All three game console makers, Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony, have now abandoned X (formerly Twitter) integration (www.theverge.com)
from ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 15:05
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[deleted] on 11 Jun 15:07 next collapse

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9point6@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 17:12 next collapse

$42,000 a month

Fucks sake

Katana314@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 18:31 collapse

Interesting that X only pays you that much to include their integratio-

Oh, they want YOU to pay THEM…!?

autotldr@lemmings.world on 11 Jun 15:10 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The integration was removed as part of the Nintendo Switch’s 18.1.0 update, taking away the ability for users to link their X account with the console, or post in-game screenshots from Super Smash Bros.

The removal of these features comprised the majority of the 18.1.0 update, which also includes some general stability improvements and ditches support for linking social media accounts via the Switch’s Friend Suggestions feature.

Nintendo announced these changes last month but didn’t explicitly state the reason for pulling support for X.

Given Switch users can still share their content to Facebook, it likely has something to do with pricing changes to the X API which now starts at $42,000 a month for enterprise customers.

Microsoft didn’t mention X’s API update when it removed the ability for Xbox consoles to share game uploads to the service last April, nor did Sony when it followed suit in November for the PS5 and PS4.

Cost may not be the only factor as Slack said it had also pulled support because the API updates impacted the functionality of its own X integration, but regardless of the reason, console gamers will now have a hard time connecting directly with the platform.


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itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com on 11 Jun 15:11 next collapse

Ha ha! Fuck you Elon. Way to make your shitty platform irrelevant faster.

[deleted] on 11 Jun 15:30 next collapse

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iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 15:36 next collapse

I would be interested to know how much of Twitter’s use was from these integrations. This could be an absolute drop in the bucket.

otp@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 15:45 next collapse

You’re likely right. At the same time, consoles integrating Twitter made it look more legitimate, like a part of people’s daily lives. Twitter’s legitimacy continues to decline.

missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 15:59 collapse

I used this exclusively to get screenshots off my switch easily. Still very happy about bigger companies cutting ties with the muskrat.

doctordevice@lemmy.ca on 11 Jun 17:32 collapse

Getting screenshots or videos off the Switch is laughably arcane. Nintendo is so weird about modern tech conveniences.

queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 21:01 collapse

It took Nintendo years to enable Bluetooth on the switch. The same tech the pro controller and joycons use. Years. Modders had it nearly day one of opening the console.

How do I get a screenshot to my phone?

  • Turn off WiFi, enable it to make a temp local wifi, scan a QR code. Then open a web page and download them.

PlayStation and Xbox:

  • You can just upload them to the network you already pay for, or put them on a flash drive.
missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 21:15 collapse

Steam Deck: Syncthing automatically sends them to my computer :)

queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 22:21 collapse

Syncthing is a god sent tool. Maybe I should use it for that if I can on my Xbox and Switch. I know I can for steam screenshots.

DreamAccountant@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 15:37 next collapse

Nobody wants to do business with unstable nazis.

Devdogg@lemmy.ml on 11 Jun 16:18 next collapse

Nobody wants to do business with unstable nazis.

barsquid@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:23 next collapse

How I wish that were true.

samus12345@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:51 next collapse

Any company that appeals to conservatives loves to do business with Nazis.

Tja@programming.dev on 11 Jun 17:31 next collapse

Nah, plenty of people want to do business with nazis. Unfortunately.

Rinox@feddit.it on 11 Jun 18:27 next collapse

More like

Nobody wants to do business with unstable nazis people

Plenty of businesses ready and willing to do business with stable (and rich) Nazis, dictators and slavers. Look at the line of people and businesses more than ready to make deals with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, China, etc

If you are rich and have a stable government, there’s no amount of human rights violations and genocides stopping corrupt fuckers from trying to make deals with you and profit.

LillyPip@lemmy.ca on 12 Jun 22:06 collapse

Five people here think Nazi business is fine. Yikes.

e: wait, 6.

e2: hey guys! Lemmy doesn’t have vote fuzzing yet! (just noticing. there’s no conspiracy here … or is there?)

db2@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 17:04 next collapse

There are stable ones?

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 17:29 collapse

There are stable geniuses, but I want nothing to do with them.

urska@lemmy.ca on 12 Jun 21:09 collapse

moooom I’m seeing Nazis everywhere again

Lmao

Sanctus@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 15:37 next collapse

Worse by every metric. “The Wealthiest Man in the World’s Crisis Purchase Putrifies”

RaoulDook@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 15:41 next collapse

And nothing of value was lost. I can’t imagine ever wanting to read a tweet from somebody’s console game.

billiam0202@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 15:58 next collapse

The point was to be able to send clips from your games directly to social media.

