pointing fingers at atheists for being mad about it.
Ok… GoG it is. Fuck these shills
Valve, the only corporate that one is supposed to bootlick. And ironically it’s a storefront for closed source software.
Yes, the devs who are the actual people affected by this issue, how dare they bootlick!
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GoG is also a Storefront for closed source software, genius. Do you think the software on GoG is open source? Lmao
Yo Einstein, where did I ever say anything about GoG?
People here a so simple when it comes to Valve. All rationality straight out the window. Yo, attention gamers, it is SALE on Steam right now!
from the article:
Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve’s handling of the situation. “I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn’t feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process,” developer Frenzin writes. “But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on.”
you’re blaming the wrong people. nobody is bootlicking.
We need Digital Euro yesterday.
We dont; we need USA pay processors alternatives, and of those in EU we have plenty (but I don’t know your specific country, so maybe not in your country).
There are some (many is really a stretch) but not available in many countries nor supported by many merchants.
I wouldn’t really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I’m surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern).
Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday… you know, common conveniences
Since the issue is with payment processors, we need to switch to crypto to avoid the censorship and abuse of power from banks.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this is a complete moron, but they are average so average people won’t see it.
Popularity == intelligence
this kind of mentality solves nothing. blaming people who don’t know an alternative or who don’t understand crypto is not going to solve this problem. nor is crypto a perfect solution by any means.
you’re suggesting a band-aid solution and shaking your fist at “normies”. quite ironic.
We need a FOSS & decentralized alternative to steam.
This pressure is coming from the payment providers without whom no storefront can operate. We need alternatives to Visa and Mastercard.
GNU-Taler ? (I guess you’re not a fan of cryptocurrency)
Keep your damn monkey pictures away from me
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I swear Europe has a bunch though. Like Klarna?
Ah yes, Klarna, get consumerist product now, forget to pay later!
This is literally the kind of thing crypto was invented for, but the useful idiots on the internet are too stupid to see the value of it.
Good job being morons. You are all being herded like sheep.
I honestly don’t understand how to “do” crypto. Here’s my brain’s interpretation and questions. You will probably see why I, and many others, don’t use it or dabble in it:
It’s got to be mined to obtain (power hog and time)
You can buy it but it is traded like stock which may inflate it to be more expensive to obtain
Who really owns or has responsibility over what you purchase when it comes to the cryptocurrency?
Where is it “stored” (locally, on a cloud somewhere)?
What coin type do you choose and how do you know it’s safe?
Do you just make your own coin and use a program that does everything needed to package it as “money”?
How does someone verify that you actually have the money behind the coin(s)?
Customer protections would suuuuuuuck if everyone was running different variations of, what is essentially, a store. Not to mention shovelware would be even more rampant.
Uh, I think it’s called the World Wide Web.
I mean, I’m joking, but I do remember buying games directly from a developers website, that’s a thing that used to happen.
Seems like a weekend hack to set up a fediverse-backed categorized market that, when you want to buy something- forwards to a “buy our download” link of the seller’s choice. Rabid moralists would have to challenge each producer/indie developer individually to take things down.
The real crux is to build a nice user interface on top of it so people would actually use it.
Nope. This was a rumor and the article title is misleading. Valve blocked NSFW updates of games that were originally labeled as SFW and then the dev tried to update with NSFW game elements.