YouTube music. But since Lite has ads then idk what it’s different. I’m assuming Lite also doesn’t have music.
propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe
on 06 Jun 04:09
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Youtube already has music.
Just pick your song and listen to it…
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
on 06 Jun 04:28
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I remember when YouTube Music first came out it was pretty much just the audio from the videos in the most atrocious quality. Has it changed since then?
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 05:02
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Youtube Music is pretty much just youtube with a different UI - the videos are the same. The audio quality is whatever’s uploaded, so it’ll vary a lot song to song.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
on 06 Jun 05:04
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Oh good, I’m not missing out then. I moved around quite a bit between Deezer, Tidal, random piracy in FLAC until finally landing on Apple Music.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 06:25
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I’ve resorted back to piracy, but mostly cuz my taste in music confuses the hell out of the algorithms: I’m a fan of symphonic metal, and seeding one of those songs as the start of a playlist on something like YT music will land you with a combination of heavy death metal and renaissance fair music.
If I ever find one that can actually distinguish sub-genres of metal, then sign me the fuck up!!
When I started listening to more obscure avantgarde records, I stopped believing in genres. I mean, take Mr Bungle for example. Twelve genres in four minutes. How would you even label that?
You can mix TIDAL and piracy; I use tidal-dl quite a lot. The problem with streaming services is that they can close shop in five minutes, and all of “your” music won’t be yours anymore.
What I didn’t like about Tidal was their weird format being advertised as lossless when it wasn’t. It didn’t really sound all that great.
There was an application called requiem (if I remember correctly) that could rip music from older Windows XP versions of iTunes; it was only available over Tor quite some time ago. I’m not sure what people would use these days (maybe just a [modified] DAC?).
Youtube Music is pretty much just youtube with a different UI
Lmao, what? YouTube Music is essentially Spotify with the ability to add YouTube videos to your playlists. It has an enormous music library comparable to other streaming services, it’s not “youtube with a different ui”.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 10:47
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…that enormous library is called “YouTube videos”.
You’re not necessarily streaming video on YT music, just audio.
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 05:00
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In the time it takes for a video to even show up, I can have a song playing with a playlist behind it. One video is the same amount of data as many songs.
My phone is my home internet and is often under 100KB/s, even at 240p YouTube takes way longer than YouTube music.
Glitchvid@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 05:00
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Moderately, it’s still not as good as Play Music it replaced, and frankly the only reason I use it is because it comes with Premium (and Lite gets ads so fuck that deal), otherwise I’d subscribe to something else for music (aside from growing my album collection on Bandcamp).
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 05:03
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I heard good things about play music but I was super pov when that existed and didn’t pay for any online stuff, it was piracy or nothing.
Thats the exact same reason I have YouTube music.
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 05:18
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That was the reason to use Play Music when it was a thing. Upload all your torrented music and stream it for free.
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 09:05
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And it’s better for people who want to listen to more than just a few songs, for people who need an organized collections, playlists, etc. In other words, for those who need a music streaming service. YouTube isn’t one.
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 09:47
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Premium Lite does not include access to YouTube Music - or else the ads on music videos wouldn’t be seen. (That’s the only thing i can understand on this bastardized version of a premium service)
Can you, though? Because I remember when DVB started in Europe, they’ve sent a signal during commercials that makes your device block the fast forward feature.
I don’t know whether that’s still a thing. But you needed a hacked firmware on your TV / set top box to allow to FFWD through commercials back then.
Newpipe is all I have. I signed up for a couple creators patreon to support those I really like. Fuck Google. They are here for the investors bottom line not our shit. But people just want their shit and it perpetuates this behavior. My friend said he pays to support the creators he likes. He supports the giant corporation holding these creators ransom. Just send them money directly. Use new pipe or whatever. Quit supporting this shit and let the whole thing die until we realize there has to be a better way.
Why think of the consumer when you have practical monopoly on online video content distribution. If the creators are on youtube so will their audience and vice versa. Where will any of them go if you squeeze?
Usually_Lurker@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 07:23
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This is the way!!
I even subscribed to youtube premium when it came bundled with music streaming as well. back then it was a good deal. They kept raising prices and making the end product worse. Now it just seems obnoxious.
This happens from time to time. Open a private window and sign in, or wait a couple of hours for the prompt to reset. Ublock will update in a week or so to get rid of the prompts until the next time YouTube updates the detection software.
I’ve gotten some home page ads on revanced lately, but they’ll surely be patched out soon again
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jun 03:05
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In case anyone is reading this and using an iPhone, Orion is the only iOS browser afaik to currently support uBlock Origin. I haven’t had a single ad since discovering that. Picture in Picture mode works too, as long as you go full screen with the video before swiping home. Hope this helps someone.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 12:03
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I truly, truly don’t get it.
Ublock Origin + Firefox still works.
Works just fine.
Been that way for over a decade.
Yes, if you’re more privacy concerned (and there are good reasons to be) you can use some other browser, something like NewPipe, or Invidious…
But I just don’t get why any normie, ever, goes for YT Premium…
YouTube started detecting and complaining about that yesterday (for me).
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 14:38
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It complained about it for me as well.
And then kept working.
I am currently crippled and basically just do PT, shitpost on lemmy, and watch youtube… all day long.
If it was gonna block me after 3 videos, it missed it by about 100.
TrueMonoxidist@lemmy.zip
on 06 Jun 04:33
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Isn’t this because the music industry insisted on taking a cut of all YouTube shorts revenue? Like even if their songs aren’t getting played, they still rake in money from views.
BertramDitore@lemmy.zip
on 06 Jun 04:41
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Or, and hear me out: just install a browser plugin and forget ads exist.
I hesitate to name extensions names, but I’ve literally never seen an ad on YouTube.
These companies don’t respect us, so I don’t feel the need to respect them by allowing them to force their meaningless bullshit down my throat.
I don’t use it that much, but you better believe if I go to YouTube to watch a video, that video is the only thing I’m watching.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 05:01
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Firefox + ublock origin + sponsorblock and I haven’t seen an ad on youtube in all the years since I started that combo.
Yesterday evening I got a pop-up that I should disable ublock from youtube. Refreshing page got rid of that but apparently it’s time for me to run some updates on this thing. I’ve seen that few times, google changes something and as I’m a bit lazy to run updates my system sometimes gives the pop up.
asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
on 06 Jun 05:11
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This ain’t reddit. You can freely name extension names here.
Oh I know, I’ve been here for years despite the age of my account. I just migrated from lemm.ee
I tend not to like to name these types of extensions because more exposure puts them at risk, and they’re super easy to find anyway.
asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
on 06 Jun 05:36
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uBlock is already pretty much known as the best adblocker in the internet. Not sure what more exposure it could get.
swizzlestick@lemmy.zip
on 06 Jun 05:53
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It’s better to name known safe options rather than leave it up to user search. The entities that work against extensions like uBO are already well aware of their existence, so hiding their names has no benefit.
Case in point - uBlock and uBlock Origin are not the same, with the former being a bastardised version that does ‘acceptable ads’. There are plenty of other poor blocking options out there for the unsuspecting to stumble into besides that.
Personal setup is Librewolf/uBO on the client and pfBlockerNG/Snort for network level blocking/additional security layer.
And welcome to .zip :) Hope you enjoy the new home!
Well, you shouldn’t watch smart tv anyway. Shut off that slop and use your tv as a dumb tv through a computer. The other way is just asking to be exploited.
That way I won’t get DolbyVision metadata though and getting surround sound workin is a chore, also.
Not to speak about comfortable control from my couch without a keyboard/mouse.
Instead, I use an appleTV. It’s ad free, supports all streaming services I need (including my jellyfin) and almost all common video, audio and HDR formats. Even supports VPNs for getting around geofencing.
Besides the initial purchase price (which is steep but there aren’t many comparable devices), not having adblock working in YouTube is really the only actual downside. And for that a few friends and I share a YT family subscription. Has the benefit of my views actually paying the creators for the content they provide me and us not having to pay the ridiculous amounts of solo subscriptions.
Would never use the integrated SmartTV feature of the vast majority of TV manufacturers (LG used to be so good before they put ads everywhere). My TV hasn’t seen an Internet connection even once.
They’re trying to block adblockers again, it seems. I got the “adblockers are not allowed” popup again recently.
HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 14:57
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Oh no… Anyways,
* Adds a filter for the pop-up*
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 04:42
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I feel like youtube is losing sight of why users are paying for the service then.
To me, personally, youtube is useful enough that I will keep paying to remove ads entirely (in combination with ublock). That being said, there will come a time when the value proposition is no longer balanced. Then I will stop paying, and probably stop using it as well.
But as always with Google, I question whether their motive is to kill another service. They’re very competent at that specific thing.
Exactly. If every ad-dependent website went offline tomorrow and all we were left with was Wikipedia, PeerTube, government/academia sites and a bunch of Geocities-esque “labor of love” hobbyist pages, nothing of value would be lost.
True, but my point was that even a lot of the commercial websites that do have other products do not depend on ads, e.g. Amazon and all the other stores would still be there, every company offering a paid service would still be there, every company providing a service related to their RL goods (e.g. specs, drivers, product descriptions, lists of stores where you can buy them,…) would still be there.
Advertising does not finance a very large percentage of the useful parts of the internet. And among those advertising financed websites that are useful a lot are essentially duplicates to get a chunk of the ad revenue without doing a lot of work (e.g. almost all news websites that just republish AP, Reuters,… content).
I would of if there was a family tier that plays YouTube without ads in my country. The content I watch is good and authors deserve payment IMO. Sadly there is currently no competition, there are some marginal subscription services and there is peertube which doesn’t have monetization.
