autotldr@lemmings.world
on 27 Nov 2023 19:20
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Many VMware employees learned Monday that their positions will be eliminated following Broadcom closing its acquisition of the company.
Employees whose positions were eliminated received an email on Monday viewed by Business Insider that said, “Broadcom recently completed its acquisition of VMware.
As part of integration planning, and following an organizational needs assessment, we identified go-forward roles that will be required within the combined company.
We want to make this transition as smooth as possible, including offering you a generous severance package and providing you a non-working paid notice period,” the email continued.
VMware had already begun job cuts prior to the acquisition closing, BI previously reported.
In the past year, several top VMware executives have left the cloud computing company.
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Tygr@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 19:21
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If your company is being acquired, you need to assume you, the employee, are disposable and not the reason for the acquisition.
HeartyBeast@kbin.social
on 27 Nov 2023 20:06
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Particularly Broadcom, which is where old technologies go to die.
CmdrShepard@lemmy.one
on 28 Nov 2023 01:06
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Isn’t that IBM?
HeartyBeast@kbin.social
on 28 Nov 2023 01:43
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There are several places - Computer Associates was the olther classic place - until it was bought by Broadcom.
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Nov 2023 19:13
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Oh, did they? Well that’s some shit that floats upwards!
Pacmanlives@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 22:26
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My current company is a step ahead. The engineer running workspace one left and they didn’t backfill, so its going to shit all on its own. Beat Broadcom to the punch by almost a year.
We are truly innovators.
bestnerd@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 23:13
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I tried to build an actual CPE team so we didn’t have to rely on sass shit but God the investment for in home code and shit is multimillion. So now we are stuck with these ducking companies
6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 27 Nov 2023 22:29
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Yep my buddy at VMware was waiting to get laid off all year. Finally happened two weeks ago
reddig33@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 20:15
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Mergers always mean layoffs.
otl@lemmy.srcbeat.com
on 27 Nov 2023 20:22
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Especially with their sizes: Broadcom has 20,000 employees and VMWare has 38,000.
tagliatelle@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 23:33
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VMWare has 38k? holy hell. I was surprised by slack having over 3k.
pezhore@lemmy.ml
on 28 Nov 2023 04:27
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Well, now they’re down to ~18k if rumors are correct.
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Nov 2023 19:19
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That’s over half? Gish, that’ll be absolutely brutal on the products and technologies… These aren’t calendar or email replacements, either - the core hypervisor and associated technologies are heinously complex. There’s just no way they can stay alive with that loss of I.P.
There goes the enterprise, I guess. I wonder if hyper-v will clean up in their absence?
I kinda hope proxmox or something FOSS will come through, but RE: the clustering and live migration stuff, I hate to think how well it works (I’m adjacent to this stuff, not working directly in it)
expr@programming.dev
on 28 Nov 2023 13:11
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VMware is shockingly massive. Hundreds of different products and many, many teams.
billwashere@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 00:59
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And Broadcom has a history of buying companies and squeezing every cent from them before they destroy them. I don’t expect VMWare to be around in 10 years.
otl@lemmy.srcbeat.com
on 27 Nov 2023 20:21
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“As part of integration planning, and following an organizational needs assessment, we identified go-forward roles that will be required within the combined company.”
Totally devoid of any humanity.
Corporate jargon freaks me out. It shouldn’t, but it really gets to me.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
on 27 Nov 2023 20:41
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It is jargon for sure, and bloviating to mask layoffs.
A merger will always have layoffs because there will be duplication of roles, especially in lower/middle management.
Some duplication may also occur in boots-on-the-ground roles, depending on the companies.
jdf038@mander.xyz
on 27 Nov 2023 21:00
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Maybe only masking in terms of trying to somehow make it seem justified and as a natural part of their company’s growth. But you’re not wrong.
zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 28 Nov 2023 19:27
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It’s “polite” and therefore right. The angry people are the ones being unreasonable and are thus wrong. They instead should write a calm sounding letter, submit it to the media that is totally not owned by the same shareholders that wronged them. /s
Bizarroland@kbin.social
on 27 Nov 2023 20:55
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Shareholders are the worst creation of capitalism so far.
It allows you to create anonymous gray masters that you must serve at any cost no matter how humanly heinous they are.
