JigglySackles@lemmy.world
on 07 Jul 16:20
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I’ve not seen this one. How does it manage to remove things without root?
Edit:nvm, answered my own question in the documentation. Uses shizuku which relies on adb
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jul 11:43
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Jokes on them. Google workspace accounts are forgotten bastard children and this hasn’t been and might not get activated on those accounts anytime soon.
cabbage@piefed.social
on 07 Jul 13:05
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If you own a Fairphone (3-5), Pixel (4, 5, 7 or 8) Nothing phone (1) or OnePlus (7 or 8), it's super easy to install /e/OS using this online installer. Most android apps work well out of the box, but all Google stuff has been stripped away and replaced with MicroG where necessary.
Pixel 6 is supported through community ports (6, 6 pro, 6a), but unfortunately it is not supported (yet?) by the online installer tool. So it's for people who are a bit more willing to get their hands dirty.
i use a oneplus 8t so I’m gonna save this comment. thank you very much. ive manually blocked most google services but I’d like to try a dedicated OS soon.
VeryNiiiice@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jul 16:36
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Do you lose pixel specific features?
cabbage@piefed.social
on 07 Jul 16:57
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As long as it's based on software rather than hardware I think it's safe to assume it will be lost.
You can reinstall some things (such as the default camera app) from apks you find online, and apps such as Google Maps can be downloaded from the app store (which contains all apps from the play store). But by default it strips away everything that is installed on the phone by default and replaces it with a degoogled ecosystem, and I don't think it differentiates between different devices.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Jul 02:14
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the launcher might become a very similar but stripped down version.
if you liked to have more features, try the lawnchair launcher from f-droid. its a fork with readded features. you need to have the izzydroid repo activated to find it
Im not sure when the update came out but I’ve had two forced updates in the past 3-4 months for my Pixel 6. Im assuming thats when it changed. I am very meticulous about checking settings after updates but It looks like this was only online settings for your google account, not local to the phone, which is probably how I missed it.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 07 Jul 16:44
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The ‘how’ is to disable/remove the Gemini app, no reason to have that junk on the phone.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
on 08 Jul 09:58
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Unfortunately yes, there are technical reasons I don’t fully understand. I think has to do with how it’s locked down, and that it can be relocked after graphine is installed.
Graphine takes security seriously, so leaving the boot loader unlocked is not acceptable to them.
Although, that may change with google removing pixel specific code from the android source.
Any Google app that would have Gemini baked in has long since been disabled on my phone. I’m presuming it’s bullshit isn’t going to be able to access my Fossify Messages or Dialer or Gallery or every other app I’ve replaced and disabled, especially since I’ve also disabled the Assistant and Google Apps.
I updated my phone last week ad now I cant uninstall samsung pass whatever the fuck that is. God I am so sick of tis game of cat and mouse with modern tech.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
on 07 Jul 22:07
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Went to turn it off.
Apparently I already did. Marvelous.
atticus88th@lemmy.world
on 07 Jul 22:13
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I’m okay if it has access to everything, makes it easier to find the porn I was looking for.
I don’t like to be reminded of the porn I was looking for. Google showing me ads based on my porn habits is what sent me down the privacy and security path I’ve been on since.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 08 Jul 23:05
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A whole article about how terrible this is, then towards the end they got clarification from Google and, surprise surprise, it was all an overreaction and they were fear mongering.
“This update is good for users: they can now use Gemini to complete daily tasks on their mobile devices like send messages, initiate phone calls, and set timers while Gemini Apps Activity is turned off. With Gemini Apps Activity turned off, their Gemini chats are not being reviewed or used to improve our AI models.
It’s just giving Gemini more local assistant abilities.
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I was able to send WhatsApp with Assistant since the beginning. What is the deal if Gemini does it?
“It’S aI” 🤡 -Googol
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(Canta)
(And also Shizuku)
I’ve not seen this one. How does it manage to remove things without root?
Edit:nvm, answered my own question in the documentation. Uses shizuku which relies on adb
Jokes on them. Google workspace accounts are forgotten bastard children and this hasn’t been and might not get activated on those accounts anytime soon.
