Chinese sextortion scammers are flooding Twitter (restofworld.org)
from stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to technology@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 10:54
https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/404371

Scammers are targeting Chinese-language users, harassing political dissidents and influential figures.

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falkerie71@sh.itjust.works on 29 Aug 2023 11:23 next collapse

“The new verification system will prevent bot spam!” - Some rich guy who has no idea how the internet works

Seriously, it’s been such a pain reading Chinese content on Twitter/X/whatever. If you post any stuff that says something critical about China, no matter if it’s news, opinions, or just shit posts, and have some amount of Chinese speaking followers, you are now guaranteed to have sex-bots spam commenting your every post. And you can’t do anything about it, since they have multiple accounts, and some just leave the comment and block you so you can’t remove it.

Edit: grammar

TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 11:30 next collapse

some just leave the comment and block you so you can’t remove it.

Wait, is someone comments on a post, then blocks the OP that comment can’t be deleted?

falkerie71@sh.itjust.works on 29 Aug 2023 11:45 collapse

I haven’t dealt with them personally before, but I did ask a poster before if they could hide the spam comments, and they said no since they couldn’t see it.

TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 11:56 collapse

Ohhh, OK. So they can’t see the comment to even hide it. That is crazy.

stopthatgirl7@kbin.social on 29 Aug 2023 11:32 next collapse

It’s going to be an even bigger mess if Elon goes through with getting rid of block and only leaving people with a mute. There won’t be any way to stop these porn bots.

Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 29 Aug 2023 11:40 collapse

There won’t be any way to stop these porn bots.

No, there is a way...

AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee on 29 Aug 2023 12:57 collapse

It’s called nuking the service all together.

HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl on 29 Aug 2023 20:53 collapse

There are a ton on twitter generally, more than 80 percent of my followers on a small account are obvious fake profiles/porn bots. But they don’t reply often, they mostly like.

qooqie@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 11:26 next collapse

Honestly, the only real solution is leaving Twitter. With the plan to remove the block feature this will only get worse and worse. I really don’t see this sort of thing getting better anytime soon or later.

Some options: Mastodon is great, push through that initial anxiety about servers and just hop on. Not threads! Unless you’re okay with FaceBook taking, very literally, all your data. Bluesky I’ve heard is okay, but it’s another billionaire project that has an algorithm to do whatever they want.

Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 12:32 next collapse

I really think Elon just wants to destroy twitter to finally put an end to that hellhole

TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 13:22 next collapse

If he was competent at that, he wouldn’t be sinking it alongside his own reputation, he’d get his puppet CEO to undermine it and then call it inevitable.

I think he wants this X app to be a thing, he just has no idea what he’s doing

falkerie71@sh.itjust.works on 29 Aug 2023 17:13 collapse

I think I’ve heard this from a podcast but don’t remember which, but one conspiracy is that Musk is deliberately running the company to the ground, but is masking it with “optimistic” business decisions to prove he was trying to keep the company afloat, so as to avoid lawsuits and compensations when it goes under? I’m not that well versed in law so I can’t verify it’s legitimacy though, so take it with a grain of salt.

TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 17:55 next collapse

He is already being sued for a variety of issues related to how he is handling Twitter. The conspiracy has to go all the way around into suggesting that he intentionally wants everyone to think he is a fool, at expense of his other businesses, to make decisions even average people believe to be clueless and destructive, when he could arrange for that to happen much more subtly.

Seems simpler to me to just believe he is a fool. This whole conspiracy seems to come from sheer disbelief that someone so wealthy could be so stupid. But it seems to me it proves that wealth and competence or intelligence aren’t correlated after all.

HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl on 29 Aug 2023 20:51 next collapse

He is connected to Thiel who is connected to US intel. Perhaps decisions were made that Twitter is too influencial and influenced by users during elections? Just a theory.

TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 21:32 collapse

If anyone might be deliberately trying to kill Twitter, maybe it’s whoever financed it. Wouldn’t they realize that Elon offered for Twitter far more than it was worth and that repaying it is very unlikely?

stopthatgirl7@kbin.social on 30 Aug 2023 03:05 collapse

Exactly. It’s Hanlon’s Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Stupidity alone more than adequately explains what Elon is doing to Twitter.

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 03 Sep 2023 17:35 collapse

I actually wonder if the point is to launder money through it? You buy it at a certain valuation. You tank it while promising investors that you have big ideas that will have them making money hand over fist in no time. You instead, make significant investment elsewhere using an unknown shell company or something to invest in its competitors, forcing users off the original platform and onto something else that makes you money. You insure it in some way so that you can get a payout when it finally whistles it’s last death rattle, the investors get a payout, you get a payout, the platform dies, and you move on to something else.