RaoulDook@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:02 collapse

Right, that seems obvious. That’s what I was talking about being of no value. Nobody needs to watch anyone’s console game clips on Twitter.

jettrscga@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:19 next collapse

But what if they’re riding a horse and the horse does something silly? What then?

barsquid@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:24 next collapse

I do enjoy seeing a horse rocketing off into the stratosphere or using the skeletal animation from a bipedal NPC.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 17:32 collapse

No one believes me, but I actually got pretty close to the horse in very far away horse, but no tweets to prove it unfortunately.

elvith@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 Jun 16:18 next collapse

Nobody needs to watch anyone’s console game clips on Twitter.

FTFY

bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 16:24 next collapse

I get we hate Twitter and rightfully so, but you really don’t see the value for a direct pipeline from consoles to a major social media platform?

People watching other people play video games (streaming, esports, etc) is a multi-billion dollar industry lol

atocci@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:35 next collapse

Yeah sharing fun clips or a screenshot from a game you’re playing seems as valid as posting any other video or picture you’ve taken to social media.

bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 16:50 collapse

The headache of moving it from console -> phone/computer as well. Too many steps usually.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jun 19:59 collapse

The switch does it really weirdly too.

You have to disconnect from wifi so it can create it’s own hotspot, you connect your phone to that connection, then it hosts a little web server where you can open it up and download your shit.

I mean I guess it’s better than xbox or playstations method which I honestly have no figured out yet. Not that I’ve really tried.

mark3748@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 20:08 next collapse

I mean I guess it’s better than xbox or playstations method which I honestly have no figured out yet.

Yeah, way better than… selecting the share button(?)

bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 20:56 next collapse

I share off my Xbox with one tap of a button on my controller. It’s not very complicated lol

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jun 21:03 collapse

Upload to what though? I want it on my phone or my computer.

atocci@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 15:40 collapse

They go to cloud storage for 90 days. You can then save it locally from the Xbox website or app.

queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 20:56 collapse

Switch and Xbox here: Xbox can do clips and screenshots, and upload to social media with one button.

It can also send all the clips and photos to an external storage device, which is what I do so it’s easy to sync clips for making edits of them for videos and jokes.

Nintendo feels so bizarre in how they handle the screenshots. “Here’s a dedicated screenshot button! Good luck sending this to anyone not on Facebook or Twitter!”

When there’s third party apps and programs to make the job of Nintendo and it’s fans easier, they fucked up.

sbv@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 16:57 collapse

I think there are much better social media platforms for sharing clips. From what I’ve seen, most of Twitter is people angrily typing opinions at each other, so your target demographic may not be there. The UI is designed for text rather than video, and responses/reactions don’t integrate nicely with videos.

Sharing game clips on video-oriented social media makes a tonne sense, however.

bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 17:25 collapse

Remember, this was established over a decade ago with the PS4/Xbone. It was a very different landscape then.

Regardless Twitter or not, the use case for console -> social media seems pretty clear to me

FrozenHandle@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz on 12 Jun 02:56 collapse

Also Nintendo and Sony are Japanese companies and Twitter is (or was? I stopped using Twitter even before it was sold, so I am not quite up to date) insanely popular in Japan, that’s most likely the reason why it’s Twitter.

MataVatnik@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 17:44 collapse

My brother lives far away from me. Sometimes he uploads game play directly from his PS5 onto YouTube and I get a notification. Don’t necessarily watch it for the content but it’s nice to see his clips pop 9n my feed.

dditty@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 17:24 collapse

Some ppl used the Twitter integration to export screenshots from their Nintendo Switch since it didn’t require USB or MTP

Flaky@lemmy.zip on 11 Jun 17:49 collapse

jesus christ how horrifying… then again, the 3DS used SMB and I doubt people knew how to set it up beyond techy types (or people who want to run an exploit)

ObamaBinLaden@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 15:59 next collapse

You’re reading too much into this. I’m sure it was because of lack of usage

Evotech@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:03 next collapse

Yeah can’t be become it’s 42k usd a month for th api npw

shininghero@pawb.social on 11 Jun 16:11 next collapse

According to the article, Twitter is also charging $42,000 minimum for enterprise access. That’s over $500k per year. If I was a Nintendo employee, I would not only cut that expense, but also use it as leverage for a massive end of year bonus.

ramble81@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 17:11 collapse

use it as leverage for a massive end of year bonus.

Hahahahaha. Right. Like saving the company any money comes back as a bonus to the person. Best we can do is a shitty award on slightly thicker 8.5”x11” paper.

queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 20:58 collapse

I know a decent amount of friends who use(d) Twitter to share moments and screenshots of after-game reports and random “aint this wild?” Moments.

And Splatoon on Switch got a big bonus from the memes the sharing enabled due to user generated content.

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 15:59 next collapse

They should stop posting company business on Twitter, too.

aeronmelon@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:13 next collapse

Where’s @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world with a Riker trombone pic when you need them?

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:43 collapse

Here ya go. I normally only do a Riker in News communities.

