True, but apparently the attempt to resurrect its use uses it for both the voiced and unvoiced dental fricatives where current English usage uses ‘th’ rather than resurrecting both characters.
then what’s the point… it complicates things further by specifically using a character that has a single sound to replace two different sounds instead of using th which everyone knows has two different sounds.
would be better to just come up with a good th ligature.
11111one11111@lemmy.world
on 05 Aug 18:18
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Girls gone wild!?!? What are they making 12 year olds verify their age to jack it to infomercials at 3am?
0liviuhhhhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Aug 20:31
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Its kinda funny how this bill is being introduced under the premise of “protecting children” but Girls Gone Wild is still allowed to operate after getting caught multiple times distributing child pornography
And by funny obviously I mean horrifying
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Aug 20:41
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In a state that recently tried removing a bunch of child labor laws.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
on 05 Aug 23:35
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Wait that’s a good point.
If a child works as a porn actor/ess in Florida would they have had protections from the state?
Ideally, a full dark net would be great. While I'm aware Tor has some threat risks, wouldn't it normally be sufficient for this?
Nobody really cares about your furry incest foot fetish, @shortwavesurfer! We know, and have accepted you anyway 🩵
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
on 05 Aug 20:29
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I do as much as I can over tor and hidden services make it even better since the service doesn’t know where you’re coming from and you don’t know where the service is.
I download podcasts over tor (antennapod), update apps over tor (fdroid), connect to my monero node over tor (various), chat over tor (Signal and SimpleX), and can connect to home assistant over tor. If I could get away with it, I would just direct all of my system traffic over tor all the time. Hell, the only reason I don’t is because I need to log into my bank sometimes.
Services can't tell where you're coming from over Tor, right? Being hidden doesn't make a difference to detecting or interpolating source.
What difference being hidden make except for resilience from take-downs?
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
on 05 Aug 20:49
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Correct, services cannot tell where you are coming from when you are using Tor. However, the service itself has no such protection.
With the crackdown that is occurring on the internet, I think everything is going to have to go into hidden services to remain censorship resistant.
Edit: I think it best to prepare for a world where the only use for the ClearNet is to download Tor, similar to how the only use for Microsoft Edge on Windows is to download Firefox.
Eventually, there may come a day where the clear net is just not used at all.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 06 Aug 06:12
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thats where alot of euro-porn is based in
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
on 06 Aug 11:11
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yeah that czechs out
sorry i'll see myself out
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world
on 05 Aug 18:52
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He’ll be running for higher office very soon. He’s been in at least one abhorrent headline a week for months. Hope they find the CSAM on his laptop soon so I can stop hearing about this incompetent asshole
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz
on 05 Aug 19:15
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LoL STUPID LIBTARD! Republicans LOVE CSAM! Just look at how they Treat Jeffrey Epstein and his BEST FRIEND Donald J Trump!
Steve@startrek.website
on 05 Aug 21:52
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It was planted by evil sick democrats
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 06 Aug 06:13
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desantis had his chance with the presidency, he has to be looking for US senate.
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 17:00
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I mean sure but this article isn’t about Desantis
a_person@piefed.social
on 05 Aug 18:56
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This is going to be the dreamworks and pirate bay situation all over again.
goatinspace@feddit.org
on 05 Aug 19:09
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Probably a dumb question, but if the website servers aren’t physically located in Florida, why must the websites follow Florida law?
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Aug 19:45
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State prosecution argues if there’s access in Florida, the site must follow their laws. These sites need to georestrict access and should have done it the day law went into effect.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
on 05 Aug 19:55
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This is like me saying I have a bucket of books that are illegal in your state but legal in mine. You come to my state and take the books back to yours. Who broke the law?
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Aug 20:00
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Good luck trying to find any rational in these legislations, there is none. I can still search for “sexy naked sex” and get thousands of explict image results from google in FL. The laws are not protecting kids, but they are embarrassing legal aged adults and putting sites and creators that previously tried to cooperate out of business.
Edit - hell, the fact reddit and X are somehow exempt should say everything. Sites that kids would visit for totally non-explicit purposes and end up exposed to top trending titties.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 06 Aug 06:16
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SPEZ loves musk, so that makes sense.
tyler@programming.dev
on 05 Aug 20:28
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Well that’s a really bad example you gave because gun laws explicitly cover that exact case federally. This is more like book banning. Books are banned in your state, not mine, you come and buy them here and take them back there.
Or fireworks. Many states have laws against selling fireworks to state residents, but all you need to do is cross a border or have an out of state license and you can buy them just fine.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
on 05 Aug 21:26
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Easier to target the few dozen major sources than the millions of users for now. But I agree wholeheartedly with the premise. They’re not setting up a shop in Florida. They’re in entirely different places around the world and Floridians are virtually knocking on their door and taking their digital packages with them back to Florida. Why would the onus be on the server to police the laws local to each client?
couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip
on 05 Aug 23:23
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More like you see a request coming in from FL and you send them there
Don’t request shit you aren’t allowed to have. My state doesn’t ban me from sending it to you, yours bans you from having it. Tf do I care about your state laws. I don’t live there.
I’d argue it’s on the state to figure that out (for better or worse). My site is on a globally connected network, if you don’t want your citizens doing something, you figure it out. It’s not my job.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Aug 00:22
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Well true, but look at the EU.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 06 Aug 06:15
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the companies/sites itself can block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose. yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there.
block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose
How? I do not think we know of a reliable way, DNS blocking get bypassed by alternative DNS ( and ISP probably do not have per state DNSes) , IP blocking get bypassed via VPN, etc. They can say they did put in place something but it is like puttimg a fence without walls around, it is just symbolic.
