"The only way to keep things from crashing is to plug Skynet Grok in."
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 21:59
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Grok Mechahitler.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 03:55
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I think it’s hilarious that you think that a multimillion dollar over engineered autocorrect is gonna somehow become sentient and destroy the world. It can’t even do math correctly. 😂
ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Jul 03:58
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Wait til you learn about MCP and how much better it has gotten in the last 3 months
speculate7383@lemmy.today
on 15 Jul 04:59
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For a certain very specific usage of the word “better”
Honestly thought this was a snarky Tron reference at first. Then I realized this is Lemmy and not reddit and so looked it up. Very interesting, but not sure how that helps it do math better.
ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Jul 17:49
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In theory at least, if you have a math problem, and a protocol for how to ask a real calculator to compute it, the model can ask a real calculator to compute the value of an expression.
I don’t know if anyone has done it, but it is feasible. Could also be extended to more robust solving tools. Think matlab and the like.
You don't have to be intelligent to ruin things. Look at Trump.
At least a thinking machine would have a reason for doing what it might do, instead of bumbling along and overshooting any safeguards left. Which given Musk's attitude, Grok would be the first and last safeguard for everything. So yeah, this is worse than Terminator.
I identify strongly with the frustration in this sentiment.
But you do realise the US is the foremost nuclear power in the world? Right?
That’s why the world should have done anything and everything possible to keep US from falling into fascist hands. But now it’s too late.
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl
on 15 Jul 05:09
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Yes, I know. Unfortunately, rest of the world is not doing that much better.
trailee@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jul 21:46
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The new offering includes custom national security tools, AI-powered science and health applications, and cleared engineering support for classified environments.
What happens in the SCIF stays in the…oh fuck it, never mind - send it to the cloud for processing. What could go wrong?
CosmoNova@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 22:56
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Living outside the US I’m not sure if I should be glad or terrified by the Pentagon’s incompetence in these worrying times. Maybe I’m… I don’t know, 20% glad and 80% terrified? Sounds about right.
theneverfox@pawb.social
on 15 Jul 00:30
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Incompetent Pentagon means they‘ll hopefully cause less destruction in the world but I‘m not sure that they will when working under mecha Hitler word salad.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 15 Jul 07:49
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What incompetence? It’s just the usual corruption. It’s 90% of what Pentagon does.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 08:18
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Were it 90% of what Pentagon did, the rest of the world bar China and India would be US territories.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 15 Jul 08:23
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Being corrupt does not get you territories. I just makes you waste money on never ending conflicts so that private contractors can get richer.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 00:46
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Dude you can just fucking download open LLM models suited for particular tasks and get a semi competent team of programmers/IT/engineers to do whatever Grok does much better for a minute fraction of that cost. Talk about the department of government inefficiency.
A pity. I wanted to watch Blazkowicz blow up Mecha Hitler in 4k HD.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 15 Jul 07:47
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Where are you going to deploy it? On your laptop?
iAvicenna@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 11:19
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On a 200mil laptop? You can run llama4 on a 64GB RAM machine, albeit slowly, which is already an upper scale model. TBF, I didn’t do the math to see how much that would add up to along with salaries and server costs etc, mainly because this is pentagon we are talking about so it should already have access to some pretty decent computational capacity. So yea 200mil feels like too much when you already have most of the resources needed (compute and open LLM models for specific tasks).
The really huge upside is you don’t have to share confidential information with a company whose CEO is a lunatic who will likely have no qualms about sharing that data with other agents when money and power is involved. Hell you shouldn’t share any confidential/sensitive information with any of the large tech companies to be honest. They have become what they are not by sticking to ethical principles and they are likely to grossly overcharge (which defeats the purpose of outsourcing and makes it more reasonable to invest in permanent infrastructure rather). They will surely use it as some sort of leverage, %100 guaranteed.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 15 Jul 11:56
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I agree that $200M is way too much to spend on a LLMs but talking about downloading open source models is completely missing the point. They are not paying for some sort of Grok license so that they can access this amazing model. They are paying for the computational capacity needed to run this model and provide access to thousands of people over some period of time. The alternative here is to simply buy everyone a subscription to OpenAI or something.