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queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 20:57 next collapse

I love this recurring post. Please keep it up.

aeronmelon@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 23:27 collapse

Technology isn’t news?? 😩

njm1314@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 17:05 next collapse

Good. Frankly at this point if you’re still on on Twitter I think it’s suspicious.

blindbunny@lemmy.ml on 11 Jun 17:40 next collapse

Long past that point… If your not on mastodon I don’t really care what you have to say. Bluesky is just another capitalist platform used to motize working class people’s content.

I’ve oddly seen lemmy posts on mastodon lately and it kinda secured to me this is the real “web 3.0”

Kecessa@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 18:01 next collapse

If you’re on social media I don’t really care what you have to say, if it was anything important it would be in traditional medias.

blindbunny@lemmy.ml on 11 Jun 18:08 collapse

🙄 what a brain dead take. Why didn’t you go with, “nobodies idea has any value unless they get paid to said it” fuck your stupid ass hierarchy.

elephantium@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 18:16 collapse

Whoosh!

blindbunny@lemmy.ml on 11 Jun 18:56 collapse

Obviously 😅

JoYo@lemmy.ml on 11 Jun 20:32 collapse

nah, this is how the web was always designed to work.

BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 21:08 next collapse

Why? I have an account because I follow about a dozen people I’d like to see the updates for. I don’t post or search around. Some journalist and sports people. Just because someone you don’t like owns it doesn’t mean anyone who uses it is a piece of shit or whatever. It’s still functionally the same for a lot of functions. Do I use it as much as I used to? No. But I haven’t seen anything worse there than I did at Reddit or here.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 21:41 next collapse

When you describe someone else’s grievance as “someone you don’t like” or “says something you think is bad”, you’re adding an implication that the actual reason is irrelevant. It makes it look like you don’t understand the reason at best, or are deliberately minimizing it at worst.

“If there’s a Nazi at the table and ten other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with eleven Nazis.”

BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 21:59 collapse

Nice straw man

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 23:29 collapse

Just because you don’t like my reply…

BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 23:58 collapse

No it’s because you brought up shit I’m not talking about. I just mean someone might use something for a purpose despite what the owner of the the thing is. I hate Elon Musk, I think he’s a garbage person. But so is most large company owners. There’s still some people that I follow that use it so I’ll use it. It was a sess pool outside certain communities before musk, and it will be now too. Just like Facebook, tiktok, Reddit etc, everything has objectionable content and harmful content by somebody. And every platform has moderation.

frostysauce@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 23:59 next collapse

You made a coherent argument as to why you use a service, specific to yourself. You get downvoted for doing so. Never change, lemmy.

…Or, perhaps, do change. Y’all can still sniff your own farts if y’all pull y’all’s heads slightly out of your asses.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 02:25 next collapse

Given this choice, I’m confident Lemmy will double down, every time.

Aceticon@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 12:02 collapse

I remember when I was a kid, at some point in early highschool we had a colleague who was a bit dumb and had blond hair (in a country were that’s pretty rare) so he was commonly bullied and called “piss head” and I did join on the bullying once or twice.

Still to this day I sometimes think of it and feel guilty of, even as a kid myself, having been an asshole to that kid simply to feel I was part of the group.

Sometimes I have the impression that even here in Lemmy a lot of supposedly adults either were always assholes and will always be so, or didn’t go through that part of maturing were you figure out that pilling up on somebody just to be “one of the crowd” isn’t exactly a mature adult thing to do.

Or maybe I’m just overeading it or projecting.

debil@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 05:57 collapse

I’m sure you’re not a piece of shit, but by still having a Twitter account equals to supporting the platform and its owner (a proven piece of shit). Even if you’re not giving it any traffic by being logged in or following users (which you’re doing), you’d be giving it your support.

By unfollowing your sports people and quitting the shithole altogether you’re sending a clear message that the platform is dying (it’s already dead for many) and it’s high time for people to find alternatives.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 02:27 collapse

Twitter has a pretty solid metal (music) community that I’ve come to know and appreciate over time. We share new bands, our opinions on albums, all that good stuff.

Not everything has to be related to politics. People aren’t “suspicious” because they don’t share all your views.

njm1314@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 08:16 next collapse

Metal bands that hang out on the Nazi website? Okay.

PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 12:24 next collapse

“Nazi” website lol. Ok buddy.

BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 21:14 collapse

I hate to break this too you but there’s Nazi bullshit on every platform.

___@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 13:01 collapse

This is problem with platform lock in. Be it discord, X, FB groups, Reddit. Communities form and then fragment as the members who realize there are better open options leave.

The users of the web have enough desktop and laptop cpu cycles to spare for passing a few decentralized messages around without killing battery life or performance. We don’t need these experience degrading/dehumanizing ad platforms to underpin our internet. That’s just a narrative peddled by companies who aim to make obscene profit on top of their already obscene profits.