They conduct business in Florida. Their customers aren’t porn watchers, but people who buy ad space. They could stop selling ads in Florida, but they won’t.
devolution@lemmy.world
on 05 Aug 19:32
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To beat your meat, you must provide a drivers license.
No card. No cum.
🤣
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Aug 00:24
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How do you know which actors are drugged up, which are trafficked, which may secretly be underage, who was coerced or manipulated, which are willing, which are faking, which are there because otherwise they’d be homeless, which are being abused off camera, which are being raped?
There’s no way to know any of this.
Do you think what you are doing watching it is good and good for you?
Now ask the similar questions, but about movies. I liked Tarantino's movies the most, but then I heard that he harassed some woman. Now I won't watch them anymore, ofc, but I won't give up on the whole industry.
This isn’t social media as most understand it. My wife sometimes gets bent as to what she sees me writing, doesn’t understand that you and I neither know one another nor care to.
I get where you’re coming from, upvote for contributing an opinion. But I think you’re overestimating the impact of this legislation. This is not ever going to stop internet porn consumption, that boat sailed 30-years ago.
Also, social media is fucking us (heh) worse than porn ever did, not even comparable.
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
on 05 Aug 21:18
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Uhhh what kind of freaky shit are you watching for that to be the image you have of porn?
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
on 05 Aug 23:33
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Bang on, damn, you got me so good.
Is this really how you carry your arguments? Demeaning and projecting over your opponent? I guess you’re safe from all that insane porn now since you’re failing the ID check for being underage.
Cool man, fyi generally you want to avoid projecting assumptions on people and listen instead to their actual point. You’re not arguing with caricatures, you’re arguing with other people who might know as much or more than you do, so the preachy tone isn’t doing you any favours in trying to convince people.
A big argument against this type of blocking is giving up private information to private entities to access content that can be tracked back to them is a huge risk for privacy, it doesn’t matter if it’s porn or something else, you can see it in the UK too where speech about Palestine is being blocked by the same ruling that is “protecting children”. Someone else here also raised a good point, why is it on these websites to implement age verification and not on the state, when many of those websites aren’t hosted in Florida?
But no you’re not interested in a good debate, you just see a political choice that aligns with your views and anyone who has issues with the implementation, consequences, or any other issue (including a porn ban in general) is treated like the worst of the worst. “Surely this is a morally good thing, so all who oppose must be morally abhorrent”, except this is exactly why the lawmakers prey on when they implement surveillance type shit all in the name of “protecting the children”, they make it so arguing against it is seen as protecting abusers when the same resolution could be reached in a way that doesn’t infringe on people’s privacy.
It’s entertainment and it’s been the backbone of technology evolution like it or not, read more here: zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/617469885 and I think people who enjoy to be part of that content (where legal and not abusive) deserve a platform to share it with like minded people.
I do agree that the abusive content should not be allowed on platforms, but that’s already illegal in most places. Further policing is just infringing on people’s rights of doing what they want with their bodies. “My body my choice” isn’t just about pregnancy it’s about anything a consensual adult should be able to do without being judged for it.
Fundamentally though it doesn’t matter what the excuse is, prohibition never works (see war on drugs and the actual prohibition period in the US) and it leads to more people finding this type of content on websites that are not under the eye of the law, which are more likely to host abusive and illegal content. Sex and masturbation are normal for people, and have been part of culture and art for hundreds if not thousands of years. There are ways to enjoy it ethically (as we have for decades before OF) and we should pursue that, but consider for a moment that the problem is not sex and pornography itself (because we’ve had erotica in anything from medieval paintings to fine art photography), but the economical factors that push platforms to highlight it more and more and people to get into it for a quick buck because it sells and makes them money. Social media is nowadays full of onlyfans creators advertising their profiles, and who can fully blame them when the economy is in shambles? But really that has a way bigger impact on male loneliness than porn itself, they just bombard you with ads and ads to see explicit content even when you don’t want to, and that’s rewiring people’s brains.
Because, and I’ll entertain your puritan view for a second, where does it stop if we block porn outright? Is nude photography illegal now? showing a nipple? Uncovered belly or feet? How far will we have to go for the brain addled vices of a few people? And this is all just bandaids, because as I said before, the issue is not porn, it’s those taking advantage of it to sell as much of it as possible even at the detriment of people’s mental health. There is space for nuance.
I have zero respect for coomer humour LOL now go log on to XXXcaveman and abuse yourself then called it a contribution to evolution and technology lmao 🤣
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Aug 00:25
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Sir, they do offer therapy for people with issues like yours.
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Aug 03:14
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I don’t think you’re understanding the issue here. It’s not a “porn is bad” issue. It’s a foreign government dictating how a service that is not hosted in their country is run issue.
If you think Florida has any right to dictate how a French company is run then idk what to tell you. Florida has no jurisdiction in France.
axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 06 Aug 05:00
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Totally missing the point like an idiot.
But yes let’s let the USA set the rules for content in other countries by means of government regulation and pressuring visa to become the morality and wrong think police. What could go wrong???
Well, they are in fact breaking the law. Doesn’t matter what we think about that law, they’re in clear violation. Cannot imagine why they didn’t geofence like PornHub did. Hell, I did blocked entire countries at my last job with a simple pfSense router. This ain’t rocket science. Guess their greed got 'em?
Why should any website operator be held responsible for complying with every stupid law in every podunk shithole jurisdiction everywhere in the world? By this logic, every site should comply with whatever unhinged BS North Korea and Saudi Arabia insist upon, too – is that what you want?
If Florida doesn’t like these websites that are not hosted in Florida, that’s Florida’s problem, not the website operators’, and Florida can do its own damn geofencing itself.
I agree with every single thing you stated. But the article is about these sites breaking Florida law, and they are. Never said anything about this was sane, but again, if I operated a porn site, I’d fence Florida off as a CYA measure.