Also, the bad thing that can happen to the shareholders is that they lose a little money whereas the people beholden to the shareholders can lose everything they have including their souls, and all the shareholders have to do is say "I had nothing to do with it, I just bought a piece of paper, I didn't even get a piece of paper I got an nft" and wash their hands of the whole thing.
The fact that our retirement accounts are being used to fund the hedge managers that create small shareholders that run the businesses that fire us so that the large shareholders get more money now in hopes that in some theoretical future the small shareholders get enough money to enjoy our twilight years is absolute insanity.
jdf038@mander.xyz
on 27 Nov 2023 20:59
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I think it’s totally reasonable to be weirded out by corporate jargon. It’s so 1984 esque. It seems like it’s created to help capitalists do their best not to lie in legal terms while at the same time communicating to their shareholders that money matters while also still trying to put on a facade of humanity for the PR front.
That’s capitalism. It’s a system that is devoid of humanity. Money is above everything, including human life.
SuperSpaceFan@lemm.ee
on 27 Nov 2023 23:11
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It sounds more like an AI-generated statement
MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com
on 27 Nov 2023 23:12
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the uncanny valley has made verbal inroads.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
on 27 Nov 2023 20:22
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Paid time off and a severance and they don't have to return to office? Sounds like the folks getting laid off got the better deal
Etterra@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 20:27
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At this point, if you find out you’re getting or have gotten bought out, you should immediately just update your resume and start looking.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 21:47
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Although I agree, it is also nice to stick around and see what severance is offered as well. I’ve had friends who got paid out and were able to find a new job within a month of being let go and we’re able to pocket the extra money as a bonus. I get that it’s not always the case, and who knows if you will be so lucky to even find a job.
crit@links.hackliberty.org
on 28 Nov 2023 01:12
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I mean sure but be prepared, I think that’s the important part
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
on 28 Nov 2023 13:22
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When my internship was ending one of the Sysadmins gave some solid resume advice: make sure you can add at least one new skill to your resume every year. This forces you to keep your resume updated and gives you a warning sign for when your skills/tooling may be getting stale
bfg9k@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 21:19
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Guess I’m moving to proxmox
Free ESXi will also be killed off I bet
sebinspace@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2023 22:46
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I’ve been using PM for about a year now. It’s quite nice, although I’ll fully admit I’ve barely scratched the surface of what it can do. I’ve heard a lot of people transition to Prox and adapt fairly quickly.
iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee
on 28 Nov 2023 00:14
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It’s not… A walk in the park, and some stuff will have you manually editing files, as the UI might be missing those. But so far I’ve been a happy user for a bunch of years.
sebinspace@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 00:34
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Yeah, not unlike the Linux experience; there will be times where you have to touch and/or nano configs. If you’re comfortable with such things, excellent. If not… you fidna get comfortable.
wmassingham@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 13:32
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I can’t count the number of times I had to do that under ESXi, or do manual vSAN recoveries, so I found myself quite comfortable doing that in proxmox too (especially since proxmox is regular debian).
pezhore@lemmy.ml
on 28 Nov 2023 00:28
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As someone who moved to Proxmox for my 3-node homelab, good luck.
I find the automation for deploying VMs to be woefully incapable compared to Terraform/PowerCLI on the VMware side. Not to mention things like load balancing/DRS are flat out missing.
I managed to get it stable enough for homelab-y things like *arr, plex, DNS, etc - but at this point I would quit rather than use it in a production environment. Or maybe I would just look at bare metal kubernetes instead.
Water1053@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 01:44
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moonpiedumplings@programming.dev
on 28 Nov 2023 07:17
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Have you seen xcp-ng and xen orchestra?
emptiestplace@lemmy.ml
on 28 Nov 2023 08:57
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IaaS or gtfo? I would love to see more development in this area, but I think you might be covering a bit too much ground with “in a production environment”. Tons of smaller (and not so small) companies are still running piles of bare metal chaos and could benefit greatly from even the simplest Proxmox setup.
Hexarei@programming.dev
on 28 Nov 2023 12:22
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Huh, I use terraform for my Proxmox clusters without any major issues. What kind of trouble does it give you?
The biggest issue is being in aware of migrations for load balancing. If VM 1 is deployed to Node 1 with Terraform, then is moved to Node 2 at some point for load balancing, Terraform tries to recreate it on Node 1.
Also, I have a slight moral objection to one of the top providers being developed by a for-profit prison company.
