Enkers@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Feb 2025 02:33
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I mean, there’s such a limited volume rn, that they’re just going to get scalped for that price, so it probably doesn’t affect the end buyer’s price much anyways.
Still, not a great precedent.
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 02:47
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I’ve always wondered why board partners didn’t just raise to scalper prices and take a $2200 profit per card sold.
And tbh, it’s Nvidia’s fault that the partners don’t have enough dies, I’d much rather a partner take the margin than an unnecessary middleman.
9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Feb 2025 03:03
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Pure greed. TSMC built tons of capacity since the pandemic, RAM makers have cut back production because of low prices.
There is tons of capacity out there to make more graphics cards, even including all the big data centers using them for AI. but i guess its more profitable to only sell cards to rich gamers and AI companies at inflated prices
Enkers@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Feb 2025 03:18
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Same thing with Taylor Swift tickets I guess? I’d imagine it’s because of negative backlash to charging so much. Instead of people being mad at the scalpers, they’d be mad at the retailers.
I’m personally kind of partial to the lottery method for right to buy, since it cuts down on scalpers.
Majorllama@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 02:38
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I wasnt going to get one anyway, but now I really won’t buy one lol.
My current PC which at the time was a pretty much top of the line PC cost less than just that GPU. Ridiculous.
otacon239@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 03:18
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Yeah, you can build a 1440p native/4k upscale build for like $1000 if not less. I don’t understand what the demand for these cards is. What games benefit?
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca
on 06 Feb 2025 04:18
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My guess is that demand for high-end GPUs is more for AI stuff, which can always benefit from more horsepower.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca
on 06 Feb 2025 04:18
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Yup, my last build was 2020 when 2000 series was still the top. 2070s is what I went with. Complete with 64 GB of RAM, 3800X, and other stuff (even a 500$ monitor) and I was only in around $2000 lol.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Feb 2025 04:22
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Eyyy, i just upgraded from a 3800x! 9800x3d is a solid improvement. Still using my 2080 TI tho (used display model from microcenter, for $800, in 2020)
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca
on 06 Feb 2025 05:14
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I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t see any improvement upgrading my proc. Graphics card would need to be next im sure.
Asafum@feddit.nl
on 06 Feb 2025 02:39
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“Nvidia to relase RTX 7090, get yours for only $23,000!”
brucethemoose@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 02:56
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You joke, but the pro version won’t be far. The Pro 4090 (aka the RTX 6000 ada)was already $7000 MSRP, and the pro 5090 is rumored to have far more VRAM.
shoulderoforion@fedia.io
on 06 Feb 2025 02:46
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Sturgist@lemmy.ca
on 06 Feb 2025 11:22
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My desktop is still running a 1060, I got it when the 3000 series had just dropped. I’ve got my pal’s old OCd 1080 sitting on the sidelines waiting for me to get all the bits for water-cooling put together. The 1060 runs everything I’ve thrown at it. It might not run new new things at photorealistic quality, but stable frames and good enough quality that it doesn’t look like shit. Once I’ve got a loop put together for the 1080 the 1060 is going into my media server to take over transcoding from the 970 I had before the 1060.
lemming741@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 11:46
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With a traditional phone plan, you’re paying for a new phone every year so you may as well take them up on it.
Ioughttamow@fedia.io
on 06 Feb 2025 02:50
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I’m the grim darkness of the future, you take out a mortgage to build a pc. Real glad i sprang for upgrades for my machine in December and January
paraphrand@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 03:44
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And then you also need to take out insurance. But you can’t get any where you are due to climate change.
someone that works at a local bank was at the grocery store yesterday when we were there. back by the dairy and such. this was overheard:
“hey look, they got a loan officer for the eggs”
garretble@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 03:41
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My 1070 still plays Final Fantasy XIV just fine, so I think I keep my $3,400, thanks.
BassTurd@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 05:21
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Either devs are going to have to start finding ways to keep next gen games functioning properly on my 2080ti, or I’m going to have to find a different hobby if AMD follows suite. I will absolutely not be coming close to paying for anything on that scale.
pineapplepizza@lemm.ee
on 06 Feb 2025 07:21
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2080 will play more than a lifetime supply of indie games. No need to continue supporting anti consumer AAA games
BassTurd@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 14:09
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I get rarely but newer AAA titles but grab them later on sale. There will be a point when either my card fails or just can’t keep up. If I’m pigeon holed to only lower graphics games, so be it.
lumpybag@reddthat.com
on 06 Feb 2025 19:02
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Eh just get into the used pc parts market and upgrade to the 5090 when it is made obsolete by the 7090
BassTurd@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 20:26
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Yea, really I just wanted to piss and moan about Nvidia. Realistically, I’ll find alternatives if the need arises, but it won’t be to the tune of a $3k purchase.
lumpybag@reddthat.com
on 06 Feb 2025 21:37
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Haha it’s ridiculous and they are basically using the Apple model where they charge obscene amounts for just more memory. It will only last while they have their AI moat. That moat is under a multi-pronged attack and will eventually lose one way or another
BassTurd@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 23:11
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We can only hope.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 23:21
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Don’t worry. You can always just buy Skyrim again.
