GOP warning of 'national security threat' is about Russia wanting nuclear weapon in space: Sources (abcnews.go.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 12:00
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GOP warning of ‘national security threat’ is about Russia wanting nuclear weapon in space: Sources::The White House will meet with congressional leadership as a top Republican is requesting President Biden declassify information on a “serious national security threat”

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givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 12:34 next collapse

It’s concerning that right before this it came out musk is letting Russia use starlink and musk almost immediately said he’s taking some starling satellites out of orbit.

Pretty sure he’s always been fine leaving space filled with broken shitty satellites.

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 15 Feb 2024 14:27 next collapse

Shitty people do shitty things, news at 11.

Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee on 15 Feb 2024 17:07 collapse

He’s letting Russia use starlink? Care to elaborate? That would be a direct violation of sanctions the US has put over Russia.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 17:13 next collapse

reuters.com/…/ukraines-military-intelligence-says…

Ukraine says they are, musk says they’re not

Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee on 15 Feb 2024 17:56 collapse

You said “musk is letting Russia use starlink”

That’s a very specific claim but nothing in the article you linked indicates that this has anything to do with “Musk letting them do so” nor does it say that he denies the claims of them using it either. It only says that they don’t sell them to Russia and to our current knowledge this is true. Starlink doesn’t work in Russia or the occupied territories. It does work near the front lines though because Ukrainians are using them aswell.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 18:57 collapse

Well, you can believe the Ukrainian government, or Elon Musk.

Pretty easy choice for most people.

Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee on 15 Feb 2024 19:37 collapse

Maybe you should just read the article you linked and stop making up stuff. You can hate Musk as much as you like but that doesn’t justify spreading lies.

Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee on 15 Feb 2024 17:13 collapse

Russia proper is geofenced and cannot use Starlink at all

Russian citizens and individual members of militias/armed forces are buying terminals (via smugglers) and using them within Ukraine

Short of blocking the Russia side of the front line as it changes daily, they can play whack-a-mole with terminals used by Russian/aligned forces

db2@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 12:48 next collapse

Oh look, it’s the next fear mongering tactic.

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 15 Feb 2024 14:28 next collapse

Didn’t Russia sign some sort of treaty that prohibited that?

They wouldn’t just go and ignore a treaty, would they?

SuperIce@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 16:26 next collapse

They’ll argue that they didn’t sign the treaty, the USSR did.

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 15 Feb 2024 21:27 collapse

Even if the federation signed it, they’d still find a reason to ignore it if they wanted to.

ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 23:02 collapse

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_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 16 Feb 2024 14:31 collapse

“Huh? What Budapest Memorandum do you refer to comrade?”

-Russia probably

rottingleaf@lemmy.zip on 15 Feb 2024 17:45 next collapse

Frankly I think all states on the planet capable of that would ignore any treaties if they could get such a stick to wave around.

KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 2024 18:21 collapse

It wouldn’t matter they see the US Space Force as a violation of that charter

_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works on 15 Feb 2024 21:26 collapse

Let’s be real: If it wasn’t that, they’d come up with another excuse.

Zerlyna@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 14:42 next collapse

Wait they are warning us about Russia yet they want the oompa loopa that supports them.

xor@infosec.pub on 15 Feb 2024 16:28 next collapse

really they all hate him and just want his supporters…

ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 17:47 collapse

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xor@infosec.pub on 16 Feb 2024 04:24 collapse

yep… in 2015 he was the laughing stock of the gop… until he started winning

the fact that he got the nomination again blows my mind…
i’m legitimately concerned about a civil war at this point…

CitizenKong@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 17:25 collapse

They are trying to create the narrative that Biden is helping Putin too because Trump so obviously does it. It’s whataboutism.

phoneymouse@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 14:51 next collapse

As predicted in the plot of Space Cowboys

ramble81@lemm.ee on 15 Feb 2024 15:19 next collapse

So the GoldenEye program is real!

ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 18:01 next collapse

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throw4w4y5@sh.itjust.works on 15 Feb 2024 20:42 next collapse

putting the blast into oblast

😆

j4k3@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 21:14 collapse

Texas has the same GDP as all of Russia. Both New York and California are considerably larger than all of Russia. There is no scalable parity here. China is more serious, but Russia is nothing more than a sadistic nuisance. Moving away from fossil fuels in the next few decades will make Russia into a backwater wilderness even more than it already is. The current war’s workforce generation gap is their death knell.

It would not surprise me one bit if Putin’s rhetoric is done in collusion with the US military industrial complex behind the scenes. He’s already funding the Republican party. It would only make sense that he is also working closely with the real powers.

KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 2024 18:20 next collapse

Which leads me to ask: if he has to have a launch capacity in space, how badly broken is Russia’s launch capacity?

jabathekek@sopuli.xyz on 15 Feb 2024 18:58 next collapse

They probably sent all their engineers to die in Ukraine.

Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 2024 19:07 collapse

His nuclear arsenal is primarily 50-year-old delivery systems that have been “maintained” by notorious black market scalpers. It would be a surprise if even one ICBM could make it to its destination and then detonate with effect, even if absolutely no countermeasures were deployed.

The world has been politely capitulating to a man they know is bluffing. It’s been the lazy way out for decades now. It’s time to call his bluff and end this regime of terror.

Nighed@sffa.community on 15 Feb 2024 19:16 collapse

thats a hell of a risk to take though, and he knows no-one can take it

KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 2024 19:26 collapse

One of the things about New START is the US and Russia inspect each other’s launch capacity, and its a bit of a zero sum game: The US would never admit it has better launch capacity against Russia because it tells China and Iran they can sweep in and gain soft power. The US could admit it and then the rest of the world sees a hyperpower situation again and a need to de-escalate its own capacity.

Nighed@sffa.community on 15 Feb 2024 19:51 collapse

They wouldn’t though, even if 5% of their missiles/nukes work, millions would die.

DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Feb 2024 15:22 collapse

Ok, what are they trying to distract us from now?