But the article is about these sites breaking Florida law, and they are.
No, that’s not true. You cannot break a law when the government in question has no jurisdiction over you. The sites are not breaking Florida law because they are not subject to Florida law in the first place.
master_of_unlocking@lemmy.world
on 06 Aug 01:17
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Not every site, but if they’re making money from people in Florida they would be subject to Florida law:
Sites outside the country are probably fine but if they’re in the USA not using a geolock is foolish.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Aug 23:11
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People are downvoting you because you’re telling them that the law isn’t fair, sucks my friend.
I do wonder if Xvideos or some of these other companies that are primarily international have any infrastructure in the US/Florida that could be affected by a ruling of some sort. I feel like there might be something there depending on how they’re taking payment for services like Xvideos Red.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
on 06 Aug 01:38
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People are being downvoted because no one is beholden to the laws of a state/province/jurisdiction/etc that they have no relation with. Foreign authorities do not get to force their will onto foreign entities.
callouscomic@lemmy.zip
on 05 Aug 21:31
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Meanwhile Nascar literally has races sponsored by BlueChew and every other fucking ad during a race is for bent dick disease, all on easily accessed channels.
My shithole(ruzzia) is actively trying to shut them down. Now it's a hefty fine for advertising VPN, and they recently even added law that punishes "search of illegal content". Whatever the hell they mean by that.
We need to make the very politicians, activists, etc., who made these kinds of laws possible to fear for their lives.
hobovision@mander.xyz
on 06 Aug 02:03
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Unrelated to the article itself, but god fucking damn is that website absolutely absurd. It looks like a shitty campaign website. The sad sad man changed the seal of the office and put an eagle (because books are lame I guess) and “free state of florida” at the bottom like that’s a real thing. Can’t believe this works on people.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca
on 06 Aug 02:50
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Prelude to a closed (north korea/russia style) internet?
There is also a vast amount of space between a normal human body and the bodies that most Americans now have. That has nothing to do with the unrealistic beauty standards in media (which is also a thing)
Obesity is bad, and it annoys me when people start defending it as being beautiful. It’s not, it will kill you in loads of unpleasant ways.
Get healthy, exercise, eat less, eat less sugars
dropped_packet@lemmy.zip
on 06 Aug 20:02
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Nobody in the thread above mentioned obesity. Nobody is saying you have to be attracted to obese people. Or disputing that it’s unhealthy.
It remains true that there is a lot of space between this extreme and the extreme portrayed in media. Body weight is not the only standard, it’s one of many.
… Nobody mentioned obesity but we’re talking about body weight… I mean, it’s on topic, y’know.
And while body weight is not the only standard, it is a good indication of health. If you’re twice overweight, you will die sooner and likely in a not so comfortable way. Handhaving that away with “well, it’s one thing but there are others too” feels a bit disingenuous.
Yeah, there are loads of ways to die but this one is very preventable
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 05:36
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I’ve read that American food is particularly bad, and you are right, but the factor contributing most is the metabolism with which you are born, other things important are levels of stress, ability to sleep well.
Exercise is important, yes. Eating right is as well. Just keep in mind that some things are outside your control, and if you think your health is your own achievement, that might not be entirely correct.
The factor that matters most isn’t your metabolism. If that were true we’d have sever overweight issues since thousands of years but we haven’t. The overweight pandemic is caused by too much food, period.
Want to lose weight? Whatever your metabolism is, eat less, eat healthier. It’s that simple.
Yeah, exercise a lot, that’s healthy and needed. It won’t make you think though unless you really exercise a lot (3+ hours a day, every day)
Easiest way is to just eat less. Eat smaller portions, stop eating processed foods, cut your sugar intake.
There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you’re interested
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
on 13 Aug 14:19
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There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you’re interested
Interested.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 05:28
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I’ve met people far more beautiful than most you can see in mainstream media, let alone adult materials.
(And in case one bitch with ASPD is stalking me, no, I don’t mean her ; that is, this is true for her too.)
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 05:31
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Obesity is a result of many things. It’s mostly hereditary whatever you are born with, so the comment you are answering is right.
Just like other cases of “unhealthy”. Just like with them, though, it’s possible to find one’s optimum in food and sports and sleep to feel better, and a person who feels better is usually more attractive.
But looking like models you can find in the interwebs is just not possible if you are not already like them.
Obesity is not hereditary. It is calories in, calories out. You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.
People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 14:52
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Obesity is not hereditary.
It usually is.
It is calories in, calories out.
Passing through your individual system. Mine, for example, very badly processes sugars. One teaspoon of sugar in tea means I stink like cat piss in half an hour after drinking that tea.
You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.
There are “fat” models, and also it’s usually not your choice as I have previously said.
In case someone thinks I have a skin in the game - I’m as thin as a skeleton. But I have family members overweight and you really don’t know what you’re talking about, they are among the most healthy eating people I know and still their weight requires precision and discipline in their diet, both more than you likely ever achieved in life, sorry if rude.
People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.
Yeah, it’s better to be healthy and rich than sick and poor, as they say to such statements where I live.
Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?
Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.
They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.
Why are you taking personal attacks at me? Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much. If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 15:12
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Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?
I can’t show it to you, it’s a hard subject requiring a lot of data. But everybody having obese relatives know that they generally eat the same things and still get obese!
Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Yep, exercise is very good, with different effects on different people still.
Why are you taking personal attacks at me?
Because:
Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much.
It’s a different magnitude self control issue for different people. It’s a self control issue for me - if I eat only burgers for a month, I might start getting obese (more likely just die), I just have to avoid that. It’s a self control issue for my sister - if with her steamed vegetable diet she exercises a bit less, she gains weight. These are not comparable.
