Bluesky now displays replies by 'hotness' (mashable.com)
from shoulderoforion@fedia.io to technology@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 00:21
https://fedia.io/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/1491606

Not everyone is happy about it being the default.

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BMTea@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 00:40 next collapse

To be fair having replies in order of time sucks.

mesamunefire@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 01:18 next collapse

It would be best to let the users to choose their own preference.

Assman@sh.itjust.works on 30 Nov 01:50 next collapse

You literally can. It’s a setting.

mesamunefire@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 03:57 next collapse

Good

RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Nov 05:51 collapse

Does it save the setting?

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 19:35 collapse

Yes. And furthermore, if you’ve changed the setting in the past, this new default sort change doesn’t override it.

BMTea@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 11:24 collapse

You can though I like it.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 01:58 next collapse

I prefer how X orders them based on how much money you give to Elon Musk

ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 08:34 next collapse

Why do you think that sucks? Chronological order makes everything easier to use and navigate

BMTea@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 14:10 collapse

It biases the first repliers

ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 14:21 collapse

Depends on whether it’s first-on-top or last-on-top…hot/popular biases engagement in obscure ways we can’t see through, which often (always?) ends up favouring trolls and rage-bait.

FarceOfWill@infosec.pub on 30 Nov 08:56 collapse

Weird you’re being voted down.

Who wants the terminally online to be the first five replies to every post? It should sort by op like/boost by default at least

Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca on 30 Nov 09:32 collapse

Me. I do. It’s better than the hive mind upvoting some stupid meme reply or some bullshit/misinformation.

FarceOfWill@infosec.pub on 30 Nov 10:39 collapse

So you only see misinformation if professional disinformation employees are paid to reply instantly, which, they are.

Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca on 30 Nov 12:37 collapse

I’m not seeing too many professional disinformation employees in here but sure that’s a thing.

LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 01:02 next collapse

X: Old and Busted

BlueSky: New Hotness

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 30 Nov 03:08 collapse

I guess I get why 𝕏 changed their short description on the app store to "🔥Blaze your glory" for a while a year ago now.

nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca on 30 Nov 11:38 collapse

Cringe af

200ok@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 01:45 next collapse

Has nothing to do with attractiveness. It’s the same “hot” vs “new” etc as any other sort

Chozo@fedia.io on 30 Nov 02:11 next collapse

"Engagement bait" is now the default option. Monetization is the next step.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 30 Nov 02:58 collapse

"Engagement bait" is also the default option on Lemmy, Mbin, etc.

Chozo@fedia.io on 30 Nov 03:13 next collapse

Not sure about Lemmy, but the default option on Mbin is "Hot", which is just chronological order with boosted comments pushed to the top. Boosting is basically just the microblog way of retweeting, and I believe will add an extra point to the score on the Mbin side.

Could be a bit confusing, since Mbin's definition of "hot" is 95% chronological, but Bluesky's definition has more to do with reply/like ratios.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 30 Nov 04:48 collapse

I haven't dived into the source code yet, but while it does seem to weight newness more than e.g. Reddit, it still feels much less than 95% and it's all based on the same principle that upvotes should also determine a bit of what you see. Keep in mind hotness is different from top, an option that Bluesky also has. (I also haven't been able to find which option Bluesky previously defaulted to.)

LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 05:58 collapse

Huh? Default is Scaled.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 30 Nov 13:50 collapse

That’s for posts, not comments, which is what Bluesky changed.

LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 15:10 collapse

I was talking about Lemmy

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 30 Nov 17:02 collapse

Yeah, by "posts" I meant posts to Lemmy/threads on the home feed. By "comments" I mean the discussion area for each thread.

FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 05:50 next collapse

Any% enshitification speed run GO!

Alpha71@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 06:20 next collapse

Post reply settings also include sorting by oldest or newest replies, most liked, or a random setting labelled “Poster’s roulette”.

Sooo… You can change the setting.

And?

ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 08:31 collapse

The fact they make this the default is the issue… The first babysteps to enshitification has now begun.

Melt@lemm.ee on 30 Nov 09:39 next collapse

This, should have made the previous setting the default one

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 19:34 collapse

It’s the default for most of Lemmy too.

latenightnoir@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 06:37 next collapse

I really shouldn’t read the news 10 minutes after waking up, my brain was sure this meant that Bluesky was turning into a dating app…

Akasazh@feddit.nl on 30 Nov 10:02 next collapse

So… . Whatcha doing tonight? ;)

latenightnoir@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 13:33 collapse

I have a hawt date with my bed, because I’m old and tired ;) :)))

Akasazh@feddit.nl on 30 Nov 20:25 collapse

Kinky

latenightnoir@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 06:56 collapse

Oh, yeah, I’ve been told to tone it down before, my bed and I share too fervent a passion for each other❤️

tja@sh.itjust.works on 30 Nov 17:23 collapse

Everything can be a dating app /s

(this is sadly true)

latenightnoir@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 18:17 next collapse

Hey, as long as they don’t gamify and manipulate things like MatchGroup do with their entire ecosystem, any app would be a better dating app than the dedicated ones…

devfuuu@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 18:26 collapse

And the best is still linkedin. Nowhere else do you get desperate woman insisting they want to talk with you.

Mandy@sh.itjust.works on 30 Nov 10:02 next collapse

The heck does that even mean

WindyRebel@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 12:44 next collapse

My guess is timeframe vs active interactions of posts. Like a short term popularity metric? Lemmy has it as a sort option.

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 30 Nov 18:24 collapse

They can rank replies any way they want.

Mandy@sh.itjust.works on 30 Nov 18:26 collapse

they can indeed, i simply do not understand what that would actually entail

Novamdomum@fedia.io on 30 Nov 10:17 next collapse

So I joined Bluesky over a year ago and have only ever posted a single message "Hi". I've also not liked or commented on any posts. Somehow (especially recently) I am getting followed more and more. I have over a hundred followers now. I'm guessing bots? It's the sudden recent surge over the last couple of months that's interesting.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 13:09 next collapse

The fuck??? I like posts all the time, followed 8 people, and have a few posts…I have 3 followers.

scytale@lemm.ee on 30 Nov 13:29 next collapse

My wife is on bluesky and she was telling me yesterday she has had a surge of random followers as well, most likely bots. What she was annoyed about is the block feature doesn’t get them to unfollow you or something. And a portion of the bots are porn repost bots.

devfuuu@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 18:23 next collapse

You know, they need to make it appear alive and that there are interactions and users so the value raises and people are engaged.

It’s how you make money as a company. For everyone else, mastodon.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 01 Dec 03:14 collapse

Everyone else what? Everyone else that enjoys smooching of free labor? Lol I like Mastodon but this is just a stupid reason to use it.

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 02:08 collapse

If you think they’re bots, you can just subscribe to a user-curated block list for bot accounts.

jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Nov 11:40 next collapse

So…like Lemmy?

ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Nov 15:20 collapse

No? Mine defaults to “newest”

jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 Dec 23:05 collapse

I think it can be configured and it depends on the client to allow it or not.

Godnroc@lemmy.world on 30 Nov 18:31 collapse

Funny thing, I had already set my preference to “newest first” and the change was respected after they implemented the new setting.