Admin Console -> Generative AI -> Gemini app -> Service status -> OFF for everyone
Direct Link to settings: myactivity.google.com/product/gemini
Their dumb redirect link didn’t work for me, probably because of adblock.
“Not available for my account type”
Since I use workspace, I have to go to Admin Console -> Generative AI -> Gemini app -> Service status -> OFF for everyone
removes gemini with adb
If you own a Fairphone (3-5), Pixel (4, 5, 7 or 8) Nothing phone (1) or OnePlus (7 or 8), it's super easy to install /e/OS using this online installer. Most android apps work well out of the box, but all Google stuff has been stripped away and replaced with MicroG where necessary.
I'm never returning to Google anything.
Not Pixel 6?
Pixel 6 is supported through community ports (6, 6 pro, 6a), but unfortunately it is not supported (yet?) by the online installer tool. So it's for people who are a bit more willing to get their hands dirty.
i use a oneplus 8t so I’m gonna save this comment. thank you very much. ive manually blocked most google services but I’d like to try a dedicated OS soon.
Do you lose pixel specific features?
As long as it's based on software rather than hardware I think it's safe to assume it will be lost.
You can reinstall some things (such as the default camera app) from apks you find online, and apps such as Google Maps can be downloaded from the app store (which contains all apps from the play store). But by default it strips away everything that is installed on the phone by default and replaces it with a degoogled ecosystem, and I don't think it differentiates between different devices.
the launcher might become a very similar but stripped down version.
if you liked to have more features, try the lawnchair launcher from f-droid. its a fork with readded features. you need to have the izzydroid repo activated to find it
apt.izzysoft.de/packages/app.lawnchair
My previous Motorola also has an e/OS/ spin. But sadly my current one does not.
Funny how I turned off any data sharing for google years ago but the inclusion of gemini somehow voids my previous decision.
Did you download this, or was it an automatic update?
Some people have said it was an automatic update, and it then changed their settings
Im not sure when the update came out but I’ve had two forced updates in the past 3-4 months for my Pixel 6. Im assuming thats when it changed. I am very meticulous about checking settings after updates but It looks like this was only online settings for your google account, not local to the phone, which is probably how I missed it.
The ‘how’ is to disable/remove the Gemini app, no reason to have that junk on the phone.
Gemini never gets installed automatically on GrapheneOS. Yet another reason to switch if you can
Isn’t that a pixel only OS?
Unfortunately yes, there are technical reasons I don’t fully understand. I think has to do with how it’s locked down, and that it can be relocked after graphine is installed.
Graphine takes security seriously, so leaving the boot loader unlocked is not acceptable to them.
Although, that may change with google removing pixel specific code from the android source.
Its because of the hardware. Pixel phones have a chip dedicated exclusively to security, therefore why GrapheneOS is buildt arround those phones
Yes, because pixels are currently the only android phones with hardware security that third party operating systems can take full advantage of.
Are they still being made? I’d like to give it a try but Googles putting the pedal on enshitiffication
Yep!
Well I don’t have a pixel my dude.
Then either get one or don’t switch?
Any Google app that would have Gemini baked in has long since been disabled on my phone. I’m presuming it’s bullshit isn’t going to be able to access my Fossify Messages or Dialer or Gallery or every other app I’ve replaced and disabled, especially since I’ve also disabled the Assistant and Google Apps.
(If I’m wrong please correct me.)
It’s a system app? I was able to uninstall it directly on my Pixel 8. Unless it’s only a system app above that.
I updated my phone last week ad now I cant uninstall samsung pass whatever the fuck that is. God I am so sick of tis game of cat and mouse with modern tech.
Went to turn it off.
Apparently I already did. Marvelous.
I’m okay if it has access to everything, makes it easier to find the porn I was looking for.
I don’t like to be reminded of the porn I was looking for. Google showing me ads based on my porn habits is what sent me down the privacy and security path I’ve been on since.
A whole article about how terrible this is, then towards the end they got clarification from Google and, surprise surprise, it was all an overreaction and they were fear mongering.
It’s just giving Gemini more local assistant abilities.