TORFdot0@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 17:17 next collapse

They all have ways to send screenshots to the mobile apps if I’m not mistaken and with Twitter jacking up API prices since Elon took over, it makes perfect sense just to discontinue support

Shardikprime@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 17:41 next collapse

I mean 50k per license por console seems insane

vithigar@lemmy.ca on 11 Jun 21:02 collapse

I haven’t used the PlayStation or Xbox ones, but the Switch mobile device media transfer is remarkably awkward to use. The Switch will broadcast an ad hoc SSID which you can connect a device to and then hit a web server hosted by the Switch to get your pictures. As if that wasn’t already kind of awkward lots of phones will fight you on connecting to the SSID because it doesn’t have an internet gateway, so they consider it a bad connection and just automatically switch back to mobile data.

MintyAnt@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 23:35 collapse

It is classic Nintendo, to have some annoying awkward system for a thing that has been already done well for years.

I recall being baffled by the Wii friend code system when Xbox live was so clearly better in every way

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml on 11 Jun 18:22 next collapse

Is it happening??

rob200@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jun 20:07 next collapse

I think that by having all major console makers abandoning Twitter, that it will keep Twitter / X away from the majority of the younger generations. (which I think would be a good things for those wanting to protect your kids from the content that’s allowed to free spread on there.)

Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 20:23 next collapse

You really think kids use consoles, to access social media, more than phones, and tablets?

Nelots@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 20:30 next collapse

Perhaps, with them no longer being able to easily upload clips to twitter from consoles, they’ll be less inclined to participate on twitter. I agree it’s not going to change much, though. I wonder how many people were even using this built-in integration anyway?

rob200@lemmy.cafe on 11 Jun 20:31 collapse

I know that more kids play video games daily then most adults that work and pay bills, which is besides the point. Most of the time it seems youngers use Discord to communicate then Twiter, when playing games, be regardless of what things might seem.

By removing Twitter from major gaming platforms would make Twitter less relevant to that market which is a lot, over time. It will almost look like Myspace in a sense. (not necessarily that Twitter would be closed down but just that they likely aren’t likely going to be using it even willingly, over something like Discord or Instagram.

YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca on 11 Jun 22:10 collapse

I don’t know any kids that use twitter. They all use Snapchat.

[deleted] on 11 Jun 20:12 next collapse

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thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org on 11 Jun 20:54 collapse

That makes me think of that Eddie Murphy bit

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ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 21:05 next collapse

That sucks M8 I saw the news for the Nintendo switch discounting support shame really would’ve loved to browse twitter on my switch while I chill in bed maybe listen to some chill music

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 11 Jun 21:32 next collapse

Now if only Hello Games would drop it too.

ripcord@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 21:44 collapse

And 1000 or so other developers.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 21:48 next collapse

This is a great thing.

There need to be material consequences for Nazism.

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 12 Jun 00:08 collapse

I think it’s more that it costs money to use the Twitter API now.

[deleted] on 12 Jun 00:37 collapse

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InternetUser2012@midwest.social on 11 Jun 22:10 next collapse

So X is shorthand for Nazi right?

[deleted] on 11 Jun 22:26 next collapse

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chiliedogg@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 00:38 collapse

Heck - even the letter is just a sans sarif Swastika.

Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jun 22:24 next collapse

I’ve never used Twitter, but I’ve heard that it’s just a porn site nowadays. Is that accurate?

menemen@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 22:31 next collapse

No. There are still a lot of serious journalists on it. It is still a very important media for journalists to quickly share information.

But the porn&hate bots and the uncontrolled trolls make it unbearable. It has always been rough on twitter, but it has become an utter shitshow.

meliaesc@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 02:52 next collapse

My main issue with the serious journalism is that there’s apparently no way to sort a feed by time/latest date anymore… what is the point of seeing a random assortment of news from any number of years? Maybe it looks different if you log in, but it used to be my main source of local news & weather before.

exanime@lemmy.today on 12 Jun 03:00 next collapse

No. There are still a lot of serious journalists on it. It is still a very important media for journalists to quickly share information.

Sorry but It was never that. I joined back in 2016 because everyone said it was the best for fast news and that was a Canadian election year. I didn’t last a week, it was just one liners from “journalist” and a plethora of trolls and people slinging shit at each other

Imagine how bad it was for news, that I wound up liking Reddit more because there was a modicum of moderation

Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 04:32 next collapse

Your experience as someone who tried it for a week probably doesn’t reflect that of people who used it professionally for many years. Part of what made it valuable to media people was the ubiquity of possible sources, but it takes some time and work to develop links to those sources and to the professional contacts who have their own connections to share.

[deleted] on 12 Jun 04:44 next collapse

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exanime@lemmy.today on 12 Jun 09:38 collapse

I’m a consumer of news, how would I compare my experience to someone using it professionally?