If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.
You are not saying anything valuable, that’s just how this works. Health is complex.
Health is not complex. Eat right. Work out. Everything else falls into place.
Stop making excuses for bad habits that harm people. If you truly cared about your friends and family, you will tell them when they are unhealthy. If you encourage their behavior, you are an enabler and they will die sooner rather than later.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 19:15
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You don’t seem to get what I’m saying. I’m not saying eating right and working out isn’t necessary.
I’m saying that you not being obese and some other person being that is most likely not your achievement or their failure. It’s just genetic predisposition.
In most cases it’s actually not hereditary, for some it is however. But in most cases, it’s related to mental disease. Lack of impulse control due to ADHD or depression for example. I went through that, finally on medication for 2 months now and I finally have the headspace to lose weight. And I agree with you, that losing weight works wonders on your health. But it isn’t as easy as you make it out to be.
Social status is also one of those things, especially in countries that are riddled with the cancer that is capitalism. Unhealthy food often is way cheaper than healthy food. Plus, poor people often work 2-3 jobs. They don’t have time to cook healthy meals.
You sound like you don’t believe in ADHD “just finish what you started, have some impulse control!“, or autism “read the room, don’t be so literal and stop getting distracted by noise and light, just ignore it”.
It night be plausible that most people can just avoid the first cigarette or the first spliff or the first anything, but no one can avoid food, and some people’s biology, their hormonal balance, their brain chemistry, mental health, shit, just their metabolic rate can make them have a very, very different order of magnitude of problems with food.
So it’s easy for you to have self control around food and balance your calorie intake with exercise? Great, good for you, but stop acting all morally superior for not having problems in your life.
Get lost with that judgemental “it’s simple” shit and try to learn a bit of self control yourself over what kind of nasty judgementalism you’re spouting online without thinking about other people.
Obesity costs america trillions of tax payer dollars in Healthcare and productivity. Obesity is burying hospitals.
There is no way you can compare adhd or autism to Obesity. Obesity is a choice. Medical conditions are not. People choose to eat more and exercise less. I have no sympathy for people that make everyday life harder on society with no accountability.
The fact that you think having one cheeseburger is the equivalent to Crack cocaine is telling.
All it takes is a 30 minute walk daily and to eat a salad once a day. But apparently that’s too much for some people and now they have to harm society with medial bills, lack of productivity, special treatment, and inconvenience.
The most unhappy, nasty people I know are obese because in there mind they are victims and its everyone else’s fault but their own. They take no ageny or accountability for their actions.
All that weight hurts your body so much and when you can’t even leave the couch to open the door for the 24 wings and loaded fried with a gallon coke , maybe its time for self reflection.
Go ahead. Defend people’s poor life choices that are harming themselves, their family, and their communities. Support their victim mentality and tell them there is nothing that can be done and that they and beautiful just as they are when they need another person with a stick to hold up their fat just so they can have sex.
Obese body positivity is a death sentence and a depression enabler. Every person should always work on themselves to be better and that includes keeping your body and mind well maintained, no matter what their size is.
Congratulations on ignoring literally everything I said and arguing with some fictitious person who is “body positive” about obesity or who doesn’t think it’s a problem. I mean, I’ve come across straw man arguments before, but this one takes the biscuit.
You think your hate and contempt can fix other people, but you’re very, very, very wrong. I wouldn’t be surprised if you shout at homeless people or at last rant about them for half an hour behind their backs.
Also congrats on completely, utterly and comprehensively falling the self control challenge I set you.
Turns out your self control in some things is at absolute zero.
Still really proud of yourself? I bet you really are, because you’re not very introspective so far today.
Because I care and love my friends and family and I want them happy and healthy somehow im a hate monger?
I see you have no experience in actually helping people with depression, drug, and obesity problem. Patting them on the back and telling them they are awesome while their life is out of control is the worst thing you can do. But go ahead and do what makes you feel better instead of actually helping.
You invent so much of my side of the conversation. You argue with what you’d prefer I had said because it’s so easy to disagree with and knock down. You’ve invented this whole nonsense viewpoint and life history for me just so you can come across as more sensible. But it’s insane because it has almost nothing to do with what I said and everything to do with your prejudices and your inability to have some self control over your judgementalism and your condemnatory impulses.
You’ve gotta be rightwing.
Bad people who make bad choices deserve all the bad things that come their way and some more flung at them by you just to show them how wrong they are? That’s where you’re coming from here.
It’s absolutely horrendous and I feel incredibly sorry for these women. It definitely made me feel uncomfortable watching porn for a while.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Aug 21:12
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Wasn’t it a video game? I remember some listicle about video games you can’t get anymore, I think by Guru Larry, and it mentioned a Girls Gone Wild game that was like, a trivia game where a girl would flash the camera if you got the question right or something. One of the girls filmed for the game was 17 years old at the time, and signed up with a fake ID, then sued after the game was launched.
quick google search
No I’m wrong. That happened but it had nothing to do with Girls Gone Wild, it was The Guy Game by “Topheavy Studios.”
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 06 Aug 06:09
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xvideo is affiliate of ph, or at elast its parent company. the other 2 are probably the same too. quite interesting florida gop has to go out of thier way to find the more obscure sites mentioned.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
on 06 Aug 08:10
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Two problems here.
One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?
Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.
Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.
squaresinger@lemmy.world
on 06 Aug 08:16
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If the customers are still in Florida and they still earn money in Florida, they are still subject to Florida law.
The way they handle conflicting requirements in different regions is to use regional flags. It’s quite simple and it’s been done for a long time in more tightly regulated fields like e.g. online shopping.