If it was only few seconds. At best you can skip after 5s but then you get plenty of 15-50s ads every 5+ minutes or so with some videos. It makes it almost impossible to watch it.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk
on 06 Jun 05:26
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I’ve had no issues with adblocker for over half a year. Works flawlessly on both browser and mobile browser.
chaosCruiser@futurology.today
on 06 Jun 05:30
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Problem solved! I don’t need to think about this premium stuff any more. Recently, I’ve been playing with the idea of paying for premium, but that’s no longer the case. Specifically, the family pack is the one that kinda made some limited sense in the past. I can see the kind of game Google is playing, and I’m not planning to participate.
My ublock origin was having issues today and I had to scale back some of the stuff being blocked.
GargleBlaster@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 06:19
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Most of the time reloading the filters fixes uBlock Origin not working
KnightontheSun@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 06:22
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They must be making extra effort lately. I got the “Ad blockers are prohibited” popup twice today on two systems. One Linux and one windows. Librewolf, UO and SB on both.
That way of thinking is a trap. They did have a more reasonably priced ad free tier but people using it only made it worse over time because it got so popular that Youtube could confidently raise prices and slash benefits. And the line has to go up. That‘s the only thing that matters to them.
YouTube Premium Lite is Premium, it’s in the name. I presume the OP is saying the only reason people buy Premium is to be rid of ads, therefore Lite is pointless.
hellequin67@lemmy.zip
on 06 Jun 06:57
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I’ve long said to myself, the day revanced, smarttube and adblockers stop working is the day I stop browsing YT.
I watched my son showing me something the other day, he can’t yet login via revanced so still has ads, what a shit show.
I asked him how he copes with all the ads, he said I’m dumb to them now I just ignore it. But still coming from zero ads to that was a very jarring experience.
It’s an android only apk which you sideload and strips all adds from YouTube content.
nucleative@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 06:58
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I think I’m understanding the playbook here.
Eventually YouTube will cost 89.99 a month and also be full of ads.
Then they will be disrupted by some startup company that will have to fight uphill for search and bandwidth access through Google’s monopolistic front door.
Years later a court case will be decided and the new guy will be up and running a free service with a few ads or 1.99 a month for no ads!
And then we get to go through it all again.
BrightCandle@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 08:38
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There is no end to the greed of those with millions and especially billions and they aren’t content to just keep running a profitable business, they have to get all the money.
This is just the history of humanity and finances forever, the one saving grace in all this is every big business gets complacent in its money making and seeks ever increasing profit (and becomes management heavy) until a young upstart finds a way to do it a lot better and cheaper and disrupts the market. Google has become the big lumbering unable to change organisation seeking maximum profit now, its become IBM.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
on 06 Jun 12:46
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I tried watching a 30 minute video on YouTube the other day and it injected ads every 1 minute for the entire video. Fuck Google. Fuck YouTube. Fuck Alphabet.
AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 14:19
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An interesting component here is that it’s possible that the video creator is responsible for this silly level of ads, but it’s impossible to know. Creators can select points in the video where ads will happen, which they can use to preserve the video’s flow as much as possible. In theory, you can even select to not monetise your video at all, which is a useful tool if the topic is something particularly dense or sensitive. In practice, I’ve seen plenty of creators apologizing when an inappropriate ad plays at a sensitive part of the video, despite them having tried to disable ads on the video. It must suck to have so little power over one’s own work.
In your case, I suspect this was a creator choosing to maximally monetise their video, given the regularity and number of ads. However, it’s possible that this is a 100% “Fuck Google” situation, given how opaque they are. I find it frustrating that when we have poor experiences like yours, we don’t even have a clear target to get angry at. It leads to accountability so diffuse that it’s like homeopathy. Getting angry doesn’t necessarily help change things (at least individually), but it can be incredibly cathartic even then
Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 14:44
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I used to watch YouTube with ads since they added ads. It wasn’t too bad.
Then during the start of Covid tons of people watched YouTube and googles greedy eyes lit up… they went from 1-3 (skipable) ads per video to ads every minute of video. I was like WHAT THE F&$@… then installed U-block.
I couldn’t believe their greed.
I also spent Covid downloading (yt-dlp) every video I wanted to archive for offline (never know if they will someday block downloads), I’m also worried for a time we loose YouTube. 99% of the things I loved about the internet is dead now, someday it will happen to YouTube too.
I’ve been using Ublock origin for years and I’ve never seen a message like that
nichtsowichtig@feddit.org
on 06 Jun 08:40
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correct me if I’m wrong, but I think ublock origin updates quickly enough to remove these notifications before most users see them
AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 14:07
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It often does, yeah. Not always though. I got one of the adblock warnings last night, and it refused to play the video. I fixed it by heading into ublock settings and manually updating. It always makes me laugh how rapidly the ad-blocker arms war progresses
For your web browser, don’t use Chrome. Use Firefox with uBlock, NoScript, Sponsorblock, and a VPN like Mullvad.
For Smart TV usage, block your TV’s built in “smart functionality” and its access to the internet via MAC address blacklist on your router. Also use SmartTubeNext on a Shield Pro with FLauncher instead of Google’s.
For mobile, use 3rd party YouTube clients on your device like Vanced on Android, and Unwatched on iOS.
Same here. And I’m waiting for them to finally do it because it’ll free up so much of my time. I might start reading books again.
Also, it’s the last Google-service I’m using. So, banning me from it will allow me to finally delete my Google account.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 08:04
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How about we collectively say fuck youtube and move content to Odysee or something else?
I’m fine with uBlock, but wouldn’t it be better if we just kill alphabet progressively? I’m already out Gsuite (nextcloud), gmail (own server), search (duckduckgo), chrome (firefox), I dont even link my phone to a gmail account. i just need to get ride of yt.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
on 06 Jun 10:57
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Premium light i guess. So you pay to get some ads? I don’t know
antithetical@lemmy.deedium.nl
on 06 Jun 09:40
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It’s a sad state of affairs. I would pay for youtube in a heartbeat if it wasn’t connected to the biggest spyware company in the world. But now, even while paying you still get ads and they still track you. The people working at Alphabet are bad and should feel bad.
Adblock/revanced are working. Google’s ad revenue is getting squeezed and so they need to shoehorn more ads everywhere to get the same revenue levels, since so many people never see the ads.
Keep using them. You’re making business really difficult for scummy Google.
The $ revenue share to creators per video view has dropped, even though the percentage of Google’s ad revenue shared with the creator has remained the same. So to me this means Google is earning less per video view. (That could also be just a result of the ad market in general collapsing, eg advertisers just pay less)
Also, Google has added new requirements to get the video share. You need to post new videos at a regular cadence, or they kick you out–even if your old videos are still getting views. (began being enforced in 2023, I think). Its another way they can keep their revenue numbers looking OK by cutting a cost associated with older videos.
Google has also escalated their efforts to make it more difficult to view content without also viewing the ads.
So maybe its wishful thinking, but I think they are feeling the squeeze.
Unfortunately unlike the reddit or twitter situations its significantly harder to accumulate enough fresh video content to attract the views necessary to get the ball rolling and make a shift away from YouTube.
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 12:12
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freetube still works great! no ads, and an easy to use interface.
And it has an Android fork (FreeTube Android), and can have playlists, subscriptions etc. synced across devices with Syncthing. It does sometimes result in sync conflicts though, but if you reload it before using it on a device, you will be fine. Most sync conflicts I get are for history, and that’s fine by me to lose some history.
WindyRebel@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 12:22
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Common People, Black Mirror Season 7
FauxLiving@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 12:26
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Also starting to spread on the cheapest plans of streaming services like Prime and Netflix.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 14:23
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YouTube already had too many ads, and I stopped using as a result. That was several months ago. I guess I’ll just have to stop using it even harder.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 15:11
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Because the fucking line must go fucking up! the large hot forks should be going up the CEOs and investors asses instead!
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 15:18
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Edit: Guys. I think a lot of you missed where I said EASIEST METHODS.
Easiest methods to ditch Youtube ads:
PC: Firefox + uBlock Origin
Mac, option 1: Safari + AdGuard
Mac, option 2: Firefox + uBlock Origin
Android, option 1: Youtube ReVanced (FYI: ALL Play Store listings for this are fake; the official site is revanced.app and is the only place to get it)
Android, option 2: Firefox Mobile + uBlock Origin
iPhone/iPad: Safari + AdGuard
For those who may have heard about Pi-hole and are wondering why it’s not on this list: PI-HOLE DOES NOT BLOCK YOUTUBE ADS. IT NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 06 Jun 15:27
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Can I block youtube ads with a transparent proxy like squid ?
What about a self-hosted youtube auto-downloading queue list ? I’m fine with .mp4 files !
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 15:44
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Can I block youtube ads with a transparent proxy like squid ?
I haven’t tried that, so I’m not entirely sure. I just focused on the easy methods that most people will gravitate towards.
Try it and let us know what you find!
What about a self-hosted youtube auto-downloading queue list ? I’m fine with .mp4 files !
Sounds like yt-dlp. Lots of people use that to get around ads, and also for data hoarding.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 17:26
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I think it is extremely hard because they are served from the same servers (technically, ads are YouTube videos)
And if the logic on the client isn’t removed, it will hang waiting for the ad
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 07 Jun 07:11
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I’m curious for something more sophisticated that dns blocks. Something that modifies the content on the fly like, ublock, dark reader and sponsorblock.
Also, Theres this very unknown app Called Freetube for all plattforms or newpipe for Android
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 15:41
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Revanced uses microG, which is optional. I also mentioned that these were the easiest methods. But, you’re absolutely right in that there are plenty of other methods to choose from.