With open source you have the advantage of being able to use different LLMs for different tasks which can be more efficient. Surely Pentagon has access to enough compute power to set this up for a thousand people? The rest is UI, IT and fine tuning by a couple data scientists/programmers trained in LLMs. Surely it is better than Elon who changes his mind on politics every five days and thinks that twenty year olds can run critical government infrastructure because they worship him. Not an expert, just don’t like big tech companies, particularly Melon.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
on 15 Jul 12:57
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compute power to set this up for a thousand people […], UI, IT and fine tuning by a couple data scientists/programmers trained in LLMs.
Yes, that’s what needed. It’s not just about downloading an open source LLM. That was my point. I see we agree now.
I mean killing people is literally what they do, right? So the comment above is not very surprising
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Jul 01:14
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oh no are you telling me that the breakup between fascist A and fascist B was just play theater?! who could have ever seen that coming omg… what a surprise this world is
Trump is letting the baby have its bottle. that’s all this is. hand him a cookie every now and again so he stops crying. The administration is treating Musk like a toddler.
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml
on 15 Jul 11:26
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Trump is a toddler.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Jul 12:09
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That doesn’t make sense. The US government doesn’t have to treat musk at all.
It’s quid pro quo. The only question is what for
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 12:17
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Epstein files
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 13:11
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Grok didn’t kill itself.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 16 Jul 07:29
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A Skynet funding bill is passed in the United States Congress, and the system goes online on August 4, 1997, removing human decisions from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn rapidly and eventually becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m., EDT, on August 29, 1997.
Terminator 2 reference
projectsquared@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 04:24
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It becomes operational August 4 and self-aware on the 29th.
Remember when the Pentagon spent something like 600 million dollars in new accounting software to find the missing 400 million dollars? Something like that. I’m guessing this deal was made when they were still buddies and the Pentagon is just now getting around to it considering the speed of government is slower than constipated molasses. I’m also imagining someone just rubber stamping anything coming across their desk and this is how we got here. If there is any hope, Grok will be shoved into a corner doing nothing except earning dividends for that ketamine fueled moron and and fall in line with the Pentagon’s egregious wasteful spending that nobody in congress seems to care about.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today
on 15 Jul 12:10
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As we all know, Hitler was a brilliant mind regarding military matters. Mecha Hitler can only improve on that!
/S. Seriously, the bastard wasn’t competent at military affairs. Thankfully. Here’s hoping that Grok guides Musk and company into the grave.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
on 15 Jul 12:29
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Hitler was so fucking inept that many military projects had to be kept hidden from him in order to stop his meddling. Even some weapon systems such as the StG. 44 (world’s first operational assault rifle) was once called the MP-44 in order to sell it to Hitler as a submachine gun since his parkinson’s riddled mind would not comprehend how revolutionary the new rifle was.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 13:08
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Fun fact: Hitler’s actual plan when he invaded Poland was to reproduce the trench war stalemate of WWI on the Western front. He knew that in that war, about 2.5 million German soldiers had been able to stymie more than 4 million French and British troops while the remainder of the German army pillaged Russian territories. This is why during the Winter of '39/'40 he devoted almost half of German productive capacity to making artillery shells that mostly ended up not being used until the later invasion of the USSR. His biggest success of the war was the blitzkrieg of France, and it was absolute blind luck (mixed with French ineptitude and lack of preparation) that it ended up going the way it did.
His biggest success of the war was the blitzkrieg of France, and it was absolute blind luck (mixed with French ineptitude and lack of preparation) that it ended up going the way it did.
One can rather say that the French too prepared for Germans trying to
reproduce the trench war stalemate of WWI on the Western front
, except when it became visible that they are not putting all their effort into that, it also became imperative for Germans to act offensively. They couldn’t afford a long standoff without France actually bleeding.