If it’s legal to sell weed online in some areas and illegal in others, you can’t just say “Well, our servers are in a region where it’s legal so we send weed all over the world.”
akacastor@lemmy.world
on 06 Aug 20:12
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That’s a perfect analogy, I love downloading weed from websites.
Wait, wouldn’t it be legal for a country with legal weed to send it, just illegal go receive it in a jurisdiction where it’s illegal? Like if I lived in the Netherlands I couldn’t be arrested for mailing it to the US, but it’d get stopped at the border.
Because they offer their services to people living in Florida.
Same reason as to why you should include VAT on your prices if you sell to EU citizens
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
on 06 Aug 15:36
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In 2018 SCOTUS ruled that states can require businesses with no physical presence or relationship to a state to collect sales tax for the state, effectively invalidating the Constitution’s Interstate Commerce Clause. Florida may be hoping this precedent along with a corrupt, illegitimate fascist majority in SCOTUS, will allow states to project their own local laws onto the entire country.
This is disgusting. Does anyone have a list of sites so I can block them all right now?
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 13:04
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“Oh, those disgusting revenge sites. But there are so many! Which ones!!!”
thermal_shock@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 16:21
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It’s in the title lol. Also new ones pop-up daily especially international ones. Use Bing to find the videos then see the domain they’re hosted at and go from there. When searching bing, put xxx in the search as well and turn off the safesearch bs.
atrielienz@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 01:53
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I feel like porn websites have money and lots of reasons to want to burn Florida.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
on 07 Aug 13:05
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While I won’t contribute to their defense funds because they have all the money in the world, I do support them in spirit. You can’t beat the porn industry. You can only temporarily inconvenience it.
Suck it, Florida.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 15:36
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In my home town of Houston, the city decided to crack down on the number of topless bars (which developers considered an eyesore). But they still recognized the bigger establishments as lucrative sites for labor exploitation popular with the O&G business community.
So they found a middle ground. There is now a ceiling on licensed venues, with 16 registrations permitted inside city limits. Each club holding a registration must contribute to a $1M pot that’s provided to the Houston PD’s “anti-sex trafficking” division. This affords police a fund by which they can do “undercover investigation” of establishments.
Everyone wins.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
on 07 Aug 18:16
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This sounds very much like the mafia wetting their beak.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the bouncers are all off duty cops too, or hired from security companies owned by cops. That seems to be a very common arrangement when a business wants to ensure the local department remains friendly.
My favorite is when the sites just block access to IPs in those states instead of trying to comply with the laws with a message that says “Your state won’t let us do business and we refuse to violate your privacy.” VPNs gonna see a huge spike in purchases, and lots of angry gooners gonna start writing their representatives as their favorites sites drop off one by one.
I think you are missing the point of what people are upset about. Its not defending the porn industry (though sex work is work and should be seen as a legit job) its more about the age verification not being about protecting kids. Its about censorship and eroding frradom of speech
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Oh thank goodness they didnt name my go to for obtaining porn.
"... and more."
Þey should enforce age verification to look at DeSantis' stupid face.
His face is probably the most offensive thing in Florida, at least when a certain someone isn’t at Mar-a-Lago…
(Also: nice thorn!)
alien in a human meatsuit, his wife is equally a strange person too.
Upvote and a salute for Þe use of Þe Þorn character.
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I upvote brigaded ðheir post history for using þ. þhanks for your philanþropy.
their and they use eth. thanks and philanthropy use thorn.
although I’m the last few years I’ve heard more and more people saying thanks with eth as well.
Fixed
I don’t know if you did it on purpose but that’s the opposite of what I said
Fixed again, but messing with AI scrapers isn’t a bad idea either…
except it’s incorrect usage of the thorn lol “they” uses the eð sound
True, but apparently the attempt to resurrect its use uses it for both the voiced and unvoiced dental fricatives where current English usage uses ‘th’ rather than resurrecting both characters.
then what’s the point… it complicates things further by specifically using a character that has a single sound to replace two different sounds instead of using th which everyone knows has two different sounds.
would be better to just come up with a good th ligature.
“Cost of doing business”
Girls gone wild!?!? What are they making 12 year olds verify their age to jack it to infomercials at 3am?
Its kinda funny how this bill is being introduced under the premise of “protecting children” but Girls Gone Wild is still allowed to operate after getting caught multiple times distributing child pornography
And by funny obviously I mean horrifying
In a state that recently tried removing a bunch of child labor laws.
Wait that’s a good point.
If a child works as a porn actor/ess in Florida would they have had protections from the state?
Actually I don’t want to know the answer
And still allows forced child marriage.
Not funny like a Woody Allen movie, funny like a Woody Allen marriage
We can’t release the Epstein list, but we’re proud to announce the newest Amazon Exclusive release from the Epstein Films catalog!
They have no idea what kids are capable of overcoming to access porn.
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I think I saw a nipple!
I need a good porn tor hidden service. Any good ones?
Tor?
I mean, do you need anything more þan Tor? Doesn't þat do it, all by itself?
Always good to have hidden services instead of having to go to the regular clearnet using Tor.
Ideally, a full dark net would be great. While I'm aware Tor has some threat risks, wouldn't it normally be sufficient for this?
Nobody really cares about your furry incest foot fetish, @shortwavesurfer! We know, and have accepted you anyway 🩵
I do as much as I can over tor and hidden services make it even better since the service doesn’t know where you’re coming from and you don’t know where the service is.
I download podcasts over tor (antennapod), update apps over tor (fdroid), connect to my monero node over tor (various), chat over tor (Signal and SimpleX), and can connect to home assistant over tor. If I could get away with it, I would just direct all of my system traffic over tor all the time. Hell, the only reason I don’t is because I need to log into my bank sometimes.
Services can't tell where you're coming from over Tor, right? Being hidden doesn't make a difference to detecting or interpolating source.