I tried Freetube for a while, but it just never works. An actual coin flip each day whether or not anything would load at all. I got so tired of it I just went back to Youtube, as I’ve only ever seen one single ad in my entire time using uBlock Origin on Librewolf.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 20:57
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Google is constantly making changes that break it, the developers fix them quickly… but if your distro doesn’t keep the newest version in their repo then you’d have to install it from their git repo.
Generally they have a patch for any breaking changes within the day.
pipes@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 21:11
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If you want to give it a try again, get mpv and yt-dlp installed in your system then activate from Freetube settings the external player button, which you’ll be able to click from search or from a vid page
I use it consistently with few issues. Once in a while, usually on Thursdays (when it seems YT rolls out changes), something breaks, but the devs are quick to fix it. The last issue I experienced was when YT transitioned to SABR, and it was out for a day or two before they had things working again. I am at least perfectly capable of going without for a day once every two months.
It’s also one of the projects I’ve used to learn more about how fixes are worked on in FOSS. I will typically run nightly builds also - I find it pretty cool to follow an issue and once they push a fix I can instantly grab that fresh build without waiting for it to be packaged.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 17:20
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Android, option 3 (Better): newpipe from fdroid. 0% algorithmic feed, exclusively show who you’re following, in chronological order
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 20:06
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How does Newpipe work? It feels too good to be free.
No Grayjay? Been using that almost exclusively since they released the desktop version. Had to log out and back in with my (new, basically blank) YT account a few times after updates, and there are very rare cases of certain videos not wanting to load, but overall it’s been working well so far.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 15:37
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When options like uBlock and FreeTube no longer block ads, I’ll stop watching YouTube. They’ll never get a cent out of me.
If it weren’t Google, I wouldn’t be against paying. Fuck Google.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 15:48
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if ublock origin stops working, you can erase your youtube cookies or wait a few hours for a ublock origin update to work around it.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 15:45
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Ironic that just yesterday I was getting blocked on youtube telling me that adblocking was illegal/against tos/whatever and that if i didnt want Ads I could subscribe to Youtube Premium… only now to announce ads on premium.
What a fucking shithole company.
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and they continue to take no accountability for failing to police their own ads, thus creating the essential need for adblocking services in the first place.
WE WOULDNT BE BLOCKING ADS IF YOU REGULATED ADVERTISERS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO REGULATE VIEWERS.
WE WOULDNT BE BLOCKING ADS IF YOU REGULATED ADVERTISERS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO REGULATE VIEWERS.
I still would.
grandma@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 16:59
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I would actually pay for YT premium if it was reasonably priced and I think there are many like me. Why are they shooting themselves in the foot?
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 17:16
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If you use yt music and watch YouTube as your main entertainment, it’s well worth it imo.
With that said, I’ve been degoogling and this is probably the one I won’t be able to break.
PixiePoop@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Jun 20:27
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Same here. YT is the only Google owned service I still use. I personally don’t mind the cost, since I watch a lot and wish to support the people that make the content. I would love a proper alternative but I don’t see that happen any time soon.
it’s not like the rightwing conspiracy nuts just showed up and Rumble got unfairly stuck with a bad reputation - Rumble is based in the same offices as Trump Media / Truth Social, conspiracy nuts are the whole intent from the start.
another alternative is Nebula.tv
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jun 08:00
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Oh boy, well yikes nvm lol
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 07 Jun 13:15
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Don’t forget Peertube, which is a part of fedi
TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 18:45
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I actually paid for it for a bit after I got a few months free with a Pixel a while ago. And it was pretty good and reasonably priced.
Then they started removing features (no dislike bar for you lol) and raising the price and I’m never giving them a single goddamn cent or not using a block on their shit.
I’ve since cancelled and transitioned from workspace or whatever they call it now and use Revanced, ublock origin, etc. They actually had my money and they fucked it. Never again. Get fucked, Google and the shit huffing execs in charge of it.
It’s never enough for these people. They want all of your money and they won’t stop until they have it. Fucking blood suckers.
madcaesar@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 19:25
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I’ll never pay for until until 1. It’s reasonably priced, 2. Downvotes are returned and 3 sponsor block is integrated into the app.
Can I add 4. the integrated video downloader actually downloads videos, in whatever format you would want, and with no internet connection required to watch them. This to me is still the biggest scam ‘feature’ of Youtube Premium. You can ‘’‘download’‘’ videos, but not as eg. an mp4, but as an encrypted file only playable inside the Youtube app, and only if you connected to the internet in the last couple of days can you play it.
That’s not downloading, that’s just jacking my disk space to avoid buffering the video from Youtube’s servers.
That’s not a feature, that’s me paying for Youtube’s benefit.
I cancelled and haven’t paid for Premium in years because of it. When someone scams me out of features I paid for, I don’t reward that shit until they either stop lying in their feature list, or actually start delivering.
Holy shit, I didn’t even know about that bullshit. Yea that definitely makes the list.
redwattlebird@lemmings.world
on 06 Jun 21:34
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Because of the desire for infinite growth. The line must go up 💹
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jun 02:54
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Same. They should have a lower tier where your first N hours of watch time have no ads. I don’t watch a ton, so that would probably convince me to pay.
I made this comment some time ago on another thread about YouTube ads.
With the sheer number of concurrent users, worldwide, 24/7, YouTube could show one ad every three or four videos, and still make a mind boggling amount of money.
But if some money is good, more must be better, right?
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 17:51
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To remove ads subscribe to Youtube Premium Platinum Plutonium and select the Ad-Free! add-on (for only an additional $2.95/mo)*.
*promotional first-month price only; increases after 30 days to regular rate of $5.95/mo **
*** with VIP subscription only; regular rate $11.95/mo.
InputZero@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 18:08
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####These terms of service can only be updated by GOOGLE at anytime with or without notice. You hearby agree to this term of service and, any and all updates, without review, made by GOOGLE to the terms of service.####
I had to go iOS because of… reasons,but you can sideload modded youtube app, with sponsorblock. exactly as on android,but with many headaches like token expiry every week and other bullshit issues like google not allowing IPAs directly in github repos.
Lame, but it can be done.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 21:22
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Oh good, we’re not up to having to provide bone marrow (yet).
maxysoft@lemmy.maxynetwork.it
on 06 Jun 17:51
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Wait, so I was right?
I will pay only when Google ensure that my data will not be used for any type of advertising or AI training (this obviously includes selling to third parties). Months ago I read around, I don’t know if it’s true, that even those with a premium account will see ads. If that proves true, it means I will never make the subscription. It’s pretty simple.
sturmblast@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 20:05
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I haven’t gone to a movie in like… 10 years probably. Ha…
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 21:02
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Yeah, horrible innit? When I used to go to the cinema as a kid in the 70s and 80s, you’d get maybe ten minutes of trailers before your film. And I never minded that, I don’t dislike watching trailers. These days, totally different. Last time I went to the cinema there was maybe half an hour of ads. Some trailers, but mostly just advertisements for crap.
It is so fuckin disrespectful to their customers. If I wanted to see all that bullshit, I could have stayed home and watched it on TV. Except I don’t watch TV because the experience is so poor - largely because of ads.
I understand that cinemas have been struggling ever since covid, even before, and I understand that advertising revenue pays the bills. But cinema isn’t cheap, for me it’s an occasional treat when there’s something I really wanna see on the big screen. I do not want to spend that much money and get treated like a fuckin farm animal being fed crap. Wankers.
I can’t be alone in feeling this way, who wants to pay to see ads? Who thinks that sounds like a great evening out? It ruins the experience, and it’s insulting, by the time the movie starts I’m angry. I’d rather pay a bit more and just have a couple of trailers.
I recently went to a small autonomous cinema with a mate and saw Mulholland Drive. Great experience, comfy seats, could bring in drinks from the bar, no fuckin ads. But for new films there aren’t many options. So I don’t often go to the cinema.
Sorry for this long and bitter diatribe! You just hit on something that really pisses me off too.
That happened to me once. I think it was I Heart Huckabees. It started and people were so confused. I half think David O Russel asked them to do it to throw people off.
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
on 06 Jun 20:15
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I’m self-hosting Invidious… I get a nice, free YouTube experience without ever visiting YouTube.
Wasn’t aware of this, that’s awesome. Unfortunately it would need to be able to cast to various HTPCs and be easy enough for my family to use to fully replace YouTube in my house.
fungalfelidae5@lemm.ee
on 06 Jun 20:35
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get ublock or revanced
ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 21:20
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I keep noticing people in this thread recommending UBlock Origin, with others replying that they eventually got a popup to turn off their adblocker.
This is usually followed by replies mentioning they just click X (or add a UBlock filter on the popup), and go on with watching Youtube. No problem, right?
According to Ublock Origin’s Redd*t Post, that is just the first warning stage; eventually the presentation of their anti-adblock message becomes more intrusive until you receive the “The in-player message. Playback is stopped.”
I should know. I get that message on any Youtube video (while logged in), and it doesn’t go away for several hours.
That said, my workaround (extremely hacky) was to find the RSS feeds for all of my channel subscriptions, and then add them to FreshRSS.
That section of my RSS feed essentially acts like a Youtube subscription page, but not tied to an actual account.
On my computer: I watch them in a private browser Firefox profile I’ve dedicated solely to Youtube (and has all of the extensions already installed, of course).
On Android: I watch them using NewPipe.
Edit: In addition, I store my “watch later” links using Linkding, which was easy to setup. While I do see reply suggestions on how to get rid of the popup, I think it’s better (for the long term) to have an independent way to consume Youtube. While Youtube currently implements a 4 stage system, they could always add another stage or make the current one more strict.
