Reddit is dropping subscriber counts on subreddits: Users will now see seven-day metrics that track active visitors and contributions instead.
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from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 10 Sep 13:59
https://programming.dev/post/37203331
from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 10 Sep 13:59
https://programming.dev/post/37203331
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37201414
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seems to make sense on the surface. inactive users are kind of a useless metric.
lol, watch YouTube do the same and creators flip the fuck out.
I thought they already are doing that?
That’s news to me. They took away subscriber numbers? YouTubers still talk about them.
And this is the number behind the plaques they send out to people. I can’t image them stopping that. They won’t send plaques based on weekly average activity numbers.
I was thinking of the drop in views that some creators are reporting... not subscribers. My bad!
to be fair, a minority of video creators (and nearly no subreddits) have very long or sporadic upload schedules, which would make the MAU metric be weird bursts. MAU works for regular content which Reddit pretty much always is while only the top YouTube creators do that.
Weekly active users.
Also, just show the new stat. No need to hide the subscriber total.
So for a channel that releases like 10 videos a year?
Tbh I could probably think of something but really what is even the point in it? Like it doesn’t even matter to me how many people are watching a youtube video. At least a community on lemmy the active users are the people you are talking to. But watching a video is the same with 1 or 1B views.
Remember that my original comment was pointing out that YouTubers would flip out if they switched to this metric.
I agree with you.
Weekly would make the weird bursting even worse.
This kind of already happens there though. Video view counts are visible and often way below a channel's sub count.
Sure, there are exceptions (viral video views often far exceeding the sub count), but by and large they're a good metric for seeing how a channel is actually doing.
Yeah, you can infer it.
But no one is making a thank you video because they reached a weekly active users metric.
This is an issue with Lemmy too. Searching for a community by keyword ranks the results list by subscribers not by MAUs
Piefed 1.2 will fix this.
I need to make the switch
Piefed is awesome. I really like Scheduled Posts, as well as Feeds (which are collections of communities). There are only a couple reasons why keep my lemmy.world account: uploading images in comments is difficult in piefed, and I don't think piefed supports custom preview for youtube videos yet. But I imagine those will be fixed at some point in the near future.
Hmm these are some pretty cool features I’d be interested in. I currently use Voyager for lemmy and quite like the layout. Does Piefed have any good mobile clients? Is there something you’d recommend?
dunno I don't use mobile clients for piefed... I think there's one but don't know much about it.
I highly recommend it. I daily crust because I don't mind if something breaks and I figure it's probably useful having a few people consistently using it so they can alert devs if something is fucked.
How do you switch? Is it a different app? I’m using boost atm for Lemmy
Wait. We get pie?
Where do I claim said pie?
No that’s not how this works. You get free pie by agreeing to the ToS that agreed to being forced-fed said pie. 👀
Okay. But where is the pie?
Two doors down on the left. Be careful tho if you go to the third door unspeakable horrors lay there.
The first door on the left is the bathroom btw.
Sort by “Top-Month”
Subscriber count is also used in fields that cannot be sorted (e.g. when searching for a community for cross-posting).
Lemmy has this problem too, its why many think .ml has all these huge comms, but thankfully by MAUs, only like Linux and Privacy are top
(What's the problem with Lemmy.ml?)
To be fair, just give users ALL the data. Boom "problem" solved.
One of the rare changes Reddit has made in recent years that seems like a good idea.
They're also moving to limit the number of large subreddits that any individual moderator account can moderate, which seems like a good thing. Hopefully they'll be serious enough about it that they'll bother to catch the power moderators that simply set up a bunch of different alts for themselves.
Why would they do anything to limit their free labour?
Many of the power mods are in league with the admins, so probably not
I dunno why they wouldn’t display both. Also cynical me thinks this is a more useful change for advertisers than users.
That said this would probably be useful for post ranking on the back end, if they’re not already using it. There’s always been a noticeable thing on reddit where posts on large subs with little activity don’t seem to bubble up much on /r/popular. Which makes those subs seem even deader because they don’t get new blood.
They don’t want to show both because that would show readers exactly when a couple thousand new accounts all start talking about one polarising topic to get everyone agreeing.
That likely happens yes
If I’ve learned anything about the corporate world is that they only want metrics that confirm the views they hold or want to push. I think you have a point though. These are metrics that they can reference when trying to get advertising money. If I was an advertiser I’d care more about how many are not bots though.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
NSFW
In the ass or in the pussy?
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Feck Reddit & Feck Spaz in particular.
I'm already contributing by reading about it here!
They don’t have users on Reddit. They have metrics generating units.
It’s easier to hide the bots this way.
The opposite of it actually. It’s harder to hide suspicious spikes in activity this way
Yeah it was a useless metric anyways. What I’ve found is that people use that number to as evidence to some rhetoric. Pretty much every time I point out it’s a useless metric they become very angry.