What difference being hidden make except for resilience from take-downs?
Correct, services cannot tell where you are coming from when you are using Tor. However, the service itself has no such protection.
With the crackdown that is occurring on the internet, I think everything is going to have to go into hidden services to remain censorship resistant.
Edit: I think it best to prepare for a world where the only use for the ClearNet is to download Tor, similar to how the only use for Microsoft Edge on Windows is to download Firefox.
Eventually, there may come a day where the clear net is just not used at all.
Cool, same page.
I þink you're more optimistic about how much þe average person cares þan I am.
republicans suing republican donors you love to see it
it also means dick since xvideos is french and headquartered in the czech republic
Really?! Where? 👀
Public airport restrooms and the like.
Washing machine producers hate them.
On all those blocked porn websites
thats where alot of euro-porn is based in
yeah that czechs out
sorry i'll see myself out
He’ll be running for higher office very soon. He’s been in at least one abhorrent headline a week for months. Hope they find the CSAM on his laptop soon so I can stop hearing about this incompetent asshole
LoL STUPID LIBTARD! Republicans LOVE CSAM! Just look at how they Treat Jeffrey Epstein and his BEST FRIEND Donald J Trump!
It was planted by evil sick democrats
desantis had his chance with the presidency, he has to be looking for US senate.
I mean sure but this article isn’t about Desantis
This is going to be the dreamworks and pirate bay situation all over again.
That wil be interesting
You know what’ll also protect the children? Releasing the Epstein files.
I mean, for once, this isn’t just a chant. Epstein was the supplier but we have yet to nail his customers to the wall.
Should be worried about Trump being a child rapist and the Epstein files.
Why not both?
Both what?
One distracts from the other. Priorities.
Probably a dumb question, but if the website servers aren’t physically located in Florida, why must the websites follow Florida law?
State prosecution argues if there’s access in Florida, the site must follow their laws. These sites need to georestrict access and should have done it the day law went into effect.
This is like me saying I have a bucket of books that are illegal in your state but legal in mine. You come to my state and take the books back to yours. Who broke the law?
Good luck trying to find any rational in these legislations, there is none. I can still search for “sexy naked sex” and get thousands of explict image results from google in FL. The laws are not protecting kids, but they are embarrassing legal aged adults and putting sites and creators that previously tried to cooperate out of business.
Edit - hell, the fact reddit and X are somehow exempt should say everything. Sites that kids would visit for totally non-explicit purposes and end up exposed to top trending titties.
SPEZ loves musk, so that makes sense.
Well that’s a really bad example you gave because gun laws explicitly cover that exact case federally. This is more like book banning. Books are banned in your state, not mine, you come and buy them here and take them back there.
Or fireworks. Many states have laws against selling fireworks to state residents, but all you need to do is cross a border or have an out of state license and you can buy them just fine.
Easier to target the few dozen major sources than the millions of users for now. But I agree wholeheartedly with the premise. They’re not setting up a shop in Florida. They’re in entirely different places around the world and Floridians are virtually knocking on their door and taking their digital packages with them back to Florida. Why would the onus be on the server to police the laws local to each client?
More like you see a request coming in from FL and you send them there
Don’t request shit you aren’t allowed to have. My state doesn’t ban me from sending it to you, yours bans you from having it. Tf do I care about your state laws. I don’t live there.
Pornhub blocked Texas day one
Because they’re serving users in Florida, so they must abide by laws relating to servicing customers there.
I’d argue it’s on the state to figure that out (for better or worse). My site is on a globally connected network, if you don’t want your citizens doing something, you figure it out. It’s not my job.
Well true, but look at the EU.
the companies/sites itself can block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose. yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there.
How? I do not think we know of a reliable way, DNS blocking get bypassed by alternative DNS ( and ISP probably do not have per state DNSes) , IP blocking get bypassed via VPN, etc. They can say they did put in place something but it is like puttimg a fence without walls around, it is just symbolic.
Why?
They conduct business in Florida. Their customers aren’t porn watchers, but people who buy ad space. They could stop selling ads in Florida, but they won’t.
To beat your meat, you must provide a drivers license.
No card. No cum.
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Welcome to my new website “Card n’ Cum”
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Said so on “Social media”
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if you need a block list, means you cant control yourself with social media or porn, shame on you for being a hypocrite.
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@Jaded99 @Tollana1234567 the monetization of everything is terrible, not me, all i ever pay for online is steam games XD
Good on ya mate. You don’t need to watch someone sitting on a cake. LOL
Well, you filter your posts, we filter our porn.
How do you know which actors are drugged up, which are trafficked, which may secretly be underage, who was coerced or manipulated, which are willing, which are faking, which are there because otherwise they’d be homeless, which are being abused off camera, which are being raped?
There’s no way to know any of this.
Do you think what you are doing watching it is good and good for you?
Now ask the similar questions, but about movies. I liked Tarantino's movies the most, but then I heard that he harassed some woman. Now I won't watch them anymore, ofc, but I won't give up on the whole industry.
This isn’t social media as most understand it. My wife sometimes gets bent as to what she sees me writing, doesn’t understand that you and I neither know one another nor care to.
You don’t care to know me?
Rude…
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Porn has been around since cave paintings. 😐
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I get where you’re coming from, upvote for contributing an opinion. But I think you’re overestimating the impact of this legislation. This is not ever going to stop internet porn consumption, that boat sailed 30-years ago.
Also, social media is fucking us (heh) worse than porn ever did, not even comparable.
Uhhh what kind of freaky shit are you watching for that to be the image you have of porn?
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Bang on, damn, you got me so good.
Is this really how you carry your arguments? Demeaning and projecting over your opponent? I guess you’re safe from all that insane porn now since you’re failing the ID check for being underage.