I think my approach requires more set up work (and probably introduces more friction) compared to reply suggestions, but overall is more resistant to future updates to Youtube’s nagging system.
Ublock orgins on Firefox has worked for me so far on both pc and mobile. No warnings.
I do also have umatrix on pc, but I can’t really recommend it for everyone since it requires some setup on every web page which most people would find too annoying.
eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Jun 21:49
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Previously I had the warnings until uBlock killed them. Only one has made it through in recent times, we’ll see how things keep going.
if this happens to me I just won’t watch youtube anymore. It’s mostly garbage content anyway.
terminhell@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 22:27
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Ubo and ff mobile: I got the warning for the first time yesterday. Closed ff completely and it went back to normal. I also run pihole too, so maybe a mix of them together has kept my account ‘safe’ still. And I’m still yt freemium. FF mobile with desktop site enabled allows for audio play back with screen off btw.
Admittedly i’m not a huge youtube watcher, but since logging out there’s not a single damned nag when i run a marathon
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Jun 23:43
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Same. I use it in a dedicated Firefox container, so if I ever get a nag, I’ll clear the cores all cookies in that container and I assume that’ll reset whatever that is.
i dont log in, for the purposes of google gathering more data about you. and also i would get in the habit of commenting on videos, which i dont do anymore.
Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf
on 06 Jun 22:32
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YouTube has so many ads now it’s ridiculous. Yesterday YouTube threatened me with the popup even though I have UBlock on Firefox. I’ve seen 10 ads on a 20 minute video. As if the un-skipabble 2 minute long ads that pause when you switch tabs wasn’t bad enough, YouTube is now putting ads in their Premium.
YouTube is in dire need of a big competitor and fast.
Yeah. Lately in 20min chunks I’ve been getting about 4 ad breaks, so if it’s an hour+ in length…
And some of those ‘ads’ are 3min, 5min…one was almost 2hrs! Yes, there’s the skip button, but if it’s that long then it’s not an ad and it has no place in an ad break.
minorkeys@lemmy.world
on 06 Jun 22:53
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They will always want you to watch more ads. Doesn’t matter that you literally pay them not to. Manipulating your purchase habits is more profitable than your subscription is because your tolerance for ads sets the amount they can sell.
yup, it would be an onslaught of ads if ever stopped using it for 1 second. i done that a couple times to support some content creators a couple time, never again.
waddle_dee@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 01:32
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Well, I’m still happy that my grandfathered $7.99 plan from the GPM days still holds up, fully ad-free.
Watch your card on file. I had the whole enchalada once and loved using the music app and no ads. Card expired for one payment, sub cancelled, and I fixed it immediately. They wouldn’t give it back to me, and refused to refund the larger payment for just Youtube.
mechoman444@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 02:26
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Youtube ads? I have no clue what you’re talking about…
All the people saying “I’ll just stop using it, no big loss,” are you only using YouTube for fun? Have you never needed to pass a class, prep for a job, work on a house, learn a skill using it?
It is such a large repository of human knowledge that is so far not widely replicated anywhere else. I rely on it for learning skills to provide for my family, as far as learning other useful abilities.
For example, YouTube taught me how to service my own vehicles. I have a specific set of old 90s Volvo cars, and there is a youtuber (Robert DIY) who does an excellent job documenting how to do maintenance on them. I have done my best to archive everything he posts, but he is just an example, as there are countless other informative tutorials and how-tos posted on YouTube.
As of now, Google has their grips on an enormous amount of practically useful data, and they know it. It’s beyond fucked, and to act like it is inconsequential or ignorable is very short sighted.
What pisses me off most is that the way the internet works now is that ten years ago, someone who wanted to share about how to service your 90s Volvo that would have written it on a web page with a few photos that would have been quicker, cheaper and easier to write, quicker and easier to read, and cost next to nothing to host.
But because Google control fucking everything, that same person is now heavily incentivized to make it a pointlessly long video instead, that took days to make and edit, and is harder to use while working, and if they don’t do that then they ain’t getting anywhere near the top of the search results and you weren’t going to find it anyway.
It sucks and I can’t wait for people to wake up and tell Google to fuck off and stop ruining the internet.
benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de
on 07 Jun 07:06
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You are absolutely right!
Knowledge is power - Google has tons of it. Not only on YouTube, but also the data they collect about every user, every click and interaction, etc.
I think the Tech-Giants have way too much power and even have some sort of monopoly. Like you said: No one has or even can recreate something like YouTube. Same with (for example) Microsoft. Even though FreeBSD, Linux Distros, OpenBSD, … gain popularity, they are nowhere near Microsoft’s Windows (or any other Product). And if you look at schools, businesses or governments, they (for some ungodly reason) use and pay for Microsoft products. Children get hooked on their Products in school!
Something has to change, I honestly don’t know what exactly, but these monopolies destroy our freedom! Maybe it would be better, if our countries had politicians, that do their work, not care about some “make America great again” shit.
ntd_quiet@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 07 Jun 16:22
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It reminds me of Reddit (human solutions/ideas for random problems and interests), except the costs of storing and serving video are probably really high with a large userbase. (I wonder exactly how high, though. I’m sure it’s hard to put a single unit price per GB/hour or whatnot, but still . . .) It’s unfortunate that so many people have put so much work into sharing their knowledge but have basically experienced vendor lock-in.
Just recently I found old reddit and forum threads and a few YouTube videos that helped me and a buddy fix her car. The solution(s) was provided by just enthusiasts and random people helping others in their spare time by documenting stuff. Although there’s also a lot of unhelpful threads and videos out there too, lol.
To keep using walled gardens like Youtube, Reddit or Discord in an effort to share and preserve knowledge is just a losing proposition. The sooner we stop using them, the less of a headache it will be when the companies behind these gardens decide it’s finally time to cash out and start to charge for access.
The knowledge you grow in a walled garden doesn’t belong to you.
Cocopanda@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 04:46
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I still use an ad blocker. They can fuck themselves in the ass. I’ll never stop.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jun 05:12
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UBlockOrigim
Lemminary@lemmy.world
on 07 Jun 07:28
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YouTube became shittier, what’s new.
moopet@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jun 08:22
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Secluded_Serenity@leminal.space
on 07 Jun 16:29
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FreeTube is fantastic. I only discovered the concept of YouTube front ends relatively recently and I am not a normie, so the likelihood of normies knowing about front ends is practically zero. Most people think that the only ways to access YouTube content are to go to the website or use the app.
I think it’s because it’s a desktop app only (for now) and most people are consuming content on handhelds? Just a theory…
Freetube does need an app. I use a fork of NewPipe called PipeBender on Android and it works most of the time but not all the time. Freetube has never failed me though.
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Premium Lite? What paid benefits are there to YouTube other than removing ads?
YouTube music. But since Lite has ads then idk what it’s different. I’m assuming Lite also doesn’t have music.
Youtube already has music.
Just pick your song and listen to it…
I remember when YouTube Music first came out it was pretty much just the audio from the videos in the most atrocious quality. Has it changed since then?
Youtube Music is pretty much just youtube with a different UI - the videos are the same. The audio quality is whatever’s uploaded, so it’ll vary a lot song to song.
Oh good, I’m not missing out then. I moved around quite a bit between Deezer, Tidal, random piracy in FLAC until finally landing on Apple Music.
I’ve resorted back to piracy, but mostly cuz my taste in music confuses the hell out of the algorithms: I’m a fan of symphonic metal, and seeding one of those songs as the start of a playlist on something like YT music will land you with a combination of heavy death metal and renaissance fair music.
If I ever find one that can actually distinguish sub-genres of metal, then sign me the fuck up!!
When I started listening to more obscure avantgarde records, I stopped believing in genres. I mean, take Mr Bungle for example. Twelve genres in four minutes. How would you even label that?
You can mix TIDAL and piracy; I use
tidal-dlquite a lot. The problem with streaming services is that they can close shop in five minutes, and all of “your” music won’t be yours anymore.(I think Apple Music has similar tools.)
What I didn’t like about Tidal was their weird format being advertised as lossless when it wasn’t. It didn’t really sound all that great.
There was an application called requiem (if I remember correctly) that could rip music from older Windows XP versions of iTunes; it was only available over Tor quite some time ago. I’m not sure what people would use these days (maybe just a [modified] DAC?).
TIDAL HiFi is FLAC as far as I know.
I had to look it up, what I was thinking of was MQA. Looks like they discontinued it last year though.
There is another benefit - it can be played in the background if I remember properly.
Lmao, what? YouTube Music is essentially Spotify with the ability to add YouTube videos to your playlists. It has an enormous music library comparable to other streaming services, it’s not “youtube with a different ui”.
…that enormous library is called “YouTube videos”.
False.
YouTube music is better than music on youtube, particularly for people with slow or capped internet.
How? I use my phone for internet and don’t have any issues.
You’re not necessarily streaming video on YT music, just audio.
In the time it takes for a video to even show up, I can have a song playing with a playlist behind it. One video is the same amount of data as many songs.
My phone is my home internet and is often under 100KB/s, even at 240p YouTube takes way longer than YouTube music.
Moderately, it’s still not as good as Play Music it replaced, and frankly the only reason I use it is because it comes with Premium (and Lite gets ads so fuck that deal), otherwise I’d subscribe to something else for music (aside from growing my album collection on Bandcamp).
I heard good things about play music but I was super pov when that existed and didn’t pay for any online stuff, it was piracy or nothing.
Thats the exact same reason I have YouTube music.
That was the reason to use Play Music when it was a thing. Upload all your torrented music and stream it for free.
I just had all the music on my phone
And it’s better for people who want to listen to more than just a few songs, for people who need an organized collections, playlists, etc. In other words, for those who need a music streaming service. YouTube isn’t one.