I’m saying watching baseball was boring and you are telling me playing baseball is fun. Two different things

Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 10:57 collapse

The experience of a news consumer is going to be different from that of a professional journalist. Kinda like the experience of eating a burger is different from working in a kitchen. Yeah, they’re two different things, we were talking journalism. Twitter was never great for news as a consumer imo, but it was a very valuable resource for journalists. I’m not sure how good X is for either but I’m pretty sure nether experience will have improved.

exanime@lemmy.today on 12 Jun 11:44 collapse

Yes I get that, but what’s the point of “twitter for journalists” if we separate that from people consuming said news? Basically you are saying Twitter is a great note gathering tool for journalists?

Even your claim that it was a great source for journalists I find sus. Maybe lazy journalists that only parrot twitter quotes. Where is the investigation? Corroboration? Context?

I’m not sure how good X is for either but I’m pretty sure nether experience will have improved.

In this we agree 100%

menemen@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 04:46 collapse

You always had to put the work in to find the journalists in whose work you are interested. The algorithm was never interested in doing that for you.

exanime@lemmy.today on 12 Jun 09:36 collapse

It’s was not a problem to find journalists, the issue was reducing news to a one liner. It essentially reduced every news into a clickbait soundbite, no nuance, no context

menemen@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 11:36 collapse

You’ve been following the wrong journalists…

exanime@lemmy.today on 12 Jun 15:21 collapse

This sort of prove my point that Twitter never was a good place for news anyway.

Perhaps you are right and it is a tool for journalists, but not being one, I am happy if it stops existing tomorrow. I am sure journalists would find a way as they did before Twitter

SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 08:47 collapse

Also the entire games industry is still on it and the move to Bluesky or mastadon ended in a stalemate. It’s the only online place outside of invite only discord servers where you can network with fellow game devs.

Holzkohlen@feddit.de on 11 Jun 22:31 next collapse

And a whole lot of racism!

TheLowestStone@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 22:34 next collapse

No, they also have Nazis and other assorted bigots.

Aceticon@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 12:11 collapse

Does the NAZI porn involve blond blue-eyed Frauleins in skimpy leather gear with wipps dominating willing slaves?

Asking for a friend.

Exusia@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 06:17 collapse

It was before, too.

ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 23:41 next collapse

what have they replaced the X button on their controllers with, then?

Gestrid@lemmy.ca on 11 Jun 23:45 collapse

PlayStation doesn’t have an X button, it has a Cross button. /j

CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 01:52 next collapse

Well shit. And here I’ve been holding it at a 45 degree angle all this time.

Gestrid@lemmy.ca on 12 Jun 05:31 collapse

This isn’t a joke I made up on my own, either. That’s legitimately what Sony calls it.

Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 12 Jun 10:43 collapse

Honestly I back that decision. They’re all basic shapes, not letters, so cross is the obvious name for it. I started calling it that based on that logic without being told to.

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 19:40 collapse

And Sony originally had the intention of each symbol alluding to a particular action or concept:

  • O is confirm or okay.
  • X is cancel or go back.
  • ☐ is map, menu, or option
  • Δ is heading, recenter, or point of view
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 13 Jun 00:42 collapse

Interesting, especially that they intended the confirm and back buttons to be nintendo-like but I’ve never seen them used that way.

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 01:24 collapse

They are used precisely that way in most Japanese titles, but for some reason when Playstation games were localized outside of the Japanese market the baffling decision was made to swap the positions of the OK and cancel buttons. So we got X for OK and O for cancel, which totally makes sense…

Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 13 Jun 05:45 collapse

I think it was to be similar to the XBox layout. I did wonder why the X was there, but never really asked.

It’s interesting because I’ve just recently learned the Japanese layout on Switch and it’s really sticky in my brain to the point that it’s taken over, so I’ve switched over on my PC controllers too. Except now games don’t know what to make of it, like Hollow Knight let me remap controls so button 2, which is B and on the bottom, is jump, and button 1 is A and on the right is spell. Now the menus behave the Japanese way, but also the game thinks that A is called B and B is called A because they were remapped and it assumes jump must be A and spell must be B, so now I need to ignore the button prompts in menus.

Also Bopl Battle lets you remap controls, but then it forces jump to be confirm no matter what, so you can have A for confirm and B for back in the main menu, but when you go into the game B becomes confirm and A becomes back. Me and my kids have bounced ourselves out of matches so many times it’s infuriating.

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 12:38 collapse

IIRC this was originally a Squaresoft decision, and was originally done for ergonomic reasons. Then other publishers started following suit. Square switched from the Japanese style O for OK, X for cancel between Final Fantasy 7 and Final Fantasy 8 in the US. 7 has Japanese style controls, 8 by default has the American style layout. I have never actually seen a definitive explanation given, though.

FWIW, the original Playstation predated the XBox by six years (1995 vs. 2001). The X/O switch for non-Japanese Playstation games was well in effect long before the XBox ever landed on store shelves, so I’m pretty sure the reverse is actually true. The XBox button layout is designed to ape the Playstation’s ergonomically, but the letters are shuffled around so it is not the same as the Nintendo/SNES controller most likely for lawsuit avoidance purposes.

Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 13 Jun 14:30 collapse

Huh, well I was just guessing about the XBox thing to be honest, sounds like you know more about it.

Also the difference between the layouts wouldn’t be so infuriating if XBox and Switch didn’t have literally the exact opposite in both naming and functionality across both of the X/Y and A/B pairs.

I don’t know why though, but I adopt the Switch style much more easily than I flip back. It’s weird because the bottom button is always the easiest to press and you’d expect that to be the obvious ergonomic answer, but my brain has some weird preference for the other way.

This has got to settle into a convention sometime. I’d be interested to see if there’s any research into it.

Actually, I found this informal poll (in English which would skew the results). In playstation the western style is overwhelmingly favoured but Nintendo and XBox styles are about an even split:

resetera.com/…/what-confirm-button-feels-the-most…

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 14:41 collapse

To be fair, I have seen the XBox theory floated repeatedly on the internet, never with any acknowledgement that the timeline doesn’t make sense…

Insofar as I can determine from my standpoint of being a video game collector who has no inside knowledge but was at least there at the time, Sony copied the SNES pad when they split from Nintendo after the original Play Station add-on debacle. As a matter of fact, the original original plan was to just use the SNES controller itself to begin with. The button conventions for the subsequent Playstation pad were obviously meant to be a direct copy-paste of the above and intended to be used in the same way as was currently the norm for Japanese console RPG’s on Nintendo’s machine: A was for OK and B was for cancel/back. The Playstation O button is where the SNES A button is, and the Playstation X button is where the SNES B button is. It all makes sense.

…Until it got switched. Only outside of Japan. For reasons that no one responsible has ever seen fit to document, at least publicly.

Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 13 Jun 14:45 collapse

The theory I’ve seen accepted here is that A was closer to the thumb: ux.stackexchange.com/…/what-reason-could-nintendo…

And perhaps on the XBox/PS controllers with 4 buttons, the bottom button is the natural rest position.

I would love to see someone do a study on if there’s an intuitive layout or if it’s all just learned.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 12 Jun 02:58 next collapse

Imagine if instead of X, Δ, O, and ☐ it was 4 different religious symbols. Like those “coexist” bumper stickers.

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 12 Jun 07:25 next collapse

It makes extremists only able to push a single button and particularly combative atheists able to push none. At least Christians can jump I guess.

Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 12 Jun 10:42 collapse

Only on playstation. On xbox and most PC controllers they can mostly attack. On switch they do like… the least common main action, or something context sensitive.

modeler@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 10:36 next collapse

If you’re pushing everyone’s buttons it’ll end badly.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 14:47 collapse

If you used a time machine to go far enough back in history, I bet you could find a civilization or two that those would be religious symbols.

nadram@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 14:50 collapse

Factually correct :) Sony use symbols not letters

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 12 Jun 00:59 next collapse

You love to see it! Stand with trans folks ❤️

bitchkat@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 01:54 next collapse

I’m not a gamer or a xitterhead but what would these consoles do with xitter integration.

banana_lama@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 02:08 next collapse

For uploading game clips I’d assume

nutsack@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 02:50 next collapse

you mean twitter? it’s called twitter

twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jun 05:23 collapse

Xitter being pronounced “shitter” is pretty apt tho

nutsack@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 05:43 collapse

no it’s pronounced Twitter as in Twitter

Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 17:41 collapse

I agree and hate that you’re getting downvoted lol It’s fucking twitter. x is a letter

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 12 Jun 02:54 next collapse

For Nintendo, it was the only way to upload your screenshots to the internet if you don’t have a PC or phone with an SD slot. The other consoles have other integration you could use for images (and they all have YouTube for video) so this kinda sucks for Switch owners that have literally no other way of getting their screenshots online.

JeyNessuno@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jun 06:11 collapse

Nope there’s a feature that lets you download the screenshot to your phone wirelessly

decivex@yiffit.net on 12 Jun 07:11 collapse

Yeah, and it’s extremely janky.

brsrklf@jlai.lu on 12 Jun 09:16 collapse

It is. Last time I needed a screenshot I tried that, it never worked and I ended up removing the SD and reading from it.

umbraroze@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 06:41 collapse

Sharing screenshots and video captures.

The only place where I tried to use it was on Xbox back when Xbox One first came out, and I didn’t like the way it worked back then, so I didn’t really use it much. It didn’t send the actual media to Twitter, it posted a link to the file, and Xbox screenshots got deleted after 30 days. If I wanted to properly post it so that the media was actually hosted on Twitter, I had to save the full res media anyway.

