ISPs created so many fees that FCC will kill requirement to list them all (arstechnica.com)
from FenrirIII@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 17:35
https://lemmy.world/post/37211733

cross-posted from: discuss.online/post/28602691

The rule took effect in April 2024 after the FCC rejected ISPs’ complaints that listing every fee they created would be too difficult. The rule applies specifically to recurring monthly fees “that providers impose at their discretion, i.e., charges not mandated by a government.”

ISPs could comply with the rule either by listing the fees or by dropping the fees altogether and, if they choose, raising their overall prices by a corresponding amount. But the latter option wouldn’t fit with the strategy of enticing customers with a low advertised price and hitting them with the real price on their monthly bills. The broadband price label rules were created to stop ISPs from advertising misleadingly low prices.

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shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 11 Oct 17:44 next collapse

Find the place with the highest fee, roll it into the base price that you offer nationwide. Problem solved. In the place where it’s exactly as high as that, you won’t make any profit. Anywhere it’s lower than that, you will make a profit.

bleistift2@sopuli.xyz on 11 Oct 18:01 collapse

Let’s be real here. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated” to list the fees. What’s complicated about listing a few numbers? The problem is that they don’t want to list a myriad of fees.

The fact that “tell your customers what you will charge them” is a rule that had to be instantiated in the Biden legislation is in itself a joke.

artyom@piefed.social on 11 Oct 18:29 next collapse

What’s complicated about listing a few numbers?

You should see my power bill

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 11 Oct 18:30 collapse

I agree. You should just charge one price, and that way customers know exactly how much it’s gonna be.

redlemace@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 19:07 collapse

absolutely right. Just like airline tickets, hotels and the like. Marketing got in the way… Look we only cost 5 euro but the 299.87 worth of fees we have to add and/or collect on behalf of others makes the price go up.

Well guess what, so has the competitors! And guess again: I don’t give a shit about that break-down, just give me the final figure. That’s what I have to pay. So that all matters doesn’t it? No need for you to tell me how you spend it, the money yours after the sale.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 13 Oct 05:33 collapse

i wonder if these “breakdown fees” allows them more wiggle room to sneak a extra fee the customer wouldnt notice.

redlemace@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 17:50 next collapse

I look into my crystal ball and foresee new fees, no later than 4 cpu clock-cycles after the kill of the requirement.

Static_Rocket@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 18:09 next collapse

This is so dumb, how could anyone at the FCC even humor such a request?

“Please help us, we overcomplicated billing and don’t want to explain it to anyone”

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 11 Oct 18:23 next collapse

It’s easy - ISPs just bribed the people running the FCC now (because that’s become an ok thing to do), and the FCC turns around and says “yep sounds good”

betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 18:34 next collapse

FCC Bribe Fee: $30.00
rafoix@lemmy.zip on 11 Oct 19:30 next collapse

Centrists and conservatives consider Brice’s to be speech.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 13 Oct 05:32 collapse

the first term they were angling to get rid of NN, which was distraction of the 2017 tax cuts, i remember tha tpeople were tired of the NN news they dint tune in the tax cuts.

Zak@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 19:55 collapse

This is so dumb, how could anyone at the FCC even humor such a request?

brendancarrisadummy.com

muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works on 12 Oct 02:22 next collapse

That just means the FCC will stop requiring it though. A class action can still beat them into submission. The lawyers benefit most from this but it still gets the job done.

muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com on 12 Oct 04:14 next collapse

Just use the competition that doesn’t do this.

monogram@feddit.nl on 13 Oct 04:46 next collapse

Hahaha what competition?

That would require a separation of fiber/copper, infrastructure from internet supply, (just like the electrical grid)

Most houses have only one connection, one choice, mum’s spaghetti.

muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com on 13 Oct 05:07 collapse

Starlink

monogram@feddit.nl on 13 Oct 05:08 next collapse

Okay Elon

muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com on 13 Oct 05:33 collapse

U have the choice its up to u. U have the right to let ur ideology force u into getting fucked by other telcos. Just remember that its a choice u made.

Valmond@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 08:01 next collapse

Smells like victim blaming here.

monogram@feddit.nl on 13 Oct 12:44 collapse

Option 1

Pressure, Vote (Left) for infrastructure that is inherently monopolistic to be state owned

Option 2

Let the only competitive option to only be accessible for billionaires, that dirties space travel and requires rockets to be continuously launched.

While defending billionaires.

MITM0@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 11:50 next collapse

Fuck of asswipe. You should know better by now. He overpromises & under-delivers. Not to mention scamming too

muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com on 13 Oct 12:23 collapse

As someone in rural Australia its better than any wired service we got

87Six@lemmy.zip on 13 Oct 11:58 collapse

Yea let me pay more for the base price than for everything combined to get a very shitty connection…

Makes sense if you’re a Muskrat, not so much if you’ve got one of those weird sponges in your skull

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 13 Oct 05:31 next collapse

we use Sonic, we were done with cable/tiered comcast. just hope none the legacy cable buys these other ISP which are faster.

MITM0@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 11:50 next collapse

That’s not good enough.

87Six@lemmy.zip on 13 Oct 11:56 collapse

Wait until everybody starts doing this sweet summer child

unphazed@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 04:58 next collapse

I won’t say who, but I used to work for a large telco. Seeing their charges, it was x plan with y equipment fee. I have had two other ISPs in the past 2 years, one of which was Comcast. I had x plan with no equipment fee (I just bought a cable modem, cause fuck leaving my router even slightly exposed). What fucking companies came up with these other bs fees? Or are we talking phones? Cause yeah, that’s all kinds of fee fuckery

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 13 Oct 05:30 next collapse

comcast was the worst. its thier tierd service, and trying to pedal thier "rent a router’ service. sooner or later they will be allowed to slow down peoples internets, to force them to buy more expensive plans.

gian@lemmy.grys.it on 13 Oct 12:27 collapse

Even talking about phones, having so many fees that you cannot list them all is insane.

candyman337@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 07:23 next collapse

This title is something that doesn’t make sense said in a way that makes it look logical. If they can’t manage their fees those fees shouldn’t exist. But that’s not really why this requirement it’s going away, it’s because they were bribed.

notarobot@lemmy.zip on 13 Oct 11:39 collapse

“FCC will kill requirements for isps to list all fees so that they can continue to add fees”