fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev
on 12 Feb 23:28
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discord is a plague
diemartin@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 18:03
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I really, REALLY HATE when the main discussion forum of some FOSS is either Discord or Reddit.
18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world
on 12 Feb 23:37
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You couldn’t do that before? That’s stupid.
breadcat@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Feb 00:07
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this seems basically the same as how blocking has worked for forever so idk
missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Feb 01:21
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It was fairly easy for someone to know you blocked them since they wouldn’t be able to react to your messages or suddenly couldn’t dm you anymore, I assume that won’t apply to this.
breadcat@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Feb 01:52
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I’ve been blocked a time or two on discord. I don’t remember the exact message, but it matched what you would see if you tried to message or add a user who didn’t exist. I could tell from context that it was a block, but if it hadn’t have happened mid conversation I would have thought I got the username wrong or something.
I haven’t been blocked in quite a while, so this may no longer be accurate.
the blocking feature would let the blocked person know when they try to DM the user or react to the user. this "ignore" feature appears to hide all messages and DMs while still allowing reactions
But it still says “1 ignored message” when they say something. I want it HIDDEN ENTIRELY, Discord!
Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Feb 23:43
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It’s called plugins, and it’s great. Technically you are breaking ToS when using them, but there hasn’t been any crackdown (the betterdiscord team did remove the more ‘risky’ mods like messagelogger from the plugin store)
Just know that aliucord is experiences some repetitive crashing issues right now. Seems the devs aren’t fixing the current app and downloader as they have a new downloader in an early beta. Seems their solution is to just get the new downloader for now lol.
I don’t even mind the 1 ignored message. At least it gives me slight context that people are replying to something. I hate that it gives me the little “new messages” indicator on chats when it’s only users I have ignored.
Well, you still see the blocked message, just not the contents of that message. They can also still see your messages, they just can’t react with emotes. This is just feedback I’ve seen from people who use the feature, as some people (not necessarily me) take issue with these things
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Feb 20:45
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I will also maintain that systems that block someone from seeing your message are simply a way to amplify eco chambers and universally bad. Nothing like being blocked and not being able to respond to a whole chain of comments or they do one witty (wrong) zinger, and block so you can’t reply, etc
Way too many apps implement a hide/mute functionality and then call it a “block”, though.
If I block someone, I don’t want to simply hide their messages from my view, I want them to not be able to see and interact with mine. It should be a restraining order, not just sticking your fingers into your own ears and shouting “LALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” while they continue to shout slander to anyone passing by.
JackbyDev@programming.dev
on 13 Feb 06:09
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Pretend you blocked me. Below is sort of what it looks like in their UI. Personally I like it this way.
Other user: Heyyy
2 blocked messages
- Jackby: Good morning
- Jackby: How is everyone?
Other user: Good!
This is for group chats. Blocking still prevents DMs.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Feb 05:42
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They did test it at one point. I got the test. Honestly, I didn’t like it— seeing gaps in conversation that I can’t click sucks.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Feb 13:43
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I don’t see how it’s the same. In real life I could just walk away and be done with it. Online they can just generate another account and insert themselves right before you.
If people could teleport or create avatars endlessly to try to talk to me in real life I would eventually just wear head phones and pretend to listen to them until they got bored.
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Wow. Standard feature of the IRC clients.
What next? Federated instances?
discord is a plague
I really, REALLY HATE when the main discussion forum of some FOSS is either Discord or Reddit.
You couldn’t do that before? That’s stupid.
this seems basically the same as how blocking has worked for forever so idk
It was fairly easy for someone to know you blocked them since they wouldn’t be able to react to your messages or suddenly couldn’t dm you anymore, I assume that won’t apply to this.
aye, I suppose that’s useful
I’ve been blocked a time or two on discord. I don’t remember the exact message, but it matched what you would see if you tried to message or add a user who didn’t exist. I could tell from context that it was a block, but if it hadn’t have happened mid conversation I would have thought I got the username wrong or something.
I haven’t been blocked in quite a while, so this may no longer be accurate.
It’s still accurate
the blocking feature would let the blocked person know when they try to DM the user or react to the user. this "ignore" feature appears to hide all messages and DMs while still allowing reactions
But it still says “1 ignored message” when they say something. I want it HIDDEN ENTIRELY, Discord!
It’s called plugins, and it’s great. Technically you are breaking ToS when using them, but there hasn’t been any crackdown (the betterdiscord team did remove the more ‘risky’ mods like messagelogger from the plugin store)
Can you use them on Android?
revenge is the only up to date android mod I’m aware of currently. there’s also aliucord but it’s running an old build (which might be to your taste!)
Just know that aliucord is experiences some repetitive crashing issues right now. Seems the devs aren’t fixing the current app and downloader as they have a new downloader in an early beta. Seems their solution is to just get the new downloader for now lol.
betterdiscord is pretty bad, try legcord or vesktop
better yet use shelter which never breaks
legcord includes shelter
interesting. I still prefer installing Shelter alongside OpenAsar tho
it also includes openasar
AAAA
😈😈😈
I've been trying to find Legcord's OpenASAR settings... any idea where they are?
I’ve been using vesktop for a while an had never heard of Shelter before
Interesting
I want there to be a setting.
Sometimes the context of a missing message in a group chat is important.
I don’t even mind the 1 ignored message. At least it gives me slight context that people are replying to something. I hate that it gives me the little “new messages” indicator on chats when it’s only users I have ignored.
great. can we get actual blocking now? something that people have wanted for as long as the app has been around? 🥲
i'm curious, what does the current blocking fall short of?
Well, you still see the blocked message, just not the contents of that message. They can also still see your messages, they just can’t react with emotes. This is just feedback I’ve seen from people who use the feature, as some people (not necessarily me) take issue with these things
I will also maintain that systems that block someone from seeing your message are simply a way to amplify eco chambers and universally bad. Nothing like being blocked and not being able to respond to a whole chain of comments or they do one witty (wrong) zinger, and block so you can’t reply, etc
Way too many apps implement a hide/mute functionality and then call it a “block”, though.
If I block someone, I don’t want to simply hide their messages from my view, I want them to not be able to see and interact with mine. It should be a restraining order, not just sticking your fingers into your own ears and shouting “LALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” while they continue to shout slander to anyone passing by.
Pretend you blocked me. Below is sort of what it looks like in their UI. Personally I like it this way.
2 blocked messages
- Jackby: Good morning - Jackby: How is everyone?
This is for group chats. Blocking still prevents DMs.
They did test it at one point. I got the test. Honestly, I didn’t like it— seeing gaps in conversation that I can’t click sucks.
I don’t think this is a good feature. If you’re going to ignore someone, own up to it and let them know, don’t let them in the dark
Why?
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I don’t see how it’s the same. In real life I could just walk away and be done with it. Online they can just generate another account and insert themselves right before you.
If people could teleport or create avatars endlessly to try to talk to me in real life I would eventually just wear head phones and pretend to listen to them until they got bored.
Because online harassment exists.
This guy doesn’t know I’m ignoring him, and it makes me giggle
Yes, that’s a healthy way to handle normal interactions.
However if you are being harassed by someone you don’t want to interact with them.
Often times blocking informs the other user which has been shown to just make people resort to other means.
There is practical application of not responding being better in some situations.
In normal human interaction, be good to each other. Ghosting is awful.
I don’t think this is intended for ghosting people though.
People will use it for ghosting unfortunately
That’s fine.
Those people suck and you didn’t lose anything.
That is assuming the other person is interacting in good faith. If there’s one thing the internet is full is trolls.
But they could make an alt account if they see you blocked them