(In fact actually saving full resolution Xbox screenshots used to be needlessly difficult. Only much later they added a way to save screenshots to OneDrive, which occasionally worked, and only very recently they decided they don’t bother with the Xbox screenshot hosting at all and auto-upload everything to OneDrive.)

archchan@lemmy.ml on 12 Jun 03:03 next collapse

So… Mastodon integration instead I hope?

match@pawb.social on 12 Jun 07:27 collapse

With each company hosting their own mastodon instance! We can bring back console wars with federation/defederation

mlg@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 18:52 collapse

Nintendo would be spamming ban hammer, Xbox would be full of spam, and PS would be full of Japanese posts & memes lol

its perfect.

Wispy2891@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 04:04 next collapse

Surprised that they didn’t remove it earlier

At $42k per month I would have removed/disabled it immediately

Why would I need to pay that kind of money to let my users to post on your social where you’re monetizing it with ads and using the content to increase user engagement? Should be the opposite! The social network paying the game console maker in order to get preferential treatment and prominent share buttons

Crashumbc@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 18:01 next collapse

Because originally it was extremely cheap advertisement for your console and games?

moon@lemmy.cafe on 12 Jun 22:21 collapse

It’s not that simple. That’s not fair to their innocent user base who used that as their primary login. That’s why this is actually a big deal, it’s technically difficult since it’s so integrated, and it screws over some of their users. So giving them a fair chance to migrate off is the right thing to do.

Wispy2891@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 05:51 collapse

Twitter as a login doesn’t need api access and it’s still free

They need to pay the absurd fees when they post screenshots on behalf of users. So, since it’s not a very important feature, it doesn’t make sense to pay at least half a million dollars per year for that

vga@sopuli.xyz on 12 Jun 04:47 next collapse

Was a horrible idea before Musk also.

citrusface@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 06:41 next collapse

It wasn’t tho. It was a really great idea. It just became shit.

match@pawb.social on 12 Jun 07:24 collapse

It was honestly pretty good being able to post clips and screenshots directly from a game

Snapz@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 05:32 next collapse

Fucking good, everyone that still supports that wannabe fascist tool wears it as a badge of stupidity, at best.

Iloveyurianime@ani.social on 12 Jun 06:56 next collapse

Can we get a shout out for elon for killing twitter

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 Jun 09:50 collapse

It’s actually a huge feat to kill such a huge company that had so much momentum. Kudos to him. At this point he could make a business out of ruining things. Pay him to endorse a company if you want to tarnish its reputation.

RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jun 11:53 collapse

Every once and a while I wonder if that might have happened

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 Jun 14:13 collapse

Not the first time I heard that. Met a hardcore Elonstan who defended he’s a genius, and that he was trying to take twitter down to profit off of insurance money.

RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jun 14:34 next collapse

Yikes. Yeah no. Best id guess is maybe foreign money hoping to tank a liberal platform… But I’m not married to that conspiracy. It assumes he’s smarter than he seems.

kent_eh@lemmy.ca on 12 Jun 14:55 next collapse

foreign money hoping to tank a liberal platform.

Since when was twitter a “liberal platform”?

The rightwingnuts have been running rampant over there for as long as I can remember.

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 Jun 15:27 next collapse

Twitter was very diverse. You could see just what you wanted to see. My twitter was very liberal and tech oriented. But now everyone left.

kent_eh@lemmy.ca on 12 Jun 19:05 collapse

You could see just what you wanted to see.

That’s not my experience. I never wanted to see rightwing conspiracy crap, but I wasn’t able to avoid it crowding my feed until I avoided Twitter entirely.

Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Jun 20:20 collapse

Eh, some of them. You weren’t generally banned for “merely” being right wing. But pre-Elon you generally had to toe the line a lot more to avoid being suspended or banned if you were overtly right wing than if you were liberal or left and now it’s the other way around.

Just like how the blue check started as an “I am a public figure and this account is definitely who I appear to be” mark and that’s it, then it became a mark of who you knew/could bribe at Twitter to move the process along and could be revoked for saying the wrong things on Twitter (for example everyone’s least favorite gay right wing provocateur Milo Yianwhatever had his blue check stripped for saying something too offensive well before he was banned), then post-Elon it became just a subscription service.

There was also a tendency to quietly artificially reduce visibility for a lot of right wing voices or hashtags. For example, female MRA and member of Honey Badger Radio Hannah Wallen literally got a bunch of her fans to do some pretty elaborate testing of her account at one point after her engagement numbers suddenly and mysteriously dropped and it turned out many of her posts were invisible except to people that followed her that she also followed, even to people specifically looking at her feed.

Certain right wing hashtags would have numbers that should definitely have them trending but mysteriously weren’t (or would be for just a few minutes and then suddenly vanish despite gaining popularity in the meantime), certain liberal/left hashtags would be trending despite seemingly not having the numbers for it to be organic, that sort of thing. Because Twitter moderation was curating what was and was not “trending”, literally blacklisting certain topics and bumping up others because of the visibility that being trending would afford.