You999@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Nov 2023 19:05
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Your use case sounds like kubernetes would be a way better fit as dynamicly scaling and load balancing is kinda the whole point of kubernetes.
Proxmox clustering is essentially just for adding redundancy and nothing more.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
on 28 Nov 2023 06:02
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I’ve got the project on my list to test oVirt.
gnurd@sh.itjust.works
on 27 Nov 2023 21:55
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First up in today’s most in-shocking new…
Socsa@sh.itjust.works
on 27 Nov 2023 23:54
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Wait how in the ever loving fuck is VMware worth $70B?
CluckN@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 00:01
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They run their servers on a $69.9B Yacht.
WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social
on 28 Nov 2023 04:23
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They're the single largest name in virtualization. Almost half of all companies using virtualization are using VMware. And that's a lot of companies. Companies who have to pay licenses to use it. That's a lot of worth.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml
on 28 Nov 2023 00:32
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I still fail to see how this benefitted anyone at either Broadcom or vmware
It didn’t have to. It had to benefit shareholders and stock prices, that’s it.
That said, you can be damn sure it benefited the executive teams at both companies, very lucratively. Anyone below VP level can get bent, of course, as is tradition with M&A deals.
Thcdenton@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 04:36
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Damn vmware was miserable enough to work with already. Guess broadcom felt like pissing in the piss lake.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee
on 28 Nov 2023 08:10
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What do I use now? I’ve tried virtualbox and it didn’t work well for me. Do I use Proxmox?
emptiestplace@lemmy.ml
on 28 Nov 2023 08:44
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Yeah, it’s solid. Also be sure to check out Proxmox Backup.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Nov 2023 10:58
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Proxmox for the win. As a complete hobbyist it’s been amazingly easy to use with enough features to keep me learning.
Check out Xen, XCP-ng (was Xenserver), and/or KVM.
juja@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 09:44
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What does this mean for the spring framework? Doesn’t VMware maintain spring these days ? Or is it unrelated ?
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 10:24
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Thankfully we have KVM still ticking along
vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org
on 28 Nov 2023 12:26
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I’m shocked. This definitely wasn’t predicted by literally everyone.
steeznson@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 13:59
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I’m curious about how the rise of docker/kubernetes has affected these companies. I would have thought VMWare and Oracle would have been affected by the fall in the use of tools such as Vagrant for VMs.
BellaDonna@mujico.org
on 28 Nov 2023 18:48
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I first used Vagrant a decade ago, I don’t think of them in the same product space.
badbytes@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 2023 16:57
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Article has paywall, I couldn’t pass.
malijaffri@feddit.ch
on 28 Nov 2023 17:21
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talent at VMware has started to leave the company because of uncertainty around the deal’s influence and hints from Broadcom’s CEO about ending remote work
From the get-go, Broadcom’s plan to buy VMware seemed far-fetched. The companies have little overlap, and with its massive price tag, the acquisition would rank among the highest ever in tech.
Yeah, this was doomed. It looks like nobody in the know was surprised. Customers, employees and analysts saw the layoffs coming.
I wonder where these people went. With the announcement of Apple’s gaming support, my bet is on that or over to Oracle to work on VirtualBox.
I’m already investigating alternatives for my company to move away from vmware for when it inevitably turns to shit. We have not forgotten the shit Broadcom pulled with Veritas and finally managed to move away from that fully last year. Azure Arc seems promising and I have heard that a lot of companies are already switching from an old colleague.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Many VMware employees learned Monday that their positions will be eliminated following Broadcom closing its acquisition of the company.
Employees whose positions were eliminated received an email on Monday viewed by Business Insider that said, “Broadcom recently completed its acquisition of VMware.
As part of integration planning, and following an organizational needs assessment, we identified go-forward roles that will be required within the combined company.
We want to make this transition as smooth as possible, including offering you a generous severance package and providing you a non-working paid notice period,” the email continued.
VMware had already begun job cuts prior to the acquisition closing, BI previously reported.
In the past year, several top VMware executives have left the cloud computing company.
The original article contains 333 words, the summary contains 121 words. Saved 64%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
If your company is being acquired, you need to assume you, the employee, are disposable and not the reason for the acquisition.
Particularly Broadcom, which is where old technologies go to die.
Isn’t that IBM?
There are several places - Computer Associates was the olther classic place - until it was bought by Broadcom.
Oh, did they? Well that’s some shit that floats upwards!
Yup. Warm up that resume and work on an exit strategy.
