Russia's State Duma passes bill to create state messaging app as it considers blocking WhatsApp (kyivindependent.com)
from moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 09:53
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Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 09:57 next collapse

Not blocking telegram though. šŸ˜„

ceiron@europe.pub on 11 Jun 10:37 next collapse

Well that’s because Telegram is likely the state messaging app they’re talking about! šŸ˜„

Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 11:32 collapse

TouchƩ

Tetsuo@jlai.lu on 11 Jun 12:43 collapse

I assume this is just a joke… Because with the relationship Telegram has with the Russian government this would be quite unlikely.

altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jun 13:35 collapse

They do love the illusion of safety it produces. Recently it was confirmed TG’s infrastructure is managed by the same guys who do this for FSB. Google iStories for the investigation.

The new messenger would probably be Max, a newly announced app from the russian nephew of Meta, Mail.ru, now called VK after they bought this site from Durov. In last ten years they bought many popular sites, educational platforms, started businesses in many spheres. This helps that it’s managed by the son of a russian top beaurocrat, so I guess it’s on them to take another niche without any competition.

Tetsuo@jlai.lu on 11 Jun 14:58 collapse

Link to the mentioned story:

occrp.org/…/telegram-the-fsb-and-the-man-in-the-m…

I would say the link is bit more tenuous than you would present it. A Russian guy works for telegram with one of his businesses. Other businesses he owns are suspected of working with FSB.

To be sure, Telegram is most likely not very trustworthy but I thought that the fact they developed their own crypto would be suspicious enough so that people wouldn’t use it for sensitive information. Still it has not be confirmed that Telegram’s infrastructure is run by FSB.

altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jun 15:52 collapse

There are, like, a lot of arrows pointing in that direction but not yet connecting. I assume I can draw the missing part myself. But yep, the solid and direct link could’ve made wonders, but I’m pretty pessimistic about getting it until FSB archives get open to the public, probably after this regime’s critical malfunction. That’s not even the first question I’d like to research there if that happens.

I still prefer to keep only work communications and mild content there. Some russian expats reported border guards checked their sub list in TG specifically, so I pumped it up with all Z channels in mute mode, I leave reactions there if that matters anyhow to create myself a SFW persona. As long as it doesn’t matters if it tracks my geoloc, I think it’s better to have it because not having it makes you deviant and easy to point out.

I love Russia and it’s precious president Vladimyr Putin, who shares many qualities with the God-Emperor but one: he’s still alive.

HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jun 14:49 next collapse

Why block a popular messenger that has no e2ee by default and shady custom e2ee that doesn’t even sync between multiple devices users can optionally use? Sounds counterproductive

victorz@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:10 next collapse

that doesn’t even sync between multiple devices

Telegram syncs between devices for me. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø Not sure what you mean.

(Yes, I’m in the middle of transitioning away from Telegram. Just gotta export my data first.)

HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jun 10:27 collapse

I meant their supposedly secret chats. Last time I’ve checked they weren’t even available on desktop

victorz@lemmy.world on 12 Jun 18:18 collapse

Ah, yes. That’s correct, sorry I misunderstood you. Yeah that’s pretty lame that it doesn’t work on desktop. I remember wanting to use that several times.

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club on 11 Jun 22:13 collapse

Because it isn’t controlled by Russia.

logan_hero@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jun 11:46 collapse

I mean they tried once, did not go so well

Taalnazi@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 10:21 next collapse

Blocking whatsapp +1

Having a state messaging app -1

victorz@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 16:08 collapse

Blocking whatsapp +1

Having a state messaging app -10

State of Russia providing a state-controlled messaging service has got to be worse than WhatsApp, surely šŸ˜…

Wazowski@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 11:03 next collapse

BlyatsApp

Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world on 11 Jun 12:30 collapse

For those that don’t know russian, this would come off as an escort service app. )

boonhet@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 15:41 collapse

Isn’t that what Whatsapp and Telegram are already used for?

throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jun 17:23 next collapse

Russia is late to the party. WeChat has been here for a decade. Xi is disappointed.

atlien51@lemm.ee on 12 Jun 12:22 collapse

Fill it with gay porn