Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt when Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task (www.brainonllm.com)
from AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space to technology@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 13:15
https://lemmy.abnormalbeings.space/post/4665270

Mastodon thread summarising the study, by one of the involved scientists:

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systemglitch@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 13:32 next collapse

Same reason I don’t use GPS. I want to actually learn, use my brain and grow as a human.

No one grows when the work is done for them.

Weslee@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 13:33 next collapse

Do you use a calculator?

My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 13:44 next collapse

Slide rule

Typhoonigator@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 16:59 collapse

Abacus

My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 18:48 collapse

Beans in a clay pot

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 19 Jun 05:55 collapse

Fingers and toes

systemglitch@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 14:10 collapse

I usually try doing it in my head first. I use paper if it is available. I use a calculator when I don’t have time, or fail at the first two steps.

I noticed my number skills were deteriorating without proper use, and I found that alarming. I’m still weaker than I used to be, but not as bad as I was.

It’s just important to think for ones self when one can. The brain is a muscle that atrophies without use.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Jun 14:20 collapse

Maybe you number skills are fading because you waste your time and energy on pointless computations. Maybe they just fade with time…

The brain is a muscle that atrophies without use.

This is anti-scientific. But again I don’t think doing multiplication problems is really going to help anything.

deur@feddit.nl on 17 Jun 17:16 collapse

Your brain is weirdly unhappy with the concept of other brains doing math. Nice!

The brainpower involved in mental math is just real-time factorization and otherwise general application of the rules of arithmatic. It’s no waste, it’s just a well practiced set of pathways that take annoying math and make it friendly. It takes at most 2 seconds to know if it’s time to use a calculator.

veeesix@lemmy.ca on 17 Jun 13:47 next collapse

I do something similar except I’ll stop using my GPS if I’ve driven the route multiple times.

AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space on 17 Jun 13:53 collapse

I think that is a good compromise, or maybe doing it just for your own local area and regular commute routes.

While I get the appeal in general, I don’t know if I want to go back to planning out a route with maps when driving to far-away unfamiliar locations.

systemglitch@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 14:04 next collapse

Roads trips I’m willing to compromise on, but not my home city. That’s the one place I should know like the back of my hand.

veeesix@lemmy.ca on 17 Jun 14:31 collapse

Depends on the complexity of the route. When I visit my parents in another city (5-6 hour drive) I write down the intersections/exit numbers to look out for on a sticky note I leave on the dashboard.

I guess if you wanted to get detailed you could include the distance then as you drive do the mental math as an activity for yourself.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Jun 16:19 collapse

For long drives I have maps up mostly to alert me for traffic. Even if I know the route.

Bags@piefed.social on 17 Jun 14:35 next collapse

I've actually taken note of my navigational skills over the last couple years... I grew up in one state, and then a few years after graduating college, moved to a different state. When I was growing up, phone navigation didn't really exist as it does now, cars didn't have built-in navigation, and standalone navigation devices were slow and not all that great (at least the ones I could afford).

I find that when I return home, even 10 years later, I am able to navigate all the places I used to go unaided with ease, back-roads, niche routes, able to travel for hours without getting "lost".

When I moved, though, I had very recently gotten my first smartphone, and google maps was very convenient to "learn" the new area. I ended up just continuing to use navigation since it was convenient. I've found that beyond the major main routes, I don't have the same kind of "built-in" navigational skill that I do for my original home-turf. I never really learned the area.

I am moving towards a smart-phone-less life, and I've been able to let go of a lot, but GPS navigation remains a sticking point. I need to start training myself to navigate unaided in my current area.

taiyang@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 14:48 next collapse

I like this analogy and generally avoid using GPS (admittedly it’s out of laziness lol). The most insane part to me is I live where everything is on a grid and somehow people are still impressed I can figure out how to get places, even without having been there. GPS brain is real.

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 16:58 collapse

I drive via landmarks and signs most of the time unless it’s an address I don’t personally know. Makes you feel more connected to where you live.

Akasazh@feddit.nl on 18 Jun 08:38 next collapse

I use them to find a new route. I’ll try and drive back on memory. After that I should be able to find it on my own

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 14:48 collapse

Your brain doesn’t have real time traffic information.

henfredemars@infosec.pub on 17 Jun 13:42 next collapse

I ask AI to avoid all the AI slop search results I’d have to sift through when I could get my slop delivered directly.

r0ertel@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 14:28 collapse

Are you referring to the AI search results? If so, I’ve fallen into a similar strategy. I’ll search for something, usuaply how to do something then read the AI result. If it’s what I’m looking for, then I’ll click through to the referenced articles. The AI result is usually too vague. Part of my problem is probably bad searching skills on my part. I’ll often find what I’m looking for way down the first page or sometimes the second page of results. The AI cuts through that searching page after page or tells me that I need to change my search terms.

errer@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 18:08 next collapse

The real problem is that the first 10 links after the AI slop are all ads. At least the slop (for now) is less ad-centric. I am 100% sure that will change soon.

Repelle@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 21:22 collapse

With Gemini I have had several instances of the referenced article saying nothing like what the llm summarized. Ie: The LLM tried to answer my question and threw up a website on the general topic with no bearing on the actual question

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Jun 14:18 next collapse

“EEG” on “AI”? I heard you like pseudo-science, so I put extra pseudo-science in your pseudo-science, dawg!!!

skepller@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 14:33 next collapse

Although it’s easy to “create” pseudo-science with EEG data, the presence of EEG by itself does not mean straight pseudo-science. It can be used correctly, and it’s actively used in the medical field to detect brain diseases, for example.

*That said, I’m not saying the study here is to be believed, I have not read it, just commenting on EEG

Feathercrown@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 14:51 next collapse

EEG on AI users

Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de on 17 Jun 19:21 next collapse

What’s wrong with EEG?

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 18 Jun 12:35 collapse

  • ☐ you misunderstand EEG
  • ☐ you confuse EEG with something else
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 15:45 collapse

It’s low energy brain porn, nmr brain imaging, gray matter v white matter, all the same flavour of reading tea leaves.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 19 Jun 09:25 collapse

  • ☒ you misunderstand EEG
Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 17 Jun 16:46 next collapse

You would think the world right now is led by bright, clever, thoughtful individuals considering the AI panic lol

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 15:44 collapse

We have the meanest dumfucks instead, we’re tired of playing on easy mode.

gofsckyourself@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 17:49 next collapse

“ChatGPT, summarize this study for me”

[deleted] on 18 Jun 12:29 next collapse

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interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 18 Jun 15:41 collapse

Chatgpt is so hopelessly and blindly pro science it will be incapable to address its shortcomings unless you actively rub its nose in it. And that would mean you know how the sausage is made well enough that you don’t need a summary.

vane@lemmy.world on 17 Jun 23:01 next collapse

So basically LLM is new eugenics, we turn people back into animals.

tdawg@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 14:27 collapse

As an anecdote I can attest to this personally. I stopped using AI assistance tools for my work bc I noticed I’d stopped thinking about what I was doing

ArtVandelay@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 20:40 collapse

I can attest to the exact same thing.