Uhh what does this mean for workspace one?
They will be gutted of talent, like all other vmware products.
It will get more fragile, with less updates and features, and likely cost considerably more when your renewal is up.
Ugh. I guess time start thinking of either birfurcating mdm or finding a uem that doesn’t cost an absolute fuck ton
Theres always intune, but yeah.
My current company is a step ahead. The engineer running workspace one left and they didn’t backfill, so its going to shit all on its own. Beat Broadcom to the punch by almost a year.
We are truly innovators.
I tried to build an actual CPE team so we didn’t have to rely on sass shit but God the investment for in home code and shit is multimillion. So now we are stuck with these ducking companies
.
That was fucking fast, interesting, maybe that makes space for the competitors than
They’ve had a year to work on the layoffs.
Yep my buddy at VMware was waiting to get laid off all year. Finally happened two weeks ago
Mergers always mean layoffs.
Especially with their sizes: Broadcom has 20,000 employees and VMWare has 38,000.
VMWare has 38k? holy hell. I was surprised by slack having over 3k.
Well, now they’re down to ~18k if rumors are correct.
That’s over half? Gish, that’ll be absolutely brutal on the products and technologies… These aren’t calendar or email replacements, either - the core hypervisor and associated technologies are heinously complex. There’s just no way they can stay alive with that loss of I.P.
There goes the enterprise, I guess. I wonder if hyper-v will clean up in their absence?
I kinda hope proxmox or something FOSS will come through, but RE: the clustering and live migration stuff, I hate to think how well it works (I’m adjacent to this stuff, not working directly in it)
VMware is shockingly massive. Hundreds of different products and many, many teams.
And Broadcom has a history of buying companies and squeezing every cent from them before they destroy them. I don’t expect VMWare to be around in 10 years.
Totally devoid of any humanity. Corporate jargon freaks me out. It shouldn’t, but it really gets to me.
It is jargon for sure, and bloviating to mask layoffs.
A merger will always have layoffs because there will be duplication of roles, especially in lower/middle management.
Some duplication may also occur in boots-on-the-ground roles, depending on the companies.
They’re masking it? Seems pretty plain to me.
Maybe only masking in terms of trying to somehow make it seem justified and as a natural part of their company’s growth. But you’re not wrong.
It’s “polite” and therefore right. The angry people are the ones being unreasonable and are thus wrong. They instead should write a calm sounding letter, submit it to the media that is totally not owned by the same shareholders that wronged them. /s
Shareholders are the worst creation of capitalism so far.
It allows you to create anonymous gray masters that you must serve at any cost no matter how humanly heinous they are.
Also, the bad thing that can happen to the shareholders is that they lose a little money whereas the people beholden to the shareholders can lose everything they have including their souls, and all the shareholders have to do is say "I had nothing to do with it, I just bought a piece of paper, I didn't even get a piece of paper I got an nft" and wash their hands of the whole thing.
The fact that our retirement accounts are being used to fund the hedge managers that create small shareholders that run the businesses that fire us so that the large shareholders get more money now in hopes that in some theoretical future the small shareholders get enough money to enjoy our twilight years is absolute insanity.
I think it’s totally reasonable to be weirded out by corporate jargon. It’s so 1984 esque. It seems like it’s created to help capitalists do their best not to lie in legal terms while at the same time communicating to their shareholders that money matters while also still trying to put on a facade of humanity for the PR front.
It’s so gross.
That’s capitalism. It’s a system that is devoid of humanity. Money is above everything, including human life.
It sounds more like an AI-generated statement
the uncanny valley has made verbal inroads.
Paid time off and a severance and they don't have to return to office? Sounds like the folks getting laid off got the better deal
At this point, if you find out you’re getting or have gotten bought out, you should immediately just update your resume and start looking.
Although I agree, it is also nice to stick around and see what severance is offered as well. I’ve had friends who got paid out and were able to find a new job within a month of being let go and we’re able to pocket the extra money as a bonus. I get that it’s not always the case, and who knows if you will be so lucky to even find a job.
I mean sure but be prepared, I think that’s the important part
When my internship was ending one of the Sysadmins gave some solid resume advice: make sure you can add at least one new skill to your resume every year. This forces you to keep your resume updated and gives you a warning sign for when your skills/tooling may be getting stale
Guess I’m moving to proxmox
Free ESXi will also be killed off I bet
I’ve been using PM for about a year now. It’s quite nice, although I’ll fully admit I’ve barely scratched the surface of what it can do. I’ve heard a lot of people transition to Prox and adapt fairly quickly.