Premium Lite does not include access to YouTube Music - or else the ads on music videos wouldn’t be seen. (That’s the only thing i can understand on this bastardized version of a premium service)
WTF is Premium Lite?
Premium but without the music. And with ads apparently.
Before this change it was with ads for music content.
I guess it’s their “pay for ads” tier which sounds fucking stupid to me.
It’s Premium, but not really.
Premium Sike.
This is literately the equivalent of cable.
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DVR is the equivalent of having a yt-dlp frontend that includes SponsorBlock.
Can you, though? Because I remember when DVB started in Europe, they’ve sent a signal during commercials that makes your device block the fast forward feature.
I don’t know whether that’s still a thing. But you needed a hacked firmware on your TV / set top box to allow to FFWD through commercials back then.
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It will literally never end.
This is why anyone who was excusing advertising at all is part of the problem and should be seen as a useful idiot.
Stop lowering your standards so people richer than you can be even richer.
There’s one in the article comments. Talks about getting the material “dishonestly” and violating the TOS.
If they could they would only show you ads and charge you for the pleasure.
No; I don’t think there will be.
Christ, premium light is still fucking 8 dollars a month and you don’t even get rid of ads. The greed is fucking astounding.
I’ll stick to an adblocker, dickheads.
Newpipe is all I have. I signed up for a couple creators patreon to support those I really like. Fuck Google. They are here for the investors bottom line not our shit. But people just want their shit and it perpetuates this behavior. My friend said he pays to support the creators he likes. He supports the giant corporation holding these creators ransom. Just send them money directly. Use new pipe or whatever. Quit supporting this shit and let the whole thing die until we realize there has to be a better way.
Why think of the consumer when you have practical monopoly on online video content distribution. If the creators are on youtube so will their audience and vice versa. Where will any of them go if you squeeze?
Firefox+uBlock Origin on the computer.
ReVanced on my Android phone.
SmartTubeNext on my Android TV.
I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in years.
This is the way!!
I even subscribed to youtube premium when it came bundled with music streaming as well. back then it was a good deal. They kept raising prices and making the end product worse. Now it just seems obnoxious.
As of yesterday YouTube is blocking videos for me. Until that’s solved, I’m just not watching YouTube. Not a big loss.
This happens from time to time. Open a private window and sign in, or wait a couple of hours for the prompt to reset. Ublock will update in a week or so to get rid of the prompts until the next time YouTube updates the detection software.
I’ve gotten some home page ads on revanced lately, but they’ll surely be patched out soon again
In case anyone is reading this and using an iPhone, Orion is the only iOS browser afaik to currently support uBlock Origin. I haven’t had a single ad since discovering that. Picture in Picture mode works too, as long as you go full screen with the video before swiping home. Hope this helps someone.
I truly, truly don’t get it.
Ublock Origin + Firefox still works.
Works just fine.
Been that way for over a decade.
Yes, if you’re more privacy concerned (and there are good reasons to be) you can use some other browser, something like NewPipe, or Invidious…
But I just don’t get why any normie, ever, goes for YT Premium…
YouTube started detecting and complaining about that yesterday (for me).
It complained about it for me as well.
And then kept working.
I am currently crippled and basically just do PT, shitpost on lemmy, and watch youtube… all day long.
If it was gonna block me after 3 videos, it missed it by about 100.
Isn’t this because the music industry insisted on taking a cut of all YouTube shorts revenue? Like even if their songs aren’t getting played, they still rake in money from views.
Or, and hear me out: just install a browser plugin and forget ads exist.
I hesitate to name extensions names, but I’ve literally never seen an ad on YouTube.
These companies don’t respect us, so I don’t feel the need to respect them by allowing them to force their meaningless bullshit down my throat.
I don’t use it that much, but you better believe if I go to YouTube to watch a video, that video is the only thing I’m watching.
Firefox + ublock origin + sponsorblock and I haven’t seen an ad on youtube in all the years since I started that combo.
Don’t forget about ReVanced and SmartTubeNext (for smart TVs)
Yesterday evening I got a pop-up that I should disable ublock from youtube. Refreshing page got rid of that but apparently it’s time for me to run some updates on this thing. I’ve seen that few times, google changes something and as I’m a bit lazy to run updates my system sometimes gives the pop up.
This ain’t reddit. You can freely name extension names here.
uBlock Origin
Oh I know, I’ve been here for years despite the age of my account. I just migrated from lemm.ee
I tend not to like to name these types of extensions because more exposure puts them at risk, and they’re super easy to find anyway.
uBlock is already pretty much known as the best adblocker in the internet. Not sure what more exposure it could get.
It’s better to name known safe options rather than leave it up to user search. The entities that work against extensions like uBO are already well aware of their existence, so hiding their names has no benefit.
Case in point - uBlock and uBlock Origin are not the same, with the former being a bastardised version that does ‘acceptable ads’. There are plenty of other poor blocking options out there for the unsuspecting to stumble into besides that.
Personal setup is Librewolf/uBO on the client and pfBlockerNG/Snort for network level blocking/additional security layer.
And welcome to .zip :) Hope you enjoy the new home!
Thanks!
that one meme with the dude surrounded by question marks
E: or that one of Trump and another dude in chairs talking about a piece of paper
There are people out there Who don’t watch YouTube on their PC. Can’t install a browser plugin on my TV.
Well, you shouldn’t watch smart tv anyway. Shut off that slop and use your tv as a dumb tv through a computer. The other way is just asking to be exploited.
That way I won’t get DolbyVision metadata though and getting surround sound workin is a chore, also. Not to speak about comfortable control from my couch without a keyboard/mouse.
Instead, I use an appleTV. It’s ad free, supports all streaming services I need (including my jellyfin) and almost all common video, audio and HDR formats. Even supports VPNs for getting around geofencing.
Besides the initial purchase price (which is steep but there aren’t many comparable devices), not having adblock working in YouTube is really the only actual downside. And for that a few friends and I share a YT family subscription. Has the benefit of my views actually paying the creators for the content they provide me and us not having to pay the ridiculous amounts of solo subscriptions.
Would never use the integrated SmartTV feature of the vast majority of TV manufacturers (LG used to be so good before they put ads everywhere). My TV hasn’t seen an Internet connection even once.
They’re trying to block adblockers again, it seems. I got the “adblockers are not allowed” popup again recently.
Oh no… Anyways,
* Adds a filter for the pop-up*
I feel like youtube is losing sight of why users are paying for the service then.
To me, personally, youtube is useful enough that I will keep paying to remove ads entirely (in combination with ublock). That being said, there will come a time when the value proposition is no longer balanced. Then I will stop paying, and probably stop using it as well.
But as always with Google, I question whether their motive is to kill another service. They’re very competent at that specific thing.
They just want users who are paying full freight as they know the ad business is in step decline.
Is it in decline? I mean, I want to believe it, but I haven’t seen any hard data on that.
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The internet isn’t built on it. The commercial websites who do not have other products (as in all the websites related to RL goods, stores,…) are.
Exactly. If every ad-dependent website went offline tomorrow and all we were left with was Wikipedia, PeerTube, government/academia sites and a bunch of Geocities-esque “labor of love” hobbyist pages, nothing of value would be lost.
True, but my point was that even a lot of the commercial websites that do have other products do not depend on ads, e.g. Amazon and all the other stores would still be there, every company offering a paid service would still be there, every company providing a service related to their RL goods (e.g. specs, drivers, product descriptions, lists of stores where you can buy them,…) would still be there.
Advertising does not finance a very large percentage of the useful parts of the internet. And among those advertising financed websites that are useful a lot are essentially duplicates to get a chunk of the ad revenue without doing a lot of work (e.g. almost all news websites that just republish AP, Reuters,… content).
content creator on youtube had to resort to patreon, brand deals and promotion to stay afloat.
Revanced, newpipe, grayjay, it’s all I need thank you.
I used to pay Google for things back when they were pretty awesome. Haven’t paid them a dime for years now.
Y’all pay for YouTube?
I would
ofif there was a family tier that plays YouTube without ads in my country. The content I watch is good and authors deserve payment IMO. Sadly there is currently no competition, there are some marginal subscription services and there is peertube which doesn’t have monetization.The ad revenue YouTube gets should be paying the content creators, no?
Yes, sure, I just don’t want to watch ads. There is really too much of them
I agree. I guess I don’t watch YouTube enough for it to be a big burden. Just mute it for a few seconds.
If it was only few seconds. At best you can skip after 5s but then you get plenty of 15-50s ads every 5+ minutes or so with some videos. It makes it almost impossible to watch it.
I’ve had no issues with adblocker for over half a year. Works flawlessly on both browser and mobile browser.
Problem solved! I don’t need to think about this premium stuff any more. Recently, I’ve been playing with the idea of paying for premium, but that’s no longer the case. Specifically, the family pack is the one that kinda made some limited sense in the past. I can see the kind of game Google is playing, and I’m not planning to participate.
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Lul I have uBlock origin and no ads for free
My ublock origin was having issues today and I had to scale back some of the stuff being blocked.
Most of the time reloading the filters fixes uBlock Origin not working
They must be making extra effort lately. I got the “Ad blockers are prohibited” popup twice today on two systems. One Linux and one windows. Librewolf, UO and SB on both.
Was able to close popup and move on.
My uBlock Origin has been working fine on my Linux desktop running Firefox.
uBlock Origin Lite on my Chromebook, on the other hand, has gotten the “Ad blockers are prohibited” popup a couple of times.
Yup I think that’s it. I got a “you have playback issues?” popup today. Also it takes longer to load.
Maybe YouTube will push me away, but for now it’s too convenient.
