autotldr@lemmings.world
on 10 May 2024 14:00
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
In 2017, I played a part in the successful #CancelMaven campaign that got Google to end its participation in Project Maven, a contract with the US Department of Defense to equip US military drones with artificial intelligence.
Today a similar movement, organized under the banner of the coalition No Tech for Apartheid, is targeting Project Nimbus, a joint contract between Google and Amazon to provide cloud computing infrastructure and AI capabilities to the Israeli government and military.
If a strategically placed insider released information not otherwise known to the public about the Nimbus project, it could really increase the pressure on management to rethink its decision to get into bed with a military that’s currently overseeing mass killings of women and children.
It certainly wasn’t a spontaneous response to an op-ed, and I don’t presume to advise anyone currently at Google (or Amazon, Microsoft, Palantir, Anduril, or any of the growing list of companies peddling AI to militaries) to follow my example.
Back then, the company responded to our actions by defending the nature of the contract, insisting that its Project Maven work was strictly for reconnaissance and not for weapons targeting—conceding implicitly that helping to target drone strikes would be a bad thing.
Today it maintains that the work it is doing as part of Project Nimbus “is not directed at highly sensitive, classified, or military workloads relevant to weapons or intelligence services.” At the same time, it asserts that there is no room for politics at the workplace and has fired those demanding transparency and accountability.
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ASaltPepper@lemmy.one
on 10 May 2024 14:36
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I imagine some level of worker protection may be required to see success in this.
Seems like depending on what you bring to light you’re at best let go into a brutal job market. Or if you piss off Boeing you just die.
This is the military. You’ll just go straight to federal prison.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 23:59
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Tech workers need to unionize
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 May 2024 00:35
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I’ve been saying this pretty much since I started working in tech in 2005.
They paid too well for a while and gave nice lunches and free lattes while sucking 60-70 hours per week out if us.
I quit and fix cars now with hardly any retirement funds and shit health and dental care.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world
on 11 May 2024 01:13
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There are no more perks, just the soul crushing work.
applepie@kbin.social
on 10 May 2024 15:10
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They should set up a union first lol
RobotToaster@mander.xyz
on 10 May 2024 15:56
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I feel like they would need protection from sudden onset suicidality first.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 16:33
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No way in hell would I do that if I had that kind of knowledge. Look what happened to Snowden for doing something like that.
He would still spend the remainder of his life in federal prison or be executed if he ever steps back on US soil or the soil of someone with an extradition treaty that is looking to get some brownie points.
That wouldn’t happen to all of them, but I bet you there are some working on some classified mess that would be found and made an example of in short order to shut the others up.
n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 11 May 2024 12:09
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tsonfeir@lemm.ee
on 10 May 2024 16:39
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I think John Barnett is a good example of why they don’t “shine a light” or whistleblow
thesmokingman@programming.dev
on 11 May 2024 00:44
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This isn’t new. Check out Yasha Levine’s Surveillance Valley. It’s a nice primer. Most of our internet tech was built for the military or funded by the military for military ideas (no matter what MIT or Berkeley theoreticians might try to convince you of).
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
In 2017, I played a part in the successful #CancelMaven campaign that got Google to end its participation in Project Maven, a contract with the US Department of Defense to equip US military drones with artificial intelligence.
Today a similar movement, organized under the banner of the coalition No Tech for Apartheid, is targeting Project Nimbus, a joint contract between Google and Amazon to provide cloud computing infrastructure and AI capabilities to the Israeli government and military.
If a strategically placed insider released information not otherwise known to the public about the Nimbus project, it could really increase the pressure on management to rethink its decision to get into bed with a military that’s currently overseeing mass killings of women and children.
It certainly wasn’t a spontaneous response to an op-ed, and I don’t presume to advise anyone currently at Google (or Amazon, Microsoft, Palantir, Anduril, or any of the growing list of companies peddling AI to militaries) to follow my example.
Back then, the company responded to our actions by defending the nature of the contract, insisting that its Project Maven work was strictly for reconnaissance and not for weapons targeting—conceding implicitly that helping to target drone strikes would be a bad thing.
Today it maintains that the work it is doing as part of Project Nimbus “is not directed at highly sensitive, classified, or military workloads relevant to weapons or intelligence services.” At the same time, it asserts that there is no room for politics at the workplace and has fired those demanding transparency and accountability.
The original article contains 1,257 words, the summary contains 258 words. Saved 79%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
I imagine some level of worker protection may be required to see success in this.
Seems like depending on what you bring to light you’re at best let go into a brutal job market. Or if you piss off Boeing you just die.
This is the military. You’ll just go straight to federal prison.
Tech workers need to unionize
I’ve been saying this pretty much since I started working in tech in 2005.
They paid too well for a while and gave nice lunches and free lattes while sucking 60-70 hours per week out if us.
I quit and fix cars now with hardly any retirement funds and shit health and dental care.
There are no more perks, just the soul crushing work.
They should set up a union first lol
I feel like they would need protection from sudden onset suicidality first.
No way in hell would I do that if I had that kind of knowledge. Look what happened to Snowden for doing something like that.
He would still spend the remainder of his life in federal prison or be executed if he ever steps back on US soil or the soil of someone with an extradition treaty that is looking to get some brownie points.
That wouldn’t happen to all of them, but I bet you there are some working on some classified mess that would be found and made an example of in short order to shut the others up.
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I think John Barnett is a good example of why they don’t “shine a light” or whistleblow
This isn’t new. Check out Yasha Levine’s Surveillance Valley. It’s a nice primer. Most of our internet tech was built for the military or funded by the military for military ideas (no matter what MIT or Berkeley theoreticians might try to convince you of).