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Cool man, fyi generally you want to avoid projecting assumptions on people and listen instead to their actual point. You’re not arguing with caricatures, you’re arguing with other people who might know as much or more than you do, so the preachy tone isn’t doing you any favours in trying to convince people.
A big argument against this type of blocking is giving up private information to private entities to access content that can be tracked back to them is a huge risk for privacy, it doesn’t matter if it’s porn or something else, you can see it in the UK too where speech about Palestine is being blocked by the same ruling that is “protecting children”. Someone else here also raised a good point, why is it on these websites to implement age verification and not on the state, when many of those websites aren’t hosted in Florida?
But no you’re not interested in a good debate, you just see a political choice that aligns with your views and anyone who has issues with the implementation, consequences, or any other issue (including a porn ban in general) is treated like the worst of the worst. “Surely this is a morally good thing, so all who oppose must be morally abhorrent”, except this is exactly why the lawmakers prey on when they implement surveillance type shit all in the name of “protecting the children”, they make it so arguing against it is seen as protecting abusers when the same resolution could be reached in a way that doesn’t infringe on people’s privacy.
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It’s entertainment and it’s been the backbone of technology evolution like it or not, read more here: zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/617469885 and I think people who enjoy to be part of that content (where legal and not abusive) deserve a platform to share it with like minded people.
I do agree that the abusive content should not be allowed on platforms, but that’s already illegal in most places. Further policing is just infringing on people’s rights of doing what they want with their bodies. “My body my choice” isn’t just about pregnancy it’s about anything a consensual adult should be able to do without being judged for it.
Fundamentally though it doesn’t matter what the excuse is, prohibition never works (see war on drugs and the actual prohibition period in the US) and it leads to more people finding this type of content on websites that are not under the eye of the law, which are more likely to host abusive and illegal content. Sex and masturbation are normal for people, and have been part of culture and art for hundreds if not thousands of years. There are ways to enjoy it ethically (as we have for decades before OF) and we should pursue that, but consider for a moment that the problem is not sex and pornography itself (because we’ve had erotica in anything from medieval paintings to fine art photography), but the economical factors that push platforms to highlight it more and more and people to get into it for a quick buck because it sells and makes them money. Social media is nowadays full of onlyfans creators advertising their profiles, and who can fully blame them when the economy is in shambles? But really that has a way bigger impact on male loneliness than porn itself, they just bombard you with ads and ads to see explicit content even when you don’t want to, and that’s rewiring people’s brains.
Because, and I’ll entertain your puritan view for a second, where does it stop if we block porn outright? Is nude photography illegal now? showing a nipple? Uncovered belly or feet? How far will we have to go for the brain addled vices of a few people? And this is all just bandaids, because as I said before, the issue is not porn, it’s those taking advantage of it to sell as much of it as possible even at the detriment of people’s mental health. There is space for nuance.
That’s a whole lotta words for I need to cooooom
Sorry I forgot kids get distracted quickly, I’ll use fewer words next time
I have zero respect for coomer humour LOL now go log on to XXXcaveman and abuse yourself then called it a contribution to evolution and technology lmao 🤣
Sir, they do offer therapy for people with issues like yours.
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Well yea, unlike you I actually got help.
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I don’t think you’re understanding the issue here. It’s not a “porn is bad” issue. It’s a foreign government dictating how a service that is not hosted in their country is run issue.
If you think Florida has any right to dictate how a French company is run then idk what to tell you. Florida has no jurisdiction in France.
Totally missing the point like an idiot.
But yes let’s let the USA set the rules for content in other countries by means of government regulation and pressuring visa to become the morality and wrong think police. What could go wrong???
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Lol less than a week old account with the dumbest take of the day. Obvious troll. Try harder.
Well, they are in fact breaking the law. Doesn’t matter what we think about that law, they’re in clear violation. Cannot imagine why they didn’t geofence like PornHub did. Hell, I did blocked entire countries at my last job with a simple pfSense router. This ain’t rocket science. Guess their greed got 'em?
Also, can anyone explain why a foreign operator would give two fucks? Remember The Pirate Bay’s great responses?
Why should any website operator be held responsible for complying with every stupid law in every podunk shithole jurisdiction everywhere in the world? By this logic, every site should comply with whatever unhinged BS North Korea and Saudi Arabia insist upon, too – is that what you want?
If Florida doesn’t like these websites that are not hosted in Florida, that’s Florida’s problem, not the website operators’, and Florida can do its own damn geofencing itself.
I agree with every single thing you stated. But the article is about these sites breaking Florida law, and they are. Never said anything about this was sane, but again, if I operated a porn site, I’d fence Florida off as a CYA measure.
No, that’s not true. You cannot break a law when the government in question has no jurisdiction over you. The sites are not breaking Florida law because they are not subject to Florida law in the first place.
Not every site, but if they’re making money from people in Florida they would be subject to Florida law:
…findlaw.com/…/standards-for-internet-jurisdictio…
Sites outside the country are probably fine but if they’re in the USA not using a geolock is foolish.
People are downvoting you because you’re telling them that the law isn’t fair, sucks my friend.
I do wonder if Xvideos or some of these other companies that are primarily international have any infrastructure in the US/Florida that could be affected by a ruling of some sort. I feel like there might be something there depending on how they’re taking payment for services like Xvideos Red.
People are being downvoted because no one is beholden to the laws of a state/province/jurisdiction/etc that they have no relation with. Foreign authorities do not get to force their will onto foreign entities.
Meanwhile Nascar literally has races sponsored by BlueChew and every other fucking ad during a race is for bent dick disease, all on easily accessed channels.
Don’t forget the sports betting and poker apps! Good clean wholesome gambling! Sponsoring your favorite athletic entertainment!