I have no idea how it all works but haven’t most of us seen The Producers? Same basic premise. Bet against yourself. Take the winnings while leaving the liability elsewhere.

falkerie71@sh.itjust.works on 03 Sep 2023 17:42 collapse

You’re better than I am at it already lol.
The conspiracy is on! 🍿

Haven’t seen The Producers before. Do you recommend it?

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 03 Sep 2023 19:31 collapse

I do recommend it. It’s great fun and I found it very enjoyable.

Marsupial@quokk.au on 30 Aug 2023 09:10 collapse

Yeah, nah.

More likely situation is the ma child is simply bad at running a business. This is backed up by his history.

Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2023 09:35 collapse

Wasn’t there this thing of grandsons ruining their grandparent’s business?

But seriously, Elon is doing it too wrong for it to be accidental

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 29 Aug 2023 18:59 collapse

How do you find people you want to follow on other instances with mastodon? I’ve tried searching all kinds of ways with username and instance, but it doesn’t find the people I’m looking for (specific accounts)

Jivebunny@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 20:09 next collapse

theverge.com/…/mastodon-instance-follow-friend

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 30 Aug 2023 04:33 collapse

Yeah Ive already done this, they don’t appear when searching…is this method only usable for the website version?

Jivebunny@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2023 10:34 next collapse

Can’t say that I know for sure, but could be that the app doesn’t support this (yet)?

clgoh@lemmy.ca on 30 Aug 2023 11:22 collapse

I came find you like this from the Mastodon app.

<img alt="I’m finding you like this." src="https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/fc310a45-25f3-4210-99ab-db6a96b8fdb6.png">

Yes, we can follow Lemmy users from Mastodon.

Maybe the accounts you’re looking for are in defederated instances?

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 30 Aug 2023 11:59 collapse

No they should be on large federated instances too…but that is not my mastodon account, I have an account in a different instance for mastodon.

Fedizen@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2023 09:25 collapse

trending works great now, hashtags always worked, and many apps support features like following instances. The search feature is upcoming so maybe wait for that to drop

specfreq@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 12:46 next collapse

I don’t get it. Why do people even like Twitter, old or new?

stopthatgirl7@kbin.social on 29 Aug 2023 12:52 next collapse

Twitter used to be an absolutely great way to keep up with breaking news, because so many reporters were there. I joined twitter during the Arab Spring, because so much that was happening was being talked about on Twitter. Same with a lot of social movements - twitter was a place where you could make something local go global. If anything was happening in the world, twitter was the place to follow it.

But now? Now, it’s a desert of information. It’s depressing to watch a place that was so vibrant become the home of Musk shills and weird right wingers. I loved Twitter, before Elon took over. Now, it’s fading, and fast.

TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 13:24 next collapse

It was good place to keep up with artists and game developers. They share each other’s work in a way that is great to discover more artists and games that you didn’t know about.

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 29 Aug 2023 13:55 next collapse

Grumpy gamer moved to mastadon so I gave it a crack. It’s great. Lots of game devs there.

stopthatgirl7@kbin.social on 29 Aug 2023 13:57 collapse

Oh? Who’s on Mastodon? I could always use more people to follow!

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 17:49 next collapse

Its far smaller but plenty of niche communities have moved there.

makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml on 29 Aug 2023 19:55 collapse

Ron Gilbert. The creator of Monkey Island. mastodon.gamedev.place/@grumpygamer

Through him, you’ll soon find so many developers.

sheogorath@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 17:50 collapse

Yep, before deleting my Twitter account after the muskrat invasion I used Twitter to keep up with the developers in my niche. As they usually have insights or I can get a sense on how the tech is going to progress by reading their updates.

HubertManne@kbin.social on 29 Aug 2023 13:48 next collapse

I could say this about most social media. Im on facebook just as a last ditch way for friends and family to reach me, linkedin for keeping contact with workmates, never saw a usecase for twitter but I see folks ones below.

eleanor@social.hamington.net on 29 Aug 2023 19:10 collapse

I don’t think anyone liked it. More like tolerated it because of a combination of network effects and it being less shitty than Facebook.

At least, that’s why I was on Twitter. People I wanted to follow were there.

DosCommas@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 17:29 next collapse

They are all over LinkedIn with really obvious fake profiles. LinkedIn is doing nothing to stop it.

c0c0c0@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2023 19:39 collapse

LinkedIn is feeling like abandonware.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works on 29 Aug 2023 22:23 collapse

It may as well shut their doors in my opinion. No amount of changes or marketing is going to turn it into what they wanted it to be at this point. It’s at the point where if someone starts casually talking about LinkedIn they get sideways glances as to why they would even be using it, unless they work in HR.

Fhek@lemm.ee on 29 Aug 2023 19:22 collapse

Stop using shitter.

Agent641@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2023 08:40 collapse

You sound like my boss