YouTube Shorts can now run up to three minutes (www.engadget.com)
from RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 20:09
https://sh.itjust.works/post/26119847

cross-posted from: sh.itjust.works/post/26119844

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conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works on 03 Oct 2024 20:14 next collapse

So, they’re videos.

If only there was a way to watch those.

silentdon@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 22:39 next collapse

They’re videos but worse in every way

200ok@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 01:16 next collapse

Is there a way to unsubscribe from shorts?

BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works on 04 Oct 2024 02:29 collapse

You can hide them with extensions, I’m pretty sure the one I use is called Unhooked, Revanced also works.

200ok@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 12:04 collapse

Thank you!

dan1101@lemm.ee on 04 Oct 2024 13:12 collapse

Videos, but vertical.

conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works on 04 Oct 2024 13:21 collapse

Didn’t realize that. Gross.

CosmoNova@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 20:18 next collapse

So they introduced shorts just to… lengthen them? The people behind Youtube are so incredibly lost it’s almost unbelievable.

Addv4@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 20:50 next collapse

They’ve begun to realize how they’re kinda impossible to really make a profit off of.

tempest@lemmy.ca on 03 Oct 2024 21:45 next collapse

Not that I disagree but how is tiktok doing it?

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 03 Oct 2024 22:12 next collapse

State owned media doesn't need to make a profit

Addv4@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 02:00 collapse

They don’t seem to be: youtu.be/BPWX5MYs5Zk

Chozo@fedia.io on 04 Oct 2024 07:35 collapse

Not really. I've seen plenty of sponsored YT Shorts, properly tagged and everything so YT's definitely got the infrastructure in place to monetize Shorts. But most sponsors aren't going to pay for a Short because... well, it's too short, so those tend to be few and far between.

However, Shorts aren't profitable for their ability to directly monetize your content, they're profitable for their ability to drive a LOT of new viewers to your longer-form content. The Shorts algorithm is very aggressive at referring you to channels you aren't subscribed to, and that has helped a lot of creators get very large followings, very quickly.

Thor/Pirate Software is an excellent example of this; he's always had a pretty decent following, but once he started putting out YT Shorts, his subscriber and view counts began skyrocketing, which has also overflown into new Twitch subscribers, as well. He started with a small but healthy community, and has blown up into a huge, multi-platform community, and has easily doubled his YT earnings since engaging with Shorts.

Shorts are very helpful to creators right now. More creators need to realize that creating YT Shorts is basically creating ads for your own YT channel, on YT, for free. It's probably the closest thing to "IRL money dupe glitch" that there is.

misk@sopuli.xyz on 03 Oct 2024 21:47 collapse

They introduced Shorts because TikTok threatens their monopoly. TikTok raised max length some time ago so they do it too. Now US is going to ban TT and they’re trying to clone some easy to implement stuff in hopes of getting users that won’t move to Instagram. Don’t see that happening because Google doesn’t understand what makes TT so popular. It’s kind of funny that TT recently implemented horizontal videos and it’s as half-assed as Google attempt at vertical ones.

Stovetop@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:58 collapse

I feel like we’ll be having the same conversation about YouTube Shorts in 10 years as we are having about YouTube Gaming today.

Which is to say none.

dditty@lemm.ee on 03 Oct 2024 23:18 collapse

One can only hope

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 03 Oct 2024 20:23 next collapse

You know, if I was going to ask for shorts to go in either direction, I would ask them to be shorter, because short shorts are better.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 03 Oct 2024 20:44 next collapse

short shorts are better

Can confirm, am male and have eyes. 😆

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 03 Oct 2024 20:57 collapse

Who wears short shorts? 🎶

Valmond@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:55 collapse

Eat my shorts!

CodexArcanum@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 20:44 next collapse

Can’t wait for 10 hour long reviews of Elden Ring, BUT VERTICALE AND LOOPS NOW!?!

KoboldCoterie@pawb.social on 03 Oct 2024 21:00 next collapse

I swear some of those long-form video essays on games have longer runtimes than it would take to just play through the game from start to finish, but that’s okay, I’m still here for it. Love me some excruciatingly in-depth analysis of video game minutia.

Stovetop@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:56 next collapse

That being said, that 20-hour postmortem video on Skyrim feels right given how long I’d guess the playtime is on most people’s savegames.

[deleted] on 03 Oct 2024 22:13 collapse

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popekingjoe@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 00:31 collapse

Karl Jobst makes such interesting videos. He’s an Absolute Legend.

CodexArcanum@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 22:40 collapse

I don’t know who really got that trend going. I’ve enjoyed up to hour-ish long videos on more or less anything, but a few years back the first truly excessively long video I remember is Whitelight’s 7 hour long overview/miniseries on Death Stranding. And to be fair, I did find that faster and more enjoyable than playing Death Stranding.

(Also I get why folks make them: more ads plus having that much watch time heavily biases the algorithm towards you so it’s more money overall. And the kind of person that watches 7 hour long reviews in the background (or while sleeping), aka me, certainly help weigh the scales for super long videos.)