Just use invidious or Newpipe if the adblock ever stops working
time to open Freetube and paste the link
I confirm that I will see zero ads.
YT is only usable with ad blockers nowadays. And then it does not make a difference if you have a subscription or not.
I would subscribe YT if they had a reasonably priced ad free tier, but if it does not make a difference, I’ll watch it for free.
That way of thinking is a trap. They did have a more reasonably priced ad free tier but people using it only made it worse over time because it got so popular that Youtube could confidently raise prices and slash benefits. And the line has to go up. That‘s the only thing that matters to them.
Genuinely though, the point of YouTube premium is to get rid of the ads…
We seem to be making cable TV again where you pay a premium for the privilege of being advertised to
YT Premium has no ads. YT Lite does, just fewer of them (supposedly).
YouTube Premium Lite is Premium, it’s in the name. I presume the OP is saying the only reason people buy Premium is to be rid of ads, therefore Lite is pointless.
I’ve long said to myself, the day revanced, smarttube and adblockers stop working is the day I stop browsing YT.
I watched my son showing me something the other day, he can’t yet login via revanced so still has ads, what a shit show.
I asked him how he copes with all the ads, he said I’m dumb to them now I just ignore it. But still coming from zero ads to that was a very jarring experience.
How does revanced work? How does it protect me from ads?
I don’t use revanced, but freetube. I guess it’s similar.
It lets you play video without ads for free. It has a ui close enough to YouTube, which is nice.
Also you watch video anonymously. So it won’t propose video based on what you have watched before. Which is nice or not… you decide.
Ah gotcha, similar to newpipe on android
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It’s an android only apk which you sideload and strips all adds from YouTube content.
I think I’m understanding the playbook here.
Eventually YouTube will cost 89.99 a month and also be full of ads.
Then they will be disrupted by some startup company that will have to fight uphill for search and bandwidth access through Google’s monopolistic front door.
Years later a court case will be decided and the new guy will be up and running a free service with a few ads or 1.99 a month for no ads!
And then we get to go through it all again.
There is no end to the greed of those with millions and especially billions and they aren’t content to just keep running a profitable business, they have to get all the money.
This is just the history of humanity and finances forever, the one saving grace in all this is every big business gets complacent in its money making and seeks ever increasing profit (and becomes management heavy) until a young upstart finds a way to do it a lot better and cheaper and disrupts the market. Google has become the big lumbering unable to change organisation seeking maximum profit now, its become IBM.
Ah, the grand circle of enshittification.
I tried watching a 30 minute video on YouTube the other day and it injected ads every 1 minute for the entire video. Fuck Google. Fuck YouTube. Fuck Alphabet.
An interesting component here is that it’s possible that the video creator is responsible for this silly level of ads, but it’s impossible to know. Creators can select points in the video where ads will happen, which they can use to preserve the video’s flow as much as possible. In theory, you can even select to not monetise your video at all, which is a useful tool if the topic is something particularly dense or sensitive. In practice, I’ve seen plenty of creators apologizing when an inappropriate ad plays at a sensitive part of the video, despite them having tried to disable ads on the video. It must suck to have so little power over one’s own work.
In your case, I suspect this was a creator choosing to maximally monetise their video, given the regularity and number of ads. However, it’s possible that this is a 100% “Fuck Google” situation, given how opaque they are. I find it frustrating that when we have poor experiences like yours, we don’t even have a clear target to get angry at. It leads to accountability so diffuse that it’s like homeopathy. Getting angry doesn’t necessarily help change things (at least individually), but it can be incredibly cathartic even then
I used to watch YouTube with ads since they added ads. It wasn’t too bad.
Then during the start of Covid tons of people watched YouTube and googles greedy eyes lit up… they went from 1-3 (skipable) ads per video to ads every minute of video. I was like WHAT THE F&$@… then installed U-block.
I couldn’t believe their greed.
I also spent Covid downloading (yt-dlp) every video I wanted to archive for offline (never know if they will someday block downloads), I’m also worried for a time we loose YouTube. 99% of the things I loved about the internet is dead now, someday it will happen to YouTube too.
Would you like to pay us and have ads?
It feels insane to me that you’re paying and you still get ads. I fucking refuse to do that
Youtube is telling me daily that they’ll soon disable my youtube because I have an ad blocker. Still waiting for it to actually happen.
I’ve been using Ublock origin for years and I’ve never seen a message like that
correct me if I’m wrong, but I think ublock origin updates quickly enough to remove these notifications before most users see them
It often does, yeah. Not always though. I got one of the adblock warnings last night, and it refused to play the video. I fixed it by heading into ublock settings and manually updating. It always makes me laugh how rapidly the ad-blocker arms war progresses
Same here. I started seeing them this week.
I don’t even login so I don’t know what they are going to disable.
Same. The last time I saw an YouTube ad was around 2015.
For your web browser, don’t use Chrome. Use Firefox with uBlock, NoScript, Sponsorblock, and a VPN like Mullvad.
For Smart TV usage, block your TV’s built in “smart functionality” and its access to the internet via MAC address blacklist on your router. Also use SmartTubeNext on a Shield Pro with FLauncher instead of Google’s.
For mobile, use 3rd party YouTube clients on your device like Vanced on Android, and Unwatched on iOS.
Same here. And I’m waiting for them to finally do it because it’ll free up so much of my time. I might start reading books again.
Also, it’s the last Google-service I’m using. So, banning me from it will allow me to finally delete my Google account.
How about we collectively say fuck youtube and move content to Odysee or something else?
I’m fine with uBlock, but wouldn’t it be better if we just kill alphabet progressively? I’m already out Gsuite (nextcloud), gmail (own server), search (duckduckgo), chrome (firefox), I dont even link my phone to a gmail account. i just need to get ride of yt.
Cable TV executives didn’t die off yet?
Youtube has ads?
🤷(github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases)
Imagine paying for “Premium Lite”
And with that I can confirm I will continue to use adblock.
Wait so you pay for premium and still get ads?
Premium light i guess. So you pay to get some ads? I don’t know
It’s a sad state of affairs. I would pay for youtube in a heartbeat if it wasn’t connected to the biggest spyware company in the world. But now, even while paying you still get ads and they still track you. The people working at Alphabet are bad and should feel bad.
That’s how they’ll convince me to pay for premium
They are really dedicated to helping foster the pirate side of the Web, aren't they?
Cable TV providers in the 70s: “No commercials when you pay for our services!”
Cable TV providers in the early 80s: “Ok, we actually meant no commercials on premium channels, but local channels will, and it’s not our fault.”
Cable TV providers in the late 80s: “Fine. What we meant was no commercials on movie channels.”
Cable TV providers in the 90s: “Uhm, so only on-demand shows will be commercial free.”
So what we need is a new disruptive media type that puts is on the head-end of the cycle again?
Nah. We need to hack the planet.
Probably 10 years until AR starts this cycle over.
Had a “youtube doesnt allow adblock” pop up yesterday, set up freetube. No login required, even has a subscription import tool. So far so great.
Had my first ones yesterday too.
I’ll use FreeTube if I have to, though I don’t quite like the UI, but cleaning the cache seems to have done the trick for now.
I haven’t run into that on any of my devices yet… 🤞🤞
What were you using before?
Ublock with firefox. Wasn’t able to set up a filter for the popup, didn’t try very hard though.
Interesting. I’m just running vanilla uBlock Origin, never got a popup. I suppose we’ll see what happens…
wtf is premium lite?!!? Lmao
it’s the opposite of Economy Plus
Oh so you pay to be abused, gotcha.
I’d love to see a transition to other platforms like Nebula. As users it would be nice to start choosing by principles too.
Adblock/revanced are working. Google’s ad revenue is getting squeezed and so they need to shoehorn more ads everywhere to get the same revenue levels, since so many people never see the ads.
Keep using them. You’re making business really difficult for scummy Google.
Adblock, maybe a noticeable fraction on desktop, but Revanced users are within a rounding error of the total users, surely?
I feel like both populations are now dwarfed by the numbers watching YT on their TV’s built-in apps, which throw demented amounts of ads at you.
I’m dating this person and we were watching YT and she didn’t have any ad blocker up and I was fucking blown away
Some of us use NewPipe. 🤷♂️
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The $ revenue share to creators per video view has dropped, even though the percentage of Google’s ad revenue shared with the creator has remained the same. So to me this means Google is earning less per video view. (That could also be just a result of the ad market in general collapsing, eg advertisers just pay less)
Also, Google has added new requirements to get the video share. You need to post new videos at a regular cadence, or they kick you out–even if your old videos are still getting views. (began being enforced in 2023, I think). Its another way they can keep their revenue numbers looking OK by cutting a cost associated with older videos.
Google has also escalated their efforts to make it more difficult to view content without also viewing the ads.
So maybe its wishful thinking, but I think they are feeling the squeeze.
Unfortunately unlike the reddit or twitter situations its significantly harder to accumulate enough fresh video content to attract the views necessary to get the ball rolling and make a shift away from YouTube.
freetube still works great! no ads, and an easy to use interface.
And it has an Android fork (FreeTube Android), and can have playlists, subscriptions etc. synced across devices with Syncthing. It does sometimes result in sync conflicts though, but if you reload it before using it on a device, you will be fine. Most sync conflicts I get are for history, and that’s fine by me to lose some history.
Common People, Black Mirror Season 7
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Oh fuck odd Google. Literally the only reason I was paying for your crap videos is so I could play music on my TV uninterrupted.
LMAO
Super tube next on android tvs, free tube for android
Damn, you pay and still get ads? Does that count as findom? Like it feels very cucky, doesn’t it?
It’s like cable TV, pay $100+/mo just to watch ads
Also starting to spread on the cheapest plans of streaming services like Prime and Netflix.
