Enkers@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Feb 2025 18:31
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I wonder if this has anything to do with Intel’s big snafu with gen 13/14 processors. If the solution was to push a microcode update cuts the voltage to the CPUs, it’s basically a “stealth” nerf. Their spin doctors have been working overtime to frame this as erroneously high voltages that were being “fixed”.
I’d really like to see this graph divided between Intel and AMD.
shoulderoforion@fedia.io
on 11 Feb 2025 19:51
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i used to put orange stealth nefs up my nose as a child
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com
on 11 Feb 2025 21:44
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Did that speed things up for you?
shoulderoforion@fedia.io
on 11 Feb 2025 21:45
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no, and it cut down on the airflow to my processor
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
on 11 Feb 2025 21:54
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How do we spin this as an upgrade?
Natanael@infosec.pub
on 12 Feb 2025 03:24
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Did it stop coolant leak though?
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 11 Feb 2025 19:46
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How can this even be possible? A drop in CPU performance on average?
It’s not really the decrease that’s the news here because that decrease is within a margin of error due to other factors. What’s the real news is that the graph has been flat for two consecutive years which is mind boggling!*
I rarely use exclamation marks, sorry about that.
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 11 Feb 2025 20:44
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SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE@lemm.ee
on 17 Feb 16:59
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I love your username!
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 11 Feb 2025 20:53
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Anyhow, you're right something is not going great. Although I upgraded to a great Threadripper platform now and we do have great AMD laptop processors. It could have multiple causes:
Doing below 4nm, 3nm, and 2 nm will give more and more issues, we are basically hitting a wall. Since quantum effects are increasingly becoming an issue at these small scales. Especially with high NA.
Monopoly of AMD in the CPU market, Intel is lacking behind. On the long term this could mean less innovation.
Inflation; due to costs rising, people are less willing to invest that much money on their (new) computers and hardware. Since the article refers to "average results of all Windows PC tests across the globe every two weeks". It could be as simple as people having less purging power to all buy new chips. And most people are just "fine" with using 5, 10 or even 15 year old hardware as their daily driver.
Disclaimer: I'm working in the Lithography sector at ASML.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 11 Feb 2025 21:59
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Inflation; due to costs rising, people are less willing to invest that much money on their (new) computers and hardware. Since the article refers to "average results of all Windows PC tests across the globe every two weeks". It could be as simple as people having less purging power to all buy new chips. And most people are just "fine" with using 5, 10 or even 15 year old hardware as their daily driver.
I refuse to buy hardware until my current shit breaks from usage.... These parasites done fucked around. I am done playing these stupid games. My shit can last through 2030 easily.
I used to be a hardware whore... but no more.
Denying these parasites profit as much as I can in every market in participate in!
Always start your search with used ;)
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 12 Feb 2025 00:54
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I actually just recently upgraded to new hardware, but you're right I myself (as a programmer) was actually using not long ago 15 year old PC. Well the motherboard, case and PSU was 15 years old. I upgraded the GPU along the way, twice in total. And I added more ram. And 2 years ago I upgraded to the CPU for 10 euros/dollars using some used server Xeon processor that was compatible with my PLGA1366 socket.
So actually depending on your needs and small upgrades, you can use old hardware for years. And yes I was still playing games on this 15 year old desktop PC. I just recently upgraded like I said, because mainly I was limited to only SATA 2 and USB 2.0 connectors, so .. that. And yes my CPU became the bottleneck for my GPU as well. And I was not able to use NVMe drives of course or anything modern to that regard.
EDIT: And my fuses always tripped when I switched on the old computer. Awh well, after 15 years it was time to upgrade.
Eheran@lemmy.world
on 11 Feb 2025 19:47
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Why is the graph not logarithmic? Urgh
source_of_truth@lemmy.world
on 12 Feb 2025 02:06
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Because if it was logarithmic, it would look almost horizontal.
What? No. Instead we would be able to see steady increases of say 10 % per year as a straight line instead of this, where it appears to be ever larger increases and the first ones essentially invisible.
source_of_truth@lemmy.world
on 12 Feb 11:07
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My bad I was only looking at the thumbnail which was cropped and only showed the last few years.
xia@lemmy.sdf.org
on 12 Feb 2025 02:41
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Peak CPU?!? Hoping for some kind of graphene terahertz breakthrough.
threaded - newest
I wonder if this has anything to do with Intel’s big snafu with gen 13/14 processors. If the solution was to push a microcode update cuts the voltage to the CPUs, it’s basically a “stealth” nerf. Their spin doctors have been working overtime to frame this as erroneously high voltages that were being “fixed”.
I’d really like to see this graph divided between Intel and AMD.
i used to put orange stealth nefs up my nose as a child
Did that speed things up for you?
no, and it cut down on the airflow to my processor
How do we spin this as an upgrade?
Did it stop coolant leak though?
How can this even be possible? A drop in CPU performance on average?
It’s not really the decrease that’s the news here because that decrease is within a margin of error due to other factors. What’s the real news is that the graph has been flat for two consecutive years which is mind boggling!*
You are using an exclamation mark 1 week ago: https://kbin.melroy.org/m/games@sh.itjust.works/t/700166/I-Am-Disgusted-By-Elon-Musk-s-Gaming-Setup/comment/5890679#entry-comment-5890679
I’ve been caught, abort mission!
You are using an exclamation mark 4 hours ago: sopuli.xyz/comment/14613004
!
I don’t see any exclamation marks here, just the Metal Gear alert sound.
I love your username!
Anyhow, you're right something is not going great. Although I upgraded to a great Threadripper platform now and we do have great AMD laptop processors. It could have multiple causes:
Disclaimer: I'm working in the Lithography sector at ASML.
I refuse to buy hardware until my current shit breaks from usage.... These parasites done fucked around. I am done playing these stupid games. My shit can last through 2030 easily.
I used to be a hardware whore... but no more.
Denying these parasites profit as much as I can in every market in participate in!
Always start your search with used ;)
I actually just recently upgraded to new hardware, but you're right I myself (as a programmer) was actually using not long ago 15 year old PC. Well the motherboard, case and PSU was 15 years old. I upgraded the GPU along the way, twice in total. And I added more ram. And 2 years ago I upgraded to the CPU for 10 euros/dollars using some used server Xeon processor that was compatible with my PLGA1366 socket.
So actually depending on your needs and small upgrades, you can use old hardware for years. And yes I was still playing games on this 15 year old desktop PC. I just recently upgraded like I said, because mainly I was limited to only SATA 2 and USB 2.0 connectors, so .. that. And yes my CPU became the bottleneck for my GPU as well. And I was not able to use NVMe drives of course or anything modern to that regard.
EDIT: And my fuses always tripped when I switched on the old computer. Awh well, after 15 years it was time to upgrade.
Why is the graph not logarithmic? Urgh
Because if it was logarithmic, it would look almost horizontal.
What? No. Instead we would be able to see steady increases of say 10 % per year as a straight line instead of this, where it appears to be ever larger increases and the first ones essentially invisible.
My bad I was only looking at the thumbnail which was cropped and only showed the last few years.
Peak CPU?!? Hoping for some kind of graphene terahertz breakthrough.
It could just be noisy data, it’s comparing 365 days of 2024 with ~40 days of 2025
From their website:
It may have to do with spending more of the die on NPU and GPU features? Some of these new integrated processors have massive GPU cores on them.