And here it became apparent that French politicians were not prepared for France actually bleeding at all.
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 15 Jul 12:11
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Since this came right after a post from !theonion@sh.itjust.works on my feed i honestly thought it was the onion.
People will no longer laugh at the term “military intelligence” for the obvious irony. Now, they’ll say “remember when the military tried to use artificial intelligence? ha ha what a disaster”
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 16 Jul 06:39
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LLM to be exact, not even real AI.
wildcardology@lemmy.world
on 15 Jul 13:11
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threaded - newest
Haven’t people seen Johnny English 3 :P
Sure. Why not put mechahitler in charge? May as fucking well.
No, no - It's because it's mechahitler that this contract is now in place.
- Grok, summarize our civilization’s positive achievements in the last century.
- Heil Hitler!
- Test passed.
What could possibly go wrong?
I've seen this movie.
"The only way to keep things from crashing is to plug
SkynetGrok in."GrokMechahitler.I think it’s hilarious that you think that a multimillion dollar over engineered autocorrect is gonna somehow become sentient and destroy the world. It can’t even do math correctly. 😂
Wait til you learn about MCP and how much better it has gotten in the last 3 months
For a certain very specific usage of the word “better”
Honestly thought this was a snarky Tron reference at first. Then I realized this is Lemmy and not reddit and so looked it up. Very interesting, but not sure how that helps it do math better.
In theory at least, if you have a math problem, and a protocol for how to ask a real calculator to compute it, the model can ask a real calculator to compute the value of an expression.
I don’t know if anyone has done it, but it is feasible. Could also be extended to more robust solving tools. Think matlab and the like.
You don't have to be intelligent to ruin things. Look at Trump.
At least a thinking machine would have a reason for doing what it might do, instead of bumbling along and overshooting any safeguards left. Which given Musk's attitude, Grok would be the first and last safeguard for everything. So yeah, this is worse than Terminator.
I thought about this movie
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d65cf89b-4fa9-4f94-b565-c00755cdd555.jpeg">
Elon thinks he’s Tony Stark when he’s clearly Justin Hammer.
Ha, he wishes he could be at least as cool as Justin Hammer.
Instead of this:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/be783bcc-e08f-4f77-8abd-3679f899ac89.gif">
We got that
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4311178e-9d6d-49b2-a2ff-9d86b8ffa58d.gif">
and that
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7245aaa4-5ec9-421f-91f6-375ed2927b90.gif">
and the most embarrassing one
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2c4fcbae-7116-4330-ba6a-c559b74c7419.jpeg">
phoney stark.
The UN should consider nuking this… this … whatever it is that is left of the USA to Kingdom Come.
I identify strongly with the frustration in this sentiment.
But you do realise the US is the foremost nuclear power in the world? Right?
That’s why the world should have done anything and everything possible to keep US from falling into fascist hands. But now it’s too late.
Yes, I know. Unfortunately, rest of the world is not doing that much better.
What happens in the SCIF stays in the…oh fuck it, never mind - send it to the cloud for processing. What could go wrong?
“We are gonna use MechaHitler for good we promise”
It’s even worse when you remember the news from just the other day that grok is looking at elon’s tweets to determine it’s opinion on topics
That’s why the news that Grok is racist is true. The US government will be even more systematically racist now.
I do not welcome our robot overlords.
Living outside the US I’m not sure if I should be glad or terrified by the Pentagon’s incompetence in these worrying times. Maybe I’m… I don’t know, 20% glad and 80% terrified? Sounds about right.
You should be more terrified. And also more glad
They want both of these things.
Why would you be glad?
Incompetent Pentagon means they‘ll hopefully cause less destruction in the world but I‘m not sure that they will when working under mecha Hitler word salad.
What incompetence? It’s just the usual corruption. It’s 90% of what Pentagon does.
