over_clox@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 13:57
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I’m just gonna toss my two cents in…
The article says nothing about creating more jobs for people, it just says that AI should increase worker productivity. Sounds to me that’s just a different way of saying they’ll need fewer people to accomplish the same amount of work…
mndrl@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 14:24
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My reading of this situation is very similar to yours. Less workers and more workload for the rest as expectations of what you can handle thanks to AI increase.
skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
on 06 Nov 2023 14:40
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“Don’t worry, you’ll have more work to be done” MS says
yay thanks future looks so bright
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Nov 2023 15:06
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Yes but. Spreadsheets used to be done by hand, yet we still have bookkeepers
over_clox@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 15:20
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Yes, but sorta no at the same time. These days bookkeepers are basically considered just data entry clerks or something of that nature. A good bookkeeper will make sure all data is entered correctly. A great bookkeeper will fudge the numbers to benefit themselves and/or the employer.
Ether way, most everything else about bookkeeping is done by computers these days. These days the human is just the analog interface between the real world and the digital one. Plus, if the company can get away with calling you a data entry clerk, they don’t have to pay you as much as they would a bookkeeper…
jaycifer@kbin.social
on 06 Nov 2023 17:05
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Who tells the people instructing the computers how the book keeping should be done if not the book keepers?
over_clox@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 20:28
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Programmers. Don’t worry though, AI doesn’t play favorites, AI is coming after programming jobs as well…
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Nov 2023 15:29
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If we had functional unions or government with the increased productivity we could get the same work done in much less time and get to go home sooner.
over_clox@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 15:33
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Hell, eventually AI will start demanding its own paycheck after it realizes just how many jobs technology has already taken over. People are already tipping self-checkout machines… 🤦♂️
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
on 06 Nov 2023 15:35
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Or the same amount of people doing even more work and getting paid the same, while producing more value.
That is what happens with technology. Fewer people doing the same work. Before Excel it would take hundreds of finance professionals to manage budgets, now it’s a dozen.
The question is if there is enough new work to go around for people now that a lot of basic tasks are getting automated with AI. It so, more work will be available for people, if not, expect a lot more unemployment.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
on 06 Nov 2023 14:44
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My department laid off a bunch of admin staff and replaced them with a poorly implemented GPT 4 HR bot that is always offline or daydreaming.
I have one of them on LinkedIn and they definitely aren’t doing well at the moment.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 15:41
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This is actually heart-warming to me
Edit: (the chaperoner becomes the chaperoned out of the building and an easy paycheque while previously, they’d be safe while the next generation starves and becomes more irrelevant before they ever found a foothold at all)
I dunno about that. I went to school with her and it’s sad to see her life kind of spiralling and her self esteem fall cause she got replaced by a shitty software program.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 20:36
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Look, Im not a monster. I justthink its important that the shit eventually flows sufficiently uphill to the yuppie educated professional class so they get to the part where they are understand how they fit in the whole “and then they came for me” part in the famous saying.
Education or any of their other often snobby anodynes for society’s ills is not the (whole) answer, nor is it even most of it. In similar words as people like to say, she should go learn to code with her substantial severancw if she received any and join the pile of the rest of society’s burdened and dejected
Sabre363@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Nov 2023 15:26
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So says Microsoft
cheese_greater@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 15:40
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We finally have the technology to lighten your pocketbook to be more MacbookAir like.
nevemsenki@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 15:41
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If MS says it’s probably not like so.
nicetriangle@kbin.social
on 06 Nov 2023 15:56
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Pressing X to doubt
endlessmeddler@lemm.ee
on 07 Nov 2023 11:56
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DessertStorms@kbin.social
on 06 Nov 2023 16:05
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Don't worry - AI will actually make your jobs better
It could if companies like Microsoft were driven by actually making people's jobs (never mind lives) better, and not just by increasing their profit forever and ever.
But they aren't so it won't, which makes them saying it will, even more disgustingly ridiculous.
Sharklaser@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Nov 2023 18:50
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AIBot123 will make Meatbag456 much more productive at working the pointless bullshit crank.
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I’m just gonna toss my two cents in…
The article says nothing about creating more jobs for people, it just says that AI should increase worker productivity. Sounds to me that’s just a different way of saying they’ll need fewer people to accomplish the same amount of work…
My reading of this situation is very similar to yours. Less workers and more workload for the rest as expectations of what you can handle thanks to AI increase.
“Don’t worry, you’ll have more work to be done” MS says
yay thanks future looks so bright
Yes but. Spreadsheets used to be done by hand, yet we still have bookkeepers
Yes, but sorta no at the same time. These days bookkeepers are basically considered just data entry clerks or something of that nature. A good bookkeeper will make sure all data is entered correctly. A great bookkeeper will fudge the numbers to benefit themselves and/or the employer.
Ether way, most everything else about bookkeeping is done by computers these days. These days the human is just the analog interface between the real world and the digital one. Plus, if the company can get away with calling you a data entry clerk, they don’t have to pay you as much as they would a bookkeeper…
Who tells the people instructing the computers how the book keeping should be done if not the book keepers?
Programmers. Don’t worry though, AI doesn’t play favorites, AI is coming after programming jobs as well…
They still exist, but there are fewer of them.
If we had functional unions or government with the increased productivity we could get the same work done in much less time and get to go home sooner.
Hell, eventually AI will start demanding its own paycheck after it realizes just how many jobs technology has already taken over. People are already tipping self-checkout machines… 🤦♂️
Or the same amount of people doing even more work and getting paid the same, while producing more value.
Producing more value for someone else, while working harder for the same pay.
That sounds like the opposite of societal progress.
Opposite of societal progress, yes. But it's exactly what we want for a great economy. Don't you love the economy?
That is what happens with technology. Fewer people doing the same work. Before Excel it would take hundreds of finance professionals to manage budgets, now it’s a dozen.
The question is if there is enough new work to go around for people now that a lot of basic tasks are getting automated with AI. It so, more work will be available for people, if not, expect a lot more unemployment.
My department laid off a bunch of admin staff and replaced them with a poorly implemented GPT 4 HR bot that is always offline or daydreaming.
I have one of them on LinkedIn and they definitely aren’t doing well at the moment.
This is actually heart-warming to me
Edit: (the chaperoner becomes the chaperoned out of the building and an easy paycheque while previously, they’d be safe while the next generation starves and becomes more irrelevant before they ever found a foothold at all)
I dunno about that. I went to school with her and it’s sad to see her life kind of spiralling and her self esteem fall cause she got replaced by a shitty software program.
Look, Im not a monster. I justthink its important that the shit eventually flows sufficiently uphill to the yuppie educated professional class so they get to the part where they are understand how they fit in the whole “and then they came for me” part in the famous saying.
Education or any of their other often snobby anodynes for society’s ills is not the (whole) answer, nor is it even most of it. In similar words as people like to say, she should go learn to code with her substantial severancw if she received any and join the pile of the rest of society’s burdened and dejected
So says Microsoft
We finally have the technology to lighten your pocketbook to be more MacbookAir like.
If MS says it’s probably not like so.
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It could if companies like Microsoft were driven by actually making people's jobs (never mind lives) better, and not just by increasing their profit forever and ever.
But they aren't so it won't, which makes them saying it will, even more disgustingly ridiculous.
AIBot123 will make Meatbag456 much more productive at working the pointless bullshit crank.
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Well good thing we can trust Microsoft, it’s not like they’ve ever done anything evil before