YouTube already had too many ads, and I stopped using as a result. That was several months ago. I guess I’ll just have to stop using it even harder.
Because the fucking line must go fucking up! the large hot forks should be going up the CEOs and investors asses instead!
Edit: Guys. I think a lot of you missed where I said EASIEST METHODS.
Easiest methods to ditch Youtube ads:
For those who may have heard about Pi-hole and are wondering why it’s not on this list: PI-HOLE DOES NOT BLOCK YOUTUBE ADS. IT NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL.
Can I block youtube ads with a transparent proxy like squid ? What about a self-hosted youtube auto-downloading queue list ? I’m fine with .mp4 files !
I haven’t tried that, so I’m not entirely sure. I just focused on the easy methods that most people will gravitate towards.
Try it and let us know what you find!
Sounds like
yt-dlp. Lots of people use that to get around ads, and also for data hoarding.I think it is extremely hard because they are served from the same servers (technically, ads are YouTube videos)
And if the logic on the client isn’t removed, it will hang waiting for the ad
I’m curious for something more sophisticated that dns blocks. Something that modifies the content on the fly like, ublock, dark reader and sponsorblock.
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Revanced still Relies on G services
Also, Theres this very unknown app Called Freetube for all plattforms or newpipe for Android
Revanced uses microG, which is optional. I also mentioned that these were the easiest methods. But, you’re absolutely right in that there are plenty of other methods to choose from.
I tried Freetube for a while, but it just never works. An actual coin flip each day whether or not anything would load at all. I got so tired of it I just went back to Youtube, as I’ve only ever seen one single ad in my entire time using uBlock Origin on Librewolf.
Google is constantly making changes that break it, the developers fix them quickly… but if your distro doesn’t keep the newest version in their repo then you’d have to install it from their git repo.
Generally they have a patch for any breaking changes within the day.
If you want to give it a try again, get mpv and yt-dlp installed in your system then activate from Freetube settings the external player button, which you’ll be able to click from search or from a vid page
I use it consistently with few issues. Once in a while, usually on Thursdays (when it seems YT rolls out changes), something breaks, but the devs are quick to fix it. The last issue I experienced was when YT transitioned to SABR, and it was out for a day or two before they had things working again. I am at least perfectly capable of going without for a day once every two months.
It’s also one of the projects I’ve used to learn more about how fixes are worked on in FOSS. I will typically run nightly builds also - I find it pretty cool to follow an issue and once they push a fix I can instantly grab that fresh build without waiting for it to be packaged.
Android, option 3 (Better): newpipe from fdroid. 0% algorithmic feed, exclusively show who you’re following, in chronological order
How does Newpipe work? It feels too good to be free.
Miracles
Mac also has the excellent Orion Browser where you can install uBlock origin
Yeah, this will work for a while but I think the days have gotta be numbered.
Best long term solution? Leave YouTube.
I guess in the meantime: if on PC grab the freetube flatpak. Really decent client, anonymous and create subscriptions without actually subscribing.
You can also use the Orion browser with Ublock Origin on iPhone.
I use IgeBlock on Android. It has the banner ads, but not the video ads, so it’s pretty good if you don’t wanna deal with Revanced
uBlock on mobile Firefox gets rid of all the ads though.
That, and Revanced isn’t difficult to set up, you don’t even need root:
And you’re done. Update once every 6-12 months or so.
No Grayjay? Been using that almost exclusively since they released the desktop version. Had to log out and back in with my (new, basically blank) YT account a few times after updates, and there are very rare cases of certain videos not wanting to load, but overall it’s been working well so far.
When options like uBlock and FreeTube no longer block ads, I’ll stop watching YouTube. They’ll never get a cent out of me.
If it weren’t Google, I wouldn’t be against paying. Fuck Google.
if ublock origin stops working, you can erase your youtube cookies or wait a few hours for a ublock origin update to work around it.
Ironic that just yesterday I was getting blocked on youtube telling me that adblocking was illegal/against tos/whatever and that if i didnt want Ads I could subscribe to Youtube Premium… only now to announce ads on premium.
What a fucking shithole company.
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and they continue to take no accountability for failing to police their own ads, thus creating the essential need for adblocking services in the first place.
WE WOULDNT BE BLOCKING ADS IF YOU REGULATED ADVERTISERS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO REGULATE VIEWERS.
I still would.
I would actually pay for YT premium if it was reasonably priced and I think there are many like me. Why are they shooting themselves in the foot?
If you use yt music and watch YouTube as your main entertainment, it’s well worth it imo.
With that said, I’ve been degoogling and this is probably the one I won’t be able to break.
Same here. YT is the only Google owned service I still use. I personally don’t mind the cost, since I watch a lot and wish to support the people that make the content. I would love a proper alternative but I don’t see that happen any time soon.
Yeah, rumble seems like the only viable alternative and they got lambasted for hosting so much right wing conspiracy nuts when it first launched lol
it’s not like the rightwing conspiracy nuts just showed up and Rumble got unfairly stuck with a bad reputation - Rumble is based in the same offices as Trump Media / Truth Social, conspiracy nuts are the whole intent from the start.
another alternative is Nebula.tv
Oh boy, well yikes nvm lol
Don’t forget Peertube, which is a part of fedi
I actually paid for it for a bit after I got a few months free with a Pixel a while ago. And it was pretty good and reasonably priced.
Then they started removing features (no dislike bar for you lol) and raising the price and I’m never giving them a single goddamn cent or not using a block on their shit.
I’ve since cancelled and transitioned from workspace or whatever they call it now and use Revanced, ublock origin, etc. They actually had my money and they fucked it. Never again. Get fucked, Google and the shit huffing execs in charge of it.
It’s never enough for these people. They want all of your money and they won’t stop until they have it. Fucking blood suckers.
I’ll never pay for until until 1. It’s reasonably priced, 2. Downvotes are returned and 3 sponsor block is integrated into the app.
Sponsor block is not going to be included as those are not controlled by YouTube. They are the Chanel’s sponsorship.
Well they need to do something because those sponsor segments are fucking ads.
They do have chapters which could allow creators to separate sponsor ads into a skippable segments. Some of them even actually do it.
It should be a requirement if they are being paid by Youtube
Can I add 4. the integrated video downloader actually downloads videos, in whatever format you would want, and with no internet connection required to watch them. This to me is still the biggest scam ‘feature’ of Youtube Premium. You can ‘’‘download’‘’ videos, but not as eg. an mp4, but as an encrypted file only playable inside the Youtube app, and only if you connected to the internet in the last couple of days can you play it.
That’s not downloading, that’s just jacking my disk space to avoid buffering the video from Youtube’s servers. That’s not a feature, that’s me paying for Youtube’s benefit.
I cancelled and haven’t paid for Premium in years because of it. When someone scams me out of features I paid for, I don’t reward that shit until they either stop lying in their feature list, or actually start delivering.
Holy shit, I didn’t even know about that bullshit. Yea that definitely makes the list.
Because of the desire for infinite growth. The line must go up 💹
Same. They should have a lower tier where your first N hours of watch time have no ads. I don’t watch a ton, so that would probably convince me to pay.
Why? Greed.
And they’re not even shy about it.
I made this comment some time ago on another thread about YouTube ads.
With the sheer number of concurrent users, worldwide, 24/7, YouTube could show one ad every three or four videos, and still make a mind boggling amount of money.
But if some money is good, more must be better, right?
To remove ads subscribe to Youtube Premium Platinum Plutonium and select the Ad-Free! add-on (for only an additional $2.95/mo)*.
*promotional first-month price only; increases after 30 days to regular rate of $5.95/mo **
**with annual subscription only; per-month rate $7.95/mo ***
*** with VIP subscription only; regular rate $11.95/mo.
####These terms of service can only be updated by GOOGLE at anytime with or without notice. You hearby agree to this term of service and, any and all updates, without review, made by GOOGLE to the terms of service.####
*By enabling the VIP package in addition, we guarantee to not update the TOS more than once every second.
**for now. Until we change our mind. We reserve the right to change our minds at any point and without notice.
Or use stube on android tv and recanced on phones. One of the reasons I can’t go to iOS.
I had to go iOS because of… reasons,but you can sideload modded youtube app, with sponsorblock. exactly as on android,but with many headaches like token expiry every week and other bullshit issues like google not allowing IPAs directly in github repos.
Lame, but it can be done.
Oh good, we’re not up to having to provide bone marrow (yet).
Wait, so I was right?
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I’m never going to pay to see ads in my life. Nope.
Sadly I do so every week when going to the cinema
I haven’t gone to a movie in like… 10 years probably. Ha…
Yeah, horrible innit? When I used to go to the cinema as a kid in the 70s and 80s, you’d get maybe ten minutes of trailers before your film. And I never minded that, I don’t dislike watching trailers. These days, totally different. Last time I went to the cinema there was maybe half an hour of ads. Some trailers, but mostly just advertisements for crap.
It is so fuckin disrespectful to their customers. If I wanted to see all that bullshit, I could have stayed home and watched it on TV. Except I don’t watch TV because the experience is so poor - largely because of ads.
I understand that cinemas have been struggling ever since covid, even before, and I understand that advertising revenue pays the bills. But cinema isn’t cheap, for me it’s an occasional treat when there’s something I really wanna see on the big screen. I do not want to spend that much money and get treated like a fuckin farm animal being fed crap. Wankers.
I can’t be alone in feeling this way, who wants to pay to see ads? Who thinks that sounds like a great evening out? It ruins the experience, and it’s insulting, by the time the movie starts I’m angry. I’d rather pay a bit more and just have a couple of trailers.
