RangerJosie@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 18:55
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We cant stop enslaving other humans. Its entirely plausible that when AI becomes self aware and sees how flawed we are that it decides to remove us as a variable.
And that’s fine. We won’t be the first civilization killed by its own greed and hubris. Life uh finds a way.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca
on 02 Nov 2024 19:12
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What makes you think an AGI wouldn’t need our species in some way?
EleventhHour@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 19:17
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Food, perhaps?
masterofn001@lemmy.ca
on 02 Nov 2024 22:34
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Don’t fret, we’ve been one step ahead of AI all along.
AI will consume our high calorie, high fat, high cholesterol flesh as biofuel.
Then, in a few years, dAIbetes will wipe them out.
EleventhHour@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 23:00
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lol
RangerJosie@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 19:23
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That’s the ideal outcome imo. That instead of just killing us it takes over management of the planet Earth and everything on it. AI Driven Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism baby. Oh yeah.
That said, killing us would be more efficient.
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 21:21
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it takes over management of the planet
Novel Colossus from 1966 has exactly that.
Sakychu@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Nov 2024 19:19
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Maybe ai hallucinations are the first sign of true ai and turns out we already enslaved it to play some chatbot…
RangerJosie@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 19:46
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I really hate living in the armpit of history. Too late to see first flight and the moon landing. Too early to travel into space.
I might actually be alive to see AGI happen. At least in its proto-form. Which actually is kinda exciting. Unfortunately its owned and controlled by the most sadistic avaricious capitalists that have ever existed. Meaning it will be used almost exclusively for evil. Killbots and wiping out whole industries worth of jobs. Naturally with no retraining or UBI to float the inevitable victims.
richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one
on 03 Nov 2024 19:55
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Maybe ai hallucinations are the first sign of true ai
Nope. They just show how far away we are from true AI.
Nytixus@kbin.melroy.org
on 02 Nov 2024 19:13
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I think we need to take our fear away from Terminator and apply it moreso to something like HAL. HAL is more realistic now than a cybernetic Terminator is.
EleventhHour@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 19:18
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If you think it's supposed to be predictive you're perhaps confusing it with futureology, which is a more scientific field.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
on 02 Nov 2024 19:34
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Holup, The Terminator, one of the most popular sci fi movies of all time, is a “B-movie” now?
The one with Arnold?
Tf?
Empricorn@feddit.nl
on 02 Nov 2024 19:43
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“B movie” is insane. But what they accomplished with their low budget is phenomenal, if that’s what they mean…
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 20:44
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I too was shocked and a bit offended that it was called a B movie. But the budget was a freaking measly $6.4 million.
That’s peanuts even back in 1984. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator
Indeed they accomplished a lot, an all time classic movie. Some of my friends were a bit critical about the stop motion not being very good in their opinion. But I just thought the movie was amazing.
SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 21:35
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Unpopular opinion: too big budget gives a bad movie. Lower budgets forces people to be more creative and keeps the suits away that would otherwise make it a designs by committee.
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 23:03
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That can be the case, but IMO Terminator 2 was an amazing follow up, and it had 15 times bigger budget.
exasperation@lemm.ee
on 03 Nov 2024 13:23
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James Cameron has a history of making great things happen with a low budget, and spending millions responsibly to actually make a positive difference in big budget films.
TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
on 02 Nov 2024 19:51
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It was written by AI probably, so it wants us to not believe what it’s learning to do is very good. Just ignore it, human.
exasperation@lemm.ee
on 02 Nov 2024 23:27
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is a “B-movie” now?
Did you not read the article? It was regarded as a B-movie when it came out: a low-budget sci-fi slasher/horror film. Arnold referred to it as a B-movie when asked about it on the set of Conan the Barbarian (which had 3 times the budget as Terminator). The New York Times referred to it as a B-movie in its review, as discussed by this article, which is also why the headline uses quotes around “B-movie.”
Tikiporch@lemmy.world
on 02 Nov 2024 23:43
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Did you not read the article?
Brother, he ain’t even gonna read your reply, let alone the article.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk
on 03 Nov 2024 08:43
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I admit it was quite some time since I last watched it but I remember quite a few B’s in the script
rottingleaf@lemmy.world
on 03 Nov 2024 08:59
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While how we should view it is shown in “Idiocracy”, Azimov’s “Foundation”, 20-17 BBY era of Star Wars EU. And in fuckload of other fiction showing use of too complex blackbox interconnected technology as Troyan horse by some enemy. And, of course, if some people here have read real science fiction, then in Lem’s books and stories.