TheMachineStops@discuss.tchncs.de
on 06 Feb 2025 07:45
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Or just move to a a console, the quality might not be the same, but it is way cheaper. This is one of the reasons people by consoles, they are cheaper and the games are optimized for it.
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl
on 06 Feb 2025 10:43
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You can get very acceptable performance for fractions of the price of a scalped 5090.
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de
on 06 Feb 2025 13:22
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After a while it’s not cheaper. 2080ti should already perform at the level or above a PS5 and console games don’t get the discounts PC games have plus most indie games aren’t even available on console.
And for real you don’t need a 1000$ card to game up to date AAA games, a 600-800$ PC can play fine at 1080p
BassTurd@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 14:22
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Nah. I don’t have a computer to game, but I built my computer to game. Consoles at this point are smart data collection devices that also play games. I wouldn’t introduce that into my network at home. I could get a steam deck though…
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 05:24
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$3409 for some proprietary drivers on my PC? No thanks.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 08:29
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Aren’t these the same cards that have been self destructing during driver updates?
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Feb 2025 10:50
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Stop. Buying. Nvidia.
Pringles@lemm.ee
on 06 Feb 2025 13:37
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That’s about 10x more than I have ever paid for a gpu and will ever pay for a gpu. Who tf buys this at hose prices? You can go on a 3 month vacation to Thailand for that kind of money.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Feb 2025 17:50
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Well…The ones buying it anyway can do that in addition.
Or they wont. Depending on who you ask
BlackLaZoR@fedia.io
on 06 Feb 2025 13:55
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Nice! They're cooking hard - At this point Nvidia should pay Epic to make next Unreal engine even slower
Wooki@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 14:12
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At this point why not charge $40,000. Morons will still buy them
Nvidia’s biggest finacial achievement in their gaming branch was fairly simple, getting rid of the “Titan” nomenclature. That’s it.
Before we had the XX80’ cards and that was it. All you ever needed for gaming was a XX80 Ti. That was the top of the food chain. Nobody ever expected you to have lr need a Titan card - that would have been ridiculous. The Titan card was a mix between gaming GPU and buisness GPU. It was for people who didn’t want to buy a Quadro Series for work and additionally a GTX/RTX Card for gaming. The Titan was the best of both worlds but came with a high price.
But now the XX90’ Series is essentially what the Titan Series was. Except now owning a XX80’ Series doesn’t feel like top of the line anymore. Simply by having a card in a generation with a higher “number” than yours, feels like there’s still a higher tier to achieve or like you’re still in “mid” tier, essentialy. Enough people fell for it and started buying the XX90’ Series as if it where a requirement for modern gaming. And after the XX90’ Series became mainstream, game developers stopped optimizing their max setting for the “mid” tier cards. This I why cards like the 4070 Ti or 4080 S still dip below 60 FPS on 1440p on maxed settings in some titles. 60 FPS on maxed is reserved for a 4090 - maximum settings, maximum graphical fidelity, maximum power consumption, maximum price.
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I mean, there’s such a limited volume rn, that they’re just going to get scalped for that price, so it probably doesn’t affect the end buyer’s price much anyways.
Still, not a great precedent.
I’ve always wondered why board partners didn’t just raise to scalper prices and take a $2200 profit per card sold.
And tbh, it’s Nvidia’s fault that the partners don’t have enough dies, I’d much rather a partner take the margin than an unnecessary middleman.
Pure greed. TSMC built tons of capacity since the pandemic, RAM makers have cut back production because of low prices.
There is tons of capacity out there to make more graphics cards, even including all the big data centers using them for AI. but i guess its more profitable to only sell cards to rich gamers and AI companies at inflated prices
Same thing with Taylor Swift tickets I guess? I’d imagine it’s because of negative backlash to charging so much. Instead of people being mad at the scalpers, they’d be mad at the retailers.
I’m personally kind of partial to the lottery method for right to buy, since it cuts down on scalpers.
I wasnt going to get one anyway, but now I really won’t buy one lol.
My current PC which at the time was a pretty much top of the line PC cost less than just that GPU. Ridiculous.
Yeah, you can build a 1440p native/4k upscale build for like $1000 if not less. I don’t understand what the demand for these cards is. What games benefit?
But that extra 3FPS bro.
My guess is that demand for high-end GPUs is more for AI stuff, which can always benefit from more horsepower.
Yup, my last build was 2020 when 2000 series was still the top. 2070s is what I went with. Complete with 64 GB of RAM, 3800X, and other stuff (even a 500$ monitor) and I was only in around $2000 lol.
Eyyy, i just upgraded from a 3800x! 9800x3d is a solid improvement. Still using my 2080 TI tho (used display model from microcenter, for $800, in 2020)
I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t see any improvement upgrading my proc. Graphics card would need to be next im sure.