It was all really, overtly obvious if you watched for it, like how certain accounts would be shadowbanned on Reddit for reasons that were both obvious and not spam-related despite shadowbanning supposedly only being employed as an anti-spam tool, or how certain subs would be allowed to openly ignore certain sitewide rules.

Irelephant@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 00:29 collapse

maybe to turn it into a not liberal platform, judging from the few times i used it post elon

Emmie@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 18:23 next collapse

Elonstan in 2024? Who where?

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 Jun 21:46 collapse

They exist, believe me…

Irelephant@lemm.ee on 16 Jun 00:30 collapse

twitter would be bankrupt if they didn’t exist

Cosmicomical@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 19:37 next collapse

Instead of… you know… actually profiting from one of the biggest companies in the world? After you paid it twice its market value?

limelight79@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 20:22 collapse

Insurance money? He thinks that there’s insurance for businesses being run into the ground?

Resol@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 12:39 next collapse

Looks like we just aXed Twitter integration (get it? Because X)

ADTJ@feddit.uk on 13 Jun 01:39 collapse

I don’t get it, can you Xplain?

Resol@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 10:05 collapse

I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not, but I will assume you aren’t.

You see, X is the terrible new name for Twitter that we all hate, and so these vidya game companies are removing Twitter integration from their consoles. They’re axing the integration (meaning they’re killing it with an axe). Axe sounds like X.

MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz on 13 Jun 12:22 collapse

I would’ve Xpected you to get their joke!

Resol@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 13:07 collapse

Yeah honestly I’m kinda bad at this.

nadram@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 14:47 next collapse

How it has not caught on to call it Xitter (Shitter)… I don’t know

model_tar_gz@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 19:50 next collapse

Because starting with ‘X’ does not guarantee the ‘sh’ sound. See ‘xylophone’, ‘Xavier’, ‘Xenon’.

Xitter looks like ‘exiter’ to me.

LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Jun 20:09 next collapse

Zitter to me, which is kinda gross

nexguy@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 20:14 next collapse

Shylophone, shaver, shenon…checksh out.

[deleted] on 12 Jun 20:47 next collapse

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model_tar_gz@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 20:47 next collapse

Xean Connery hates this simple trick.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip on 13 Jun 13:29 collapse

Shylophone

What a great way to describe me at a party.

time_fo_that@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 21:56 collapse

Zitter

Sabata11792@ani.social on 13 Jun 12:35 collapse

I just call it “The website formerly know as Twitter”.

c0ber@lemmy.ml on 12 Jun 16:52 next collapse

all three? what about soulja boy? as long as he’s still supporting it they’ll be fine

sarchar@programming.dev on 12 Jun 19:11 next collapse

At what point were we all on Microsoft/Nintendo/Sega’s side wtf?

Everyone sucks here.

sunzu@kbin.run on 16 Jun 02:38 collapse

Seems like there are bootlickers among as...

AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 19:26 next collapse

Elon Musk comes out onto a stage and announces that Tesla is entering the game console market when?

boonhet@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 19:40 collapse

I believe you can already play games on the Tesla’s screen.

I do hope they’re disabled when driving…

ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml on 12 Jun 20:16 collapse

Just rented a Tesla on holiday. None of it works while driving.

Have to say though I do like the car!

ErwinLottemann@feddit.de on 13 Jun 06:19 collapse

some do work, but not fullscreen restricted to the passenger side of the screen

boonhet@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 19:40 next collapse

All three? Surely you must be forgetting OUYA, KFC and Soulja Boy!

boatsnhos931@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 02:10 next collapse

What is x? Is bobs n vagenes?

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 05:57 collapse

Ironically yes.

xavier666@lemm.ee on 13 Jun 10:33 collapse

A year back this was a joke. But now it’s true.

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 05:58 next collapse

They should add Mastodon integration instead.

cRazi_man@lemm.ee on 13 Jun 10:06 collapse

No one will make money from that, so they’re not going to do it.

Etterra@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 09:33 next collapse

It took them this long? Impressive. Idiotic, but still impressive.

DacoTaco@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 09:56 collapse

They probably just waited for the contracts to end hehe :')

egeres@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 10:28 next collapse

Are they going to integrate mastodon instead?

EunieIsTheBus@feddit.de on 13 Jun 10:38 next collapse

You’re joking right?

Upstream7564@discuss.tchncs.de on 13 Jun 11:14 next collapse

Remember, it’s Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo. Not angels.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip on 13 Jun 12:01 next collapse

They’ll make their own fediverse. With blackjack. And hookers.

Nintendo: 🙋‍♂️

Fine, Nintendo, you don’t have to have the hookers.

Nintendo: 🙋‍♂️

No, you cannot dress Pikachu up as a prostitute.

Miyamoto: 🙋‍♂️

You can do whatever you want.

AeonFelis@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 15:01 collapse

No. They’ll integrate with Threads.

Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee on 13 Jun 16:00 collapse

Y not?