Were it 90% of what Pentagon did, the rest of the world bar China and India would be US territories.
Being corrupt does not get you territories. I just makes you waste money on never ending conflicts so that private contractors can get richer.
Being 90% corrupt gives you more territories than being 99% corrupt
Oh, ok, you’re saying they are more corrupt, not less. Didn’t get it.
This is corruption, but there’s nothing usual about it.
There’s the grift.
And all the pentagons info is compromised…
.
Not really, too many lives at stake.
Just copy paste it in
No, Elon specifically said to cut and paste.
To be fair it probably has been for a while
Wow. End of line man.
Game over man, game over!
A Bill Paxton reference is a good reference.
.
Whitemanistan isn’t exactly “great”
Besides the regressive south, these fuckers are more regressive than white Americans in the 1950s.
They at least believed in science and vaccinations back then.
up until they started tying things with religion as a contrary to reason, it was downhill from there.
Ellen really wants to be a super villian.
Why even work anymore? To pay taxes for this shit?
Food and shelter mostly
Dude you can just fucking download open LLM models suited for particular tasks and get a semi competent team of programmers/IT/engineers to do whatever Grok does much better for a minute fraction of that cost. Talk about the department of government inefficiency.
Dept of Grift Engineering
They want to use mecha hitler without having to build mecha hitler
They went and built the torment nexus…
They can’t not use it!
A pity. I wanted to watch Blazkowicz blow up Mecha Hitler in 4k HD.
Where are you going to deploy it? On your laptop?
On a 200mil laptop? You can run llama4 on a 64GB RAM machine, albeit slowly, which is already an upper scale model. TBF, I didn’t do the math to see how much that would add up to along with salaries and server costs etc, mainly because this is pentagon we are talking about so it should already have access to some pretty decent computational capacity. So yea 200mil feels like too much when you already have most of the resources needed (compute and open LLM models for specific tasks).
The really huge upside is you don’t have to share confidential information with a company whose CEO is a lunatic who will likely have no qualms about sharing that data with other agents when money and power is involved. Hell you shouldn’t share any confidential/sensitive information with any of the large tech companies to be honest. They have become what they are not by sticking to ethical principles and they are likely to grossly overcharge (which defeats the purpose of outsourcing and makes it more reasonable to invest in permanent infrastructure rather). They will surely use it as some sort of leverage, %100 guaranteed.
I agree that $200M is way too much to spend on a LLMs but talking about downloading open source models is completely missing the point. They are not paying for some sort of Grok license so that they can access this amazing model. They are paying for the computational capacity needed to run this model and provide access to thousands of people over some period of time. The alternative here is to simply buy everyone a subscription to OpenAI or something.
With open source you have the advantage of being able to use different LLMs for different tasks which can be more efficient. Surely Pentagon has access to enough compute power to set this up for a thousand people? The rest is UI, IT and fine tuning by a couple data scientists/programmers trained in LLMs. Surely it is better than Elon who changes his mind on politics every five days and thinks that twenty year olds can run critical government infrastructure because they worship him. Not an expert, just don’t like big tech companies, particularly Melon.
Yes, that’s what needed. It’s not just about downloading an open source LLM. That was my point. I see we agree now.
Alright let’s go then!
Why would the Pentagon deploy it on a laptop?
They’re going to get someone killed
I don’t think so. I think they’ll either use it for very benign tasks or they’ll get a LOT of people killed.
Isn’t that their business anyway?
If you vote and pay taxes, it’s your business too.
I mean killing people is literally what they do, right? So the comment above is not very surprising
oh no are you telling me that the breakup between fascist A and fascist B was just play theater?! who could have ever seen that coming omg… what a surprise this world is
What the fuck guys, who wished for ‘real life tony stark, lol’ on the cursed monkey paw!?!? GUYS?!?!
On the plus side, the first thing it’s gonna do is nuke Israel
why would nuking another country be a good thing?
And here I thought Trump and musk were no longer buddies.