Shit mine was 1/3 of that haha
“Nvidia to relase RTX 7090, get yours for only $23,000!”
You joke, but the pro version won’t be far. The Pro 4090 (aka the RTX 6000 ada)was already $7000 MSRP, and the pro 5090 is rumored to have far more VRAM.
that seems like a lot, to play video games
Especially for such slim margins of improvement over the 4000 series.
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My desktop is still running a 1060, I got it when the 3000 series had just dropped. I’ve got my pal’s old OCd 1080 sitting on the sidelines waiting for me to get all the bits for water-cooling put together. The 1060 runs everything I’ve thrown at it. It might not run new new things at photorealistic quality, but stable frames and good enough quality that it doesn’t look like shit. Once I’ve got a loop put together for the 1080 the 1060 is going into my media server to take over transcoding from the 970 I had before the 1060.
With a traditional phone plan, you’re paying for a new phone every year so you may as well take them up on it.
I’m the grim darkness of the future, you take out a mortgage to build a pc. Real glad i sprang for upgrades for my machine in December and January
And then you also need to take out insurance. But you can’t get any where you are due to climate change.
someone that works at a local bank was at the grocery store yesterday when we were there. back by the dairy and such. this was overheard:
“hey look, they got a loan officer for the eggs”
My 1070 still plays Final Fantasy XIV just fine, so I think I keep my $3,400, thanks.
Either devs are going to have to start finding ways to keep next gen games functioning properly on my 2080ti, or I’m going to have to find a different hobby if AMD follows suite. I will absolutely not be coming close to paying for anything on that scale.
2080 will play more than a lifetime supply of indie games. No need to continue supporting anti consumer AAA games
I get rarely but newer AAA titles but grab them later on sale. There will be a point when either my card fails or just can’t keep up. If I’m pigeon holed to only lower graphics games, so be it.
Eh just get into the used pc parts market and upgrade to the 5090 when it is made obsolete by the 7090
Yea, really I just wanted to piss and moan about Nvidia. Realistically, I’ll find alternatives if the need arises, but it won’t be to the tune of a $3k purchase.
Haha it’s ridiculous and they are basically using the Apple model where they charge obscene amounts for just more memory. It will only last while they have their AI moat. That moat is under a multi-pronged attack and will eventually lose one way or another
We can only hope.
Don’t worry. You can always just buy Skyrim again.
Or just move to a a console, the quality might not be the same, but it is way cheaper. This is one of the reasons people by consoles, they are cheaper and the games are optimized for it.
You can get very acceptable performance for fractions of the price of a scalped 5090.
After a while it’s not cheaper. 2080ti should already perform at the level or above a PS5 and console games don’t get the discounts PC games have plus most indie games aren’t even available on console.
And for real you don’t need a 1000$ card to game up to date AAA games, a 600-800$ PC can play fine at 1080p
Nah. I don’t have a computer to game, but I built my computer to game. Consoles at this point are smart data collection devices that also play games. I wouldn’t introduce that into my network at home. I could get a steam deck though…
$3409 for some proprietary drivers on my PC? No thanks.
Aren’t these the same cards that have been self destructing during driver updates?
Stop. Buying. Nvidia.
That’s about 10x more than I have ever paid for a gpu and will ever pay for a gpu. Who tf buys this at hose prices? You can go on a 3 month vacation to Thailand for that kind of money.
Well…The ones buying it anyway can do that in addition.
Or they wont. Depending on who you ask
Nice! They're cooking hard - At this point Nvidia should pay Epic to make next Unreal engine even slower
At this point why not charge $40,000. Morons will still buy them
Nvidia’s biggest finacial achievement in their gaming branch was fairly simple, getting rid of the “Titan” nomenclature. That’s it.
Before we had the XX80’ cards and that was it. All you ever needed for gaming was a XX80 Ti. That was the top of the food chain. Nobody ever expected you to have lr need a Titan card - that would have been ridiculous. The Titan card was a mix between gaming GPU and buisness GPU. It was for people who didn’t want to buy a Quadro Series for work and additionally a GTX/RTX Card for gaming. The Titan was the best of both worlds but came with a high price.
But now the XX90’ Series is essentially what the Titan Series was. Except now owning a XX80’ Series doesn’t feel like top of the line anymore. Simply by having a card in a generation with a higher “number” than yours, feels like there’s still a higher tier to achieve or like you’re still in “mid” tier, essentialy. Enough people fell for it and started buying the XX90’ Series as if it where a requirement for modern gaming. And after the XX90’ Series became mainstream, game developers stopped optimizing their max setting for the “mid” tier cards. This I why cards like the 4070 Ti or 4080 S still dip below 60 FPS on 1440p on maxed settings in some titles. 60 FPS on maxed is reserved for a 4090 - maximum settings, maximum graphical fidelity, maximum power consumption, maximum price.