Is it safe to travel with your phone right now? (www.theverge.com)
from fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 13:44
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sloppychops@lemmy.ca on 24 Mar 13:58 next collapse

No.

db2@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 14:09 next collapse

Is it safe to travel with your phone right now?

taladar@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 14:28 next collapse

It hasn’t been safe to travel with a phone or laptop since at least the post 9/11 changes to travel rules, at least not into or out of the US and other oppressive regimes that spy on your phone on the border.

r00ty@kbin.life on 24 Mar 15:13 collapse

I've been to the US twice since 9/11 and neither time was I asked for my phone. Not to say it didn't happen before now. It happens in many countries if they decide they have even a tiny bit of suspicion.

But, frankly right now I would not travel to the USA for any reason.

entwine413@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 14:31 next collapse

Any headline that’s a question can be answered with No

char_stats@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 15:04 next collapse

Unless it’s a WH- question.

merde@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 16:29 collapse
Telorand@reddthat.com on 24 Mar 15:06 next collapse

If you’re in the US and a citizen, you do not have to divulge your password to the authorities or even a judge, per the 5th Amendment. However, they can force you to use your fingerprint or FaceID to unlock your phone.

If you think there’s a chance the police might want to search your phone, be sure that you have a difficult pin pattern or password to unlock your phone at a minimum. Consider if bringing your phone is necessary. If you’re going to a protest, do not bring your primary phone. Get a cheap burner or go without.

If you’re not a citizen, you need to think about leaving. Seek asylum anywhere but here. Vacation in Canada. The US is no longer safe for foreigners.

beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org on 24 Mar 15:42 next collapse

On Android, hold the power button until the menu shows up, them choose “lockdown”. The next unlock will require a PIN.

captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org on 24 Mar 15:46 next collapse

On iOS, hold down power and volume up (like you’re going to power down or go into emergency mode) then cancel. Next unlock will require your PIN.

Zectivi@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 18:36 collapse

Another way on iOS is pressing the Power button 5 times. Same result, but I think it can be accomplished a little easier.

MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca on 24 Mar 20:40 collapse

This can also call Emergency Services if you have it set up.

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 17:09 next collapse

“on Android” is a mostly useless statement. There are many flavours of it and they do not all behave the same. My phone does not have this.

beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org on 24 Mar 17:35 next collapse

I should have been more specific that this was a Pixel. Does your phone have a way to accomplish the same thing?

Player2@lemm.ee on 24 Mar 17:42 next collapse

Restarting should also disable biometrics until you put a pin in once

Bazoogle@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 17:50 collapse

I have a motorola running LineageOS and it’s available on mine. Seems like a relatively standard option, though it may need to be enabled under Settings -> System -> Buttons (or whatever it looks like on your flavor of android).

bubblewrap@sh.itjust.works on 25 Mar 14:04 collapse

Just a note - most LineageOS installs aren’t secure unless you re-lock the bootloader, as data can be extracted with some fairly standard mobile phone forensics kits. Unfortunately, not many devices support bootloader re-lock. The Google Pixel series is a notable exception.

Ideally, you would want a security hardened Android OS like GrapheneOS. Graphene only runs on Pixels as the development team specifically disallows it running on hardware with an unlocked bootloader for security reasons.

treadful@lemmy.zip on 24 Mar 20:02 next collapse

IIRC, you have to enable it on some versions of Android. I don’t see the option to disable it on my Android 15 phone but I do recall having to enable it before on older versions. A quick Google search for your version should help.

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 21:46 collapse

Negative, it is not available on my OS.

Lmao who downvoted me cause my phone OS doesn’t have a feature? Wild.

Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 20:46 collapse

Your biometrics work the first time you log in after a restart? That seems insecure to me.

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 21:40 collapse

That’s not what was suggested.

Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 22:40 collapse

Oh yeah my bad, I read “lockdown” and “shutdown” lol

kambusha@sh.itjust.works on 24 Mar 18:09 next collapse

Fucking Gemini comes up for me now when I do that…

Edit: there’s a system gesture setting to change it back. Search for power menu in settings.

soulBit@sopuli.xyz on 27 Mar 01:02 collapse

Appreciate you!

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 20:45 collapse

Or restart. When you first boot your device the drive is encrypted until you enter your code or password.

brandon@lemmy.ml on 24 Mar 19:10 next collapse

If you’re in the US and a citizen, you do not have to divulge your password to the authorities or even a judge, per the 5th Amendment. However, they can force you to use your fingerprint or FaceID to unlock your phone.

They can, however, probably seize your phone, and refuse to return it to you. Something to keep in mind when deciding to take your primary device, or a burner.

Telorand@reddthat.com on 24 Mar 19:46 collapse

Yep. They absolutely can do this with “reasonable suspicion” as legally valid justification.

pHr34kY@lemmy.world on 25 Mar 13:22 collapse

I’ve set my phone so it will erase if someone enters the PIN backwards (GrapheneOS duress code). It would be fun to watch the authorities wipe the phone.

I’d probably get deported over it, but whatever.

Telorand@reddthat.com on 25 Mar 14:26 collapse

No guarantees you wouldn’t get deported anyway, citizen or not. But always good to have a backup plan!

letsgo@lemm.ee on 25 Mar 01:10 collapse

Depends where you’re going. Anywhere first world with a robust democracy that invites opposition and criticism will be safe. Heck in the UK we’ve even got people who openly hate our way of life and want to destroy it.

But if you’re going to one of the less tolerant places where opposing the incumbent can get you in serious trouble, like Russia, North Korea, Iran, or the USA, probably best take a burner phone with some basic stuff on it that can’t possibly be interpreted as any kind of negativity towards the delicate leader and leave your main one switched off somewhere safe at home. In fact unless you enjoy risk it’s probably best to avoid places like that until they get some proper freedoms in place.