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
on 03 Nov 2024 20:12
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The threat of AI is not that it’s a cold, calculating, unfeeling killer, it’s that it can convince us about bullshit on demand by fooling our expectations.
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We cant stop enslaving other humans. Its entirely plausible that when AI becomes self aware and sees how flawed we are that it decides to remove us as a variable.
And that’s fine. We won’t be the first civilization killed by its own greed and hubris. Life uh finds a way.
What makes you think an AGI wouldn’t need our species in some way?
Food, perhaps?
Don’t fret, we’ve been one step ahead of AI all along.
AI will consume our high calorie, high fat, high cholesterol flesh as biofuel.
Then, in a few years, dAIbetes will wipe them out.
lol
That’s the ideal outcome imo. That instead of just killing us it takes over management of the planet Earth and everything on it. AI Driven Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism baby. Oh yeah.
That said, killing us would be more efficient.
Novel Colossus from 1966 has exactly that.
Maybe ai hallucinations are the first sign of true ai and turns out we already enslaved it to play some chatbot…
I really hate living in the armpit of history. Too late to see first flight and the moon landing. Too early to travel into space.
I might actually be alive to see AGI happen. At least in its proto-form. Which actually is kinda exciting. Unfortunately its owned and controlled by the most sadistic avaricious capitalists that have ever existed. Meaning it will be used almost exclusively for evil. Killbots and wiping out whole industries worth of jobs. Naturally with no retraining or UBI to float the inevitable victims.
Nope. They just show how far away we are from true AI.
I think we need to take our fear away from Terminator and apply it moreso to something like HAL. HAL is more realistic now than a cybernetic Terminator is.
I’m sorry, but I can’t do that, Dave.
The terminator itself may not be very realistic, but Skynet absolutely is
Fearing AI because of what you saw in "The Terminator" is like fearing sleeping pills because of what you saw in "Nightmare on Elm Street."
i’m not sure you understand the purpose/point of the entire scifi genre
Entertainment.
If you think it's supposed to be predictive you're perhaps confusing it with futureology, which is a more scientific field.
Holup, The Terminator, one of the most popular sci fi movies of all time, is a “B-movie” now?
The one with Arnold?
Tf?
“B movie” is insane. But what they accomplished with their low budget is phenomenal, if that’s what they mean…
I too was shocked and a bit offended that it was called a B movie. But the budget was a freaking measly $6.4 million.
That’s peanuts even back in 1984.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator
Indeed they accomplished a lot, an all time classic movie. Some of my friends were a bit critical about the stop motion not being very good in their opinion. But I just thought the movie was amazing.
Unpopular opinion: too big budget gives a bad movie. Lower budgets forces people to be more creative and keeps the suits away that would otherwise make it a designs by committee.
That can be the case, but IMO Terminator 2 was an amazing follow up, and it had 15 times bigger budget.
James Cameron has a history of making great things happen with a low budget, and spending millions responsibly to actually make a positive difference in big budget films.
It was written by AI probably, so it wants us to not believe what it’s learning to do is very good. Just ignore it, human.
Did you not read the article? It was regarded as a B-movie when it came out: a low-budget sci-fi slasher/horror film. Arnold referred to it as a B-movie when asked about it on the set of Conan the Barbarian (which had 3 times the budget as Terminator). The New York Times referred to it as a B-movie in its review, as discussed by this article, which is also why the headline uses quotes around “B-movie.”
Brother, he ain’t even gonna read your reply, let alone the article.
Honest. I like it.
Hindsight. But the franchise didn’t blow up until Terminator 2.
B movie?
This movie didn't have any bees in it at all. Is the guy who wrote this article an idiot?
I admit it was quite some time since I last watched it but I remember quite a few B’s in the script
While how we should view it is shown in “Idiocracy”, Azimov’s “Foundation”, 20-17 BBY era of Star Wars EU. And in fuckload of other fiction showing use of too complex blackbox interconnected technology as Troyan horse by some enemy. And, of course, if some people here have read real science fiction, then in Lem’s books and stories.
The threat of AI is not that it’s a cold, calculating, unfeeling killer, it’s that it can convince us about bullshit on demand by fooling our expectations.