I recently went to a small autonomous cinema with a mate and saw Mulholland Drive. Great experience, comfy seats, could bring in drinks from the bar, no fuckin ads. But for new films there aren’t many options. So I don’t often go to the cinema.
Sorry for this long and bitter diatribe! You just hit on something that really pisses me off too.
I’ve started to go 15-20 minutes late. I’ve never missed a minute of movie, but I’ve skipped so many ads.
Go 20 minutes late my dude
That’ll be the one movie they decide to show no prescreening ads lol
That happened to me once. I think it was I Heart Huckabees. It started and people were so confused. I half think David O Russel asked them to do it to throw people off.
I’m self-hosting Invidious… I get a nice, free YouTube experience without ever visiting YouTube.
Wasn’t aware of this, that’s awesome. Unfortunately it would need to be able to cast to various HTPCs and be easy enough for my family to use to fully replace YouTube in my house.
get ublock or revanced
I keep noticing people in this thread recommending UBlock Origin, with others replying that they eventually got a popup to turn off their adblocker.
This is usually followed by replies mentioning they just click X (or add a UBlock filter on the popup), and go on with watching Youtube. No problem, right?
According to Ublock Origin’s Redd*t Post, that is just the first warning stage; eventually the presentation of their anti-adblock message becomes more intrusive until you receive the “The in-player message. Playback is stopped.”
I should know. I get that message on any Youtube video (while logged in), and it doesn’t go away for several hours.
That said, my workaround (extremely hacky) was to find the RSS feeds for all of my channel subscriptions, and then add them to FreshRSS. That section of my RSS feed essentially acts like a Youtube subscription page, but not tied to an actual account.
On my computer: I watch them in a private browser Firefox profile I’ve dedicated solely to Youtube (and has all of the extensions already installed, of course).
On Android: I watch them using NewPipe.
Edit: In addition, I store my “watch later” links using Linkding, which was easy to setup. While I do see reply suggestions on how to get rid of the popup, I think it’s better (for the long term) to have an independent way to consume Youtube. While Youtube currently implements a 4 stage system, they could always add another stage or make the current one more strict.
I think my approach requires more set up work (and probably introduces more friction) compared to reply suggestions, but overall is more resistant to future updates to Youtube’s nagging system.
Ublock orgins on Firefox has worked for me so far on both pc and mobile. No warnings.
I do also have umatrix on pc, but I can’t really recommend it for everyone since it requires some setup on every web page which most people would find too annoying.
Previously I had the warnings until uBlock killed them. Only one has made it through in recent times, we’ll see how things keep going.
if this happens to me I just won’t watch youtube anymore. It’s mostly garbage content anyway.
Ubo and ff mobile: I got the warning for the first time yesterday. Closed ff completely and it went back to normal. I also run pihole too, so maybe a mix of them together has kept my account ‘safe’ still. And I’m still yt freemium. FF mobile with desktop site enabled allows for audio play back with screen off btw.
Even quicker fix: logout.
Admittedly i’m not a huge youtube watcher, but since logging out there’s not a single damned nag when i run a marathon
Same. I use it in a dedicated Firefox container, so if I ever get a nag, I’ll clear the cores all cookies in that container and I assume that’ll reset whatever that is.
i dont log in, for the purposes of google gathering more data about you. and also i would get in the habit of commenting on videos, which i dont do anymore.
Why are you censoring the word reddit? Is that a joke?
Why bother to pay if you’re just going to get ads anyway
<gangster> It would be a shame if you were not to pay and had more ads than content. </gangster>
We have network television at home.
YouTube has so many ads now it’s ridiculous. Yesterday YouTube threatened me with the popup even though I have UBlock on Firefox. I’ve seen 10 ads on a 20 minute video. As if the un-skipabble 2 minute long ads that pause when you switch tabs wasn’t bad enough, YouTube is now putting ads in their Premium.
YouTube is in dire need of a big competitor and fast.
Yeah. Lately in 20min chunks I’ve been getting about 4 ad breaks, so if it’s an hour+ in length…
And some of those ‘ads’ are 3min, 5min…one was almost 2hrs! Yes, there’s the skip button, but if it’s that long then it’s not an ad and it has no place in an ad break.
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They will always want you to watch more ads. Doesn’t matter that you literally pay them not to. Manipulating your purchase habits is more profitable than your subscription is because your tolerance for ads sets the amount they can sell.
I’ve recently been getting warning notices on Firefox that “AdBlockers are not allowed on YouTube!” I laugh and continue on.
i actually never got that from youtube, im using ubo, and other adblockers too.
Never seen it and I’m just using ubo
yup, it would be an onslaught of ads if ever stopped using it for 1 second. i done that a couple times to support some content creators a couple time, never again.
Well, I’m still happy that my grandfathered $7.99 plan from the GPM days still holds up, fully ad-free.
Watch your card on file. I had the whole enchalada once and loved using the music app and no ads. Card expired for one payment, sub cancelled, and I fixed it immediately. They wouldn’t give it back to me, and refused to refund the larger payment for just Youtube.
Youtube ads? I have no clue what you’re talking about…
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As all decent people do.
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At least you appreciated my joke!
Wait. I pay for YouTube with my time, the most important resource I have access to. There’s a level where you pay money and STILL SEE ADS?
I pay money to ride on the bus and still see ads there.
And you should not. But perhaps you would not want the fares to rise?
The bus doesn’t stop when you look at an ad.
Try harder.
No time like the present to begin creating a European alternative, given the geopolitics of the times.
Please support peertube, it’s kind of like the Lemmy of streaming videos in that it’s a federated collection of providers.
A list of instances: https://joinpeertube.org/instances
e.g. peertube.tv
Youtube has ads? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
All the people saying “I’ll just stop using it, no big loss,” are you only using YouTube for fun? Have you never needed to pass a class, prep for a job, work on a house, learn a skill using it?
It is such a large repository of human knowledge that is so far not widely replicated anywhere else. I rely on it for learning skills to provide for my family, as far as learning other useful abilities.
For example, YouTube taught me how to service my own vehicles. I have a specific set of old 90s Volvo cars, and there is a youtuber (Robert DIY) who does an excellent job documenting how to do maintenance on them. I have done my best to archive everything he posts, but he is just an example, as there are countless other informative tutorials and how-tos posted on YouTube.
As of now, Google has their grips on an enormous amount of practically useful data, and they know it. It’s beyond fucked, and to act like it is inconsequential or ignorable is very short sighted.
What pisses me off most is that the way the internet works now is that ten years ago, someone who wanted to share about how to service your 90s Volvo that would have written it on a web page with a few photos that would have been quicker, cheaper and easier to write, quicker and easier to read, and cost next to nothing to host.
But because Google control fucking everything, that same person is now heavily incentivized to make it a pointlessly long video instead, that took days to make and edit, and is harder to use while working, and if they don’t do that then they ain’t getting anywhere near the top of the search results and you weren’t going to find it anyway.
It sucks and I can’t wait for people to wake up and tell Google to fuck off and stop ruining the internet.
You are absolutely right!
Knowledge is power - Google has tons of it. Not only on YouTube, but also the data they collect about every user, every click and interaction, etc.
I think the Tech-Giants have way too much power and even have some sort of monopoly. Like you said: No one has or even can recreate something like YouTube. Same with (for example) Microsoft. Even though FreeBSD, Linux Distros, OpenBSD, … gain popularity, they are nowhere near Microsoft’s Windows (or any other Product). And if you look at schools, businesses or governments, they (for some ungodly reason) use and pay for Microsoft products. Children get hooked on their Products in school!
Something has to change, I honestly don’t know what exactly, but these monopolies destroy our freedom! Maybe it would be better, if our countries had politicians, that do their work, not care about some “make America great again” shit.
It reminds me of Reddit (human solutions/ideas for random problems and interests), except the costs of storing and serving video are probably really high with a large userbase. (I wonder exactly how high, though. I’m sure it’s hard to put a single unit price per GB/hour or whatnot, but still . . .) It’s unfortunate that so many people have put so much work into sharing their knowledge but have basically experienced vendor lock-in.
Just recently I found old reddit and forum threads and a few YouTube videos that helped me and a buddy fix her car. The solution(s) was provided by just enthusiasts and random people helping others in their spare time by documenting stuff. Although there’s also a lot of unhelpful threads and videos out there too, lol.
To keep using walled gardens like Youtube, Reddit or Discord in an effort to share and preserve knowledge is just a losing proposition. The sooner we stop using them, the less of a headache it will be when the companies behind these gardens decide it’s finally time to cash out and start to charge for access.
The knowledge you grow in a walled garden doesn’t belong to you.
I still use an ad blocker. They can fuck themselves in the ass. I’ll never stop.
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YouTube became shittier, what’s new.
“Premium lite”? What is this doublespeak?
I hope more and more people learn that spotify can also be used to host videos.
Wut? 4 real?
They have clips from songs, so yes, I guess. I’m not sure if anyone can host a video there though.
Veritasium hosts videos there now
Why has no one heard of FREETUBE!?!?!?
FreeTube is fantastic. I only discovered the concept of YouTube front ends relatively recently and I am not a normie, so the likelihood of normies knowing about front ends is practically zero. Most people think that the only ways to access YouTube content are to go to the website or use the app.
I think it’s because it’s a desktop app only (for now) and most people are consuming content on handhelds? Just a theory…
Freetube does need an app. I use a fork of NewPipe called PipeBender on Android and it works most of the time but not all the time. Freetube has never failed me though.
remember when paying removed ads? crazy i know. no subs ever.
The ads will continue until morale improves.
Firefox and UBlock origine.
Why would I pay for premium if it doesn’t remove the ads? It’s like they don’t do market research and just make shit up.