It’s not… A walk in the park, and some stuff will have you manually editing files, as the UI might be missing those. But so far I’ve been a happy user for a bunch of years.
Yeah, not unlike the Linux experience; there will be times where you have to touch and/or nano configs. If you’re comfortable with such things, excellent. If not… you fidna get comfortable.
I can’t count the number of times I had to do that under ESXi, or do manual vSAN recoveries, so I found myself quite comfortable doing that in proxmox too (especially since proxmox is regular debian).
As someone who moved to Proxmox for my 3-node homelab, good luck.
I find the automation for deploying VMs to be woefully incapable compared to Terraform/PowerCLI on the VMware side. Not to mention things like load balancing/DRS are flat out missing.
I managed to get it stable enough for homelab-y things like *arr, plex, DNS, etc - but at this point I would quit rather than use it in a production environment. Or maybe I would just look at bare metal kubernetes instead.
What OS would you use for the bare metal install?
Probably Debian or Ubuntu LTS?
Have you seen xcp-ng and xen orchestra?
IaaS or gtfo? I would love to see more development in this area, but I think you might be covering a bit too much ground with “in a production environment”. Tons of smaller (and not so small) companies are still running piles of bare metal chaos and could benefit greatly from even the simplest Proxmox setup.
Huh, I use terraform for my Proxmox clusters without any major issues. What kind of trouble does it give you?
The biggest issue is being in aware of migrations for load balancing. If VM 1 is deployed to Node 1 with Terraform, then is moved to Node 2 at some point for load balancing, Terraform tries to recreate it on Node 1.
Also, I have a slight moral objection to one of the top providers being developed by a for-profit prison company.
Your use case sounds like kubernetes would be a way better fit as dynamicly scaling and load balancing is kinda the whole point of kubernetes.
Proxmox clustering is essentially just for adding redundancy and nothing more.
I’ve got the project on my list to test oVirt.
First up in today’s most in-shocking new…
Wait how in the ever loving fuck is VMware worth $70B?
They run their servers on a $69.9B Yacht.
They're the single largest name in virtualization. Almost half of all companies using virtualization are using VMware. And that's a lot of companies. Companies who have to pay licenses to use it. That's a lot of worth.
I still fail to see how this benefitted anyone at either Broadcom or vmware
It didn’t have to. It had to benefit shareholders and stock prices, that’s it.
That said, you can be damn sure it benefited the executive teams at both companies, very lucratively. Anyone below VP level can get bent, of course, as is tradition with M&A deals.
Damn vmware was miserable enough to work with already. Guess broadcom felt like pissing in the piss lake.
What do I use now? I’ve tried virtualbox and it didn’t work well for me. Do I use Proxmox?
Yeah, it’s solid. Also be sure to check out Proxmox Backup.
Proxmox for the win. As a complete hobbyist it’s been amazingly easy to use with enough features to keep me learning.
Check out Xen, XCP-ng (was Xenserver), and/or KVM.
What does this mean for the spring framework? Doesn’t VMware maintain spring these days ? Or is it unrelated ?
Thankfully we have KVM still ticking along
I’m shocked. This definitely wasn’t predicted by literally everyone.
I’m curious about how the rise of docker/kubernetes has affected these companies. I would have thought VMWare and Oracle would have been affected by the fall in the use of tools such as Vagrant for VMs.
I first used Vagrant a decade ago, I don’t think of them in the same product space.
Article has paywall, I couldn’t pass.
Try using this:
12ft.io
It’s an amazing tool that I use to bypass paywalls. It just works.
Thank you for sharing
In a previous article: Everything we know about what’s going on at VMware as employees leave in droves ahead of the $61 billion Broadcom acquisition
Yeah, this was doomed. It looks like nobody in the know was surprised. Customers, employees and analysts saw the layoffs coming.
I wonder where these people went. With the announcement of Apple’s gaming support, my bet is on that or over to Oracle to work on VirtualBox.
I’m already investigating alternatives for my company to move away from vmware for when it inevitably turns to shit. We have not forgotten the shit Broadcom pulled with Veritas and finally managed to move away from that fully last year. Azure Arc seems promising and I have heard that a lot of companies are already switching from an old colleague.