But also, I kind of like when shorts are like a minute long or less so I can watch one when I’m like, on the shitter and not accidentally end up with a video essay. I mean 10 minutes used to be the limit of every youtube video! Will they introduce a new, even shorter format? Bring vines or blips back?

danjoubu@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:39 collapse

Vertical ;-;

CodexArcanum@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 22:30 collapse

Alright, I split the differance, I think that should make everyone happy.

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 03 Oct 2024 21:05 next collapse

So, they’re going to change the name to YouTube mediums?

thesohoriots@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:33 next collapse

They’re going full Australian coffee. YouTube medium shorts.

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 03 Oct 2024 21:57 collapse

YouTube board shorts?

ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 02:02 collapse

youtube bermudas.

tonytins@pawb.social on 03 Oct 2024 21:11 next collapse

Pretty soon they’ll be 10 minutes, and then longer, and eventually they’ll be just like any other YouTube video, except in vertical.

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 03 Oct 2024 22:10 collapse

with no video controls so you just have to watch the whole thing.

oh you missed something, better watch the whole fucking thing again, with ads of course.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 03 Oct 2024 23:17 collapse

Glad it repeats incessantly!

small44@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:13 next collapse

Normal videos too

xc2215x@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:16 next collapse

Seems pointless. Just make a longer video.

anubis119@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 21:24 next collapse

If my shorts were 200% longer, they’d be pants.

dmtalon@infosec.pub on 03 Oct 2024 21:33 next collapse

Top on my premium wish list is a way to disable them completely

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 22:15 next collapse

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dmtalon@infosec.pub on 03 Oct 2024 22:51 next collapse

Doesn’t help on my Nvidia shield

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 23:58 collapse
astropenguin5@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 23:14 collapse

Where do you find that menu? I can’t find it on my end

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world on 03 Oct 2024 23:56 collapse
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de on 03 Oct 2024 22:32 collapse

I have a couple browser plugins that make them vanish completely for me. Main one being “BlockTube”.

Only one being buggy is the plugin that should rewrite shart links to regular video links, so I can watch them if someone links them to me, but I can just interact with the video normally

dmtalon@infosec.pub on 03 Oct 2024 22:50 collapse

I primarily watch on a Nvidia shield. We have smarttubenext or something on there but I watch so much I want all the history/subs synced through to all devices. So for my TV it’s a pain.

I can hide them 30 days at a time from the browser but I’d live for them to not ever show up or show up under the subscriptions tab

mp3@lemmy.ca on 03 Oct 2024 22:06 next collapse

They should call those YouTube Capris.

TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org on 03 Oct 2024 23:01 next collapse

Oh no, I don't think my attention span can handle a full three minutes. That's like, a whole movie.

Uli@sopuli.xyz on 04 Oct 2024 01:22 next collapse

Hey, that’s longer than I can run.

0oWow@lemm.ee on 04 Oct 2024 01:24 next collapse

I block shorts, so they don’t run anywhere 🤣

Guest_User@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 02:01 collapse

How do you do that?

boreengreen@lemm.ee on 04 Oct 2024 02:20 next collapse

I think that is a setting in freetube. Also some browser extensions can do that.

Joelk111@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 02:51 next collapse

I use GrayJay/Revanced on Android and Enhancer for YouTube on Firefox (or any browser)

Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Oct 2024 09:11 next collapse

There are also uBlock Origin custom filters/rules that block all shorts, at least for Firefox/Firefox mobile and its forks AFAIK.

Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Oct 2024 16:29 next collapse

Actually, does anyone with the knowhow know if the rules and filters made for uBlock work any differently in Chrome, Firefox or Safari? Arent they just html and javascript?

I’m a humanist, and the last time I played with html was in the 90’s, so fuck if I know about anything thats happening beyond the ui.

Guest_User@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 17:02 next collapse

Good to know, I’ll search some out. Thanks!

IamAnonymous@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 2024 17:21 collapse

I need to find a way to block them on Invidious. Shorts just bloat up my Subscriptions page.

0oWow@lemm.ee on 04 Oct 2024 19:48 collapse

‘Tweaks for YouTube’ extension on desktop. Modified YouTube client on iPhone and/or Android. For iPhone you can also use Vinegar, Baking Soda, Shorts Blocker, and SponsorBlock extensions for Safari.

667@lemmy.radio on 04 Oct 2024 03:05 next collapse

The very first video on YouTube was 19 seconds.

Then videos got so long they created shorts.

Now shorts are longer than the first YouTube video.

We’ve come full circle.

A three minute short is not a short, it is a video lol

ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee on 04 Oct 2024 04:18 next collapse

Good news to those watching shorts (I guess) and completely irrelevant information to the rest of us.

Mr_Blott@feddit.uk on 04 Oct 2024 04:31 next collapse

Sorry I ran out of concentration halfway through your comment. Could you split it up into bite size chunks and spoon feed it to me?

BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world on 04 Oct 2024 09:46 collapse

There are dozens of us them (I assume)!

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 04 Oct 2024 10:01 next collapse

That’s not short.

rain_worl@lemmy.world on 05 Oct 2024 00:53 collapse

slowly youtube shorts get longer and longer, a disconcerning [sic] trend