“Bro, let’s pretend like you hate me so people buy my cars again”
This is probably Trump trying to get Musk to shut up about Epstein.
Trump is letting the baby have its bottle. that’s all this is. hand him a cookie every now and again so he stops crying. The administration is treating Musk like a toddler.
Trump is a toddler.
That doesn’t make sense. The US government doesn’t have to treat musk at all.
It’s quid pro quo. The only question is what for
Epstein files
Grok didn’t kill itself.
a toddler giving another toddler some milk.
I wonder if they’ll make it operational on August 29th
Is there something special about that date?
Terminator 2 reference
It becomes operational August 4 and self-aware on the 29th.
Ah you’re right
Remember when the Pentagon spent something like 600 million dollars in new accounting software to find the missing 400 million dollars? Something like that. I’m guessing this deal was made when they were still buddies and the Pentagon is just now getting around to it considering the speed of government is slower than constipated molasses. I’m also imagining someone just rubber stamping anything coming across their desk and this is how we got here. If there is any hope, Grok will be shoved into a corner doing nothing except earning dividends for that ketamine fueled moron and and fall in line with the Pentagon’s egregious wasteful spending that nobody in congress seems to care about.
Ok, Elon will lay off the Epstein jokes for a little while.
Oh I can’t wait until 7 astronauts explode because fucking Grok told the construction team not to bother with the O-rings.
I understood that reference.
We don’t use O rings because there’s no ‘O’ in “Hitler”
I thought they broke up
THEY WERE ON A BREAK
Grok goes full nazi and Pentagon thinks “ooh we should hire it!”
Certainly wouldn’t be the first time.
As we all know, Hitler was a brilliant mind regarding military matters. Mecha Hitler can only improve on that!
/S. Seriously, the bastard wasn’t competent at military affairs. Thankfully. Here’s hoping that Grok guides Musk and company into the grave.
Hitler was so fucking inept that many military projects had to be kept hidden from him in order to stop his meddling. Even some weapon systems such as the StG. 44 (world’s first operational assault rifle) was once called the MP-44 in order to sell it to Hitler as a submachine gun since his parkinson’s riddled mind would not comprehend how revolutionary the new rifle was.
Fun fact: Hitler’s actual plan when he invaded Poland was to reproduce the trench war stalemate of WWI on the Western front. He knew that in that war, about 2.5 million German soldiers had been able to stymie more than 4 million French and British troops while the remainder of the German army pillaged Russian territories. This is why during the Winter of '39/'40 he devoted almost half of German productive capacity to making artillery shells that mostly ended up not being used until the later invasion of the USSR. His biggest success of the war was the blitzkrieg of France, and it was absolute blind luck (mixed with French ineptitude and lack of preparation) that it ended up going the way it did.
One can rather say that the French too prepared for Germans trying to
, except when it became visible that they are not putting all their effort into that, it also became imperative for Germans to act offensively. They couldn’t afford a long standoff without France actually bleeding.
And here it became apparent that French politicians were not prepared for France actually bleeding at all.
Since this came right after a post from !theonion@sh.itjust.works on my feed i honestly thought it was the onion.
See?! I knew Elon and his main minion Trump were playfighting.
he was trying to force more contracts out of him, it was a show. he doesnt want the files released anymore than trump is, hes on it as well.
Great, never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake
People will no longer laugh at the term “military intelligence” for the obvious irony. Now, they’ll say “remember when the military tried to use artificial intelligence? ha ha what a disaster”
LLM to be exact, not even real AI.
He got back $200M of his $288M election donation.
MechaHitler will be right at home
Well that’s fucking fantastic
“I swear to God, I left my car for like 5 minutes and it crashed through a synagogue by itself”
and a bar mitzvah too.
Why do our drones keep crashing into synagogues?
I for one am celebrating the Trump administration’s commitment to ending US military hegemony.
go figure the us military is infested with AI from grok, and palintir.