And all the alcohol ads.
Ah. That explains it. Conservative pols are extorting porn sites for donations.
Pyronis disease 😭
Solution:
Make a site only available in [insert a privacy-respecting country]
Then anyone else gets redirected to a “This website is not available in your country, please use a VPN and set it to [country]”
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Profit?
Yeah the key there is to invest in shares in a VPN company.
My shithole(ruzzia) is actively trying to shut them down. Now it's a hefty fine for advertising VPN, and they recently even added law that punishes "search of illegal content". Whatever the hell they mean by that.
🤔 I kinda want to type “illegal content” into Yandex now
Band-aid for a gun shot wound.
We need to make the very politicians, activists, etc., who made these kinds of laws possible to fear for their lives.
Unrelated to the article itself, but god fucking damn is that website absolutely absurd. It looks like a shitty campaign website. The sad sad man changed the seal of the office and put an eagle (because books are lame I guess) and “free state of florida” at the bottom like that’s a real thing. Can’t believe this works on people.
Prelude to a closed (north korea/russia style) internet?
Don’t forget China-style. But yes.
Time to start small-time porn groups.
Ask your friends for their nudes.
Can I borrow some of your friends, all of mine are ugly.
That just makes the session last longer
No. An unhealthy body is not attractive. Reject complacency and obesity.
There a vast amount of space between unhealthy physique and the unrealistic beauty standards in media.
There is also a vast amount of space between a normal human body and the bodies that most Americans now have. That has nothing to do with the unrealistic beauty standards in media (which is also a thing)
Obesity is bad, and it annoys me when people start defending it as being beautiful. It’s not, it will kill you in loads of unpleasant ways.
Get healthy, exercise, eat less, eat less sugars
Nobody in the thread above mentioned obesity. Nobody is saying you have to be attracted to obese people. Or disputing that it’s unhealthy.
It remains true that there is a lot of space between this extreme and the extreme portrayed in media. Body weight is not the only standard, it’s one of many.
… Nobody mentioned obesity but we’re talking about body weight… I mean, it’s on topic, y’know.
And while body weight is not the only standard, it is a good indication of health. If you’re twice overweight, you will die sooner and likely in a not so comfortable way. Handhaving that away with “well, it’s one thing but there are others too” feels a bit disingenuous.
Yeah, there are loads of ways to die but this one is very preventable
I’ve read that American food is particularly bad, and you are right, but the factor contributing most is the metabolism with which you are born, other things important are levels of stress, ability to sleep well.
Exercise is important, yes. Eating right is as well. Just keep in mind that some things are outside your control, and if you think your health is your own achievement, that might not be entirely correct.
Eh, no
The factor that matters most isn’t your metabolism. If that were true we’d have sever overweight issues since thousands of years but we haven’t. The overweight pandemic is caused by too much food, period.
Want to lose weight? Whatever your metabolism is, eat less, eat healthier. It’s that simple.
Yeah, exercise a lot, that’s healthy and needed. It won’t make you think though unless you really exercise a lot (3+ hours a day, every day)
Easiest way is to just eat less. Eat smaller portions, stop eating processed foods, cut your sugar intake.
There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you’re interested
Interested.
I’ve met people far more beautiful than most you can see in mainstream media, let alone adult materials.
(And in case one bitch with ASPD is stalking me, no, I don’t mean her ; that is, this is true for her too.)
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No one mentioned obesity except you.
Stop projecting your own self-hatred into others.
Stop bringing hatred into this discussion.
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But… that’s what you did?
How is promoting healthy living hatred?
Obesity is a result of many things. It’s mostly
hereditarywhatever you are born with, so the comment you are answering is right.Just like other cases of “unhealthy”. Just like with them, though, it’s possible to find one’s optimum in food and sports and sleep to feel better, and a person who feels better is usually more attractive.
But looking like models you can find in the interwebs is just not possible if you are not already like them.
Obesity is not hereditary. It is calories in, calories out. You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.
People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.
It usually is.
Passing through your individual system. Mine, for example, very badly processes sugars. One teaspoon of sugar in tea means I stink like cat piss in half an hour after drinking that tea.
There are “fat” models, and also it’s usually not your choice as I have previously said.
In case someone thinks I have a skin in the game - I’m as thin as a skeleton. But I have family members overweight and you really don’t know what you’re talking about, they are among the most healthy eating people I know and still their weight requires precision and discipline in their diet, both more than you likely ever achieved in life, sorry if rude.
Yeah, it’s better to be healthy and rich than sick and poor, as they say to such statements where I live.
Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?
Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.
They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.
Why are you taking personal attacks at me? Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much. If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.
I can’t show it to you, it’s a hard subject requiring a lot of data. But everybody having obese relatives know that they generally eat the same things and still get obese!
You don’t know what you are talking about.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Yep, exercise is very good, with different effects on different people still.
Because:
It’s a different magnitude self control issue for different people. It’s a self control issue for me - if I eat only burgers for a month, I might start getting obese (more likely just die), I just have to avoid that. It’s a self control issue for my sister - if with her steamed vegetable diet she exercises a bit less, she gains weight. These are not comparable.
You are not saying anything valuable, that’s just how this works. Health is complex.
Health is not complex. Eat right. Work out. Everything else falls into place.
Stop making excuses for bad habits that harm people. If you truly cared about your friends and family, you will tell them when they are unhealthy. If you encourage their behavior, you are an enabler and they will die sooner rather than later.
You don’t seem to get what I’m saying. I’m not saying eating right and working out isn’t necessary.
I’m saying that you not being obese and some other person being that is most likely not your achievement or their failure. It’s just genetic predisposition.
I don’t need excuses in this setting.
In most cases it’s actually not hereditary, for some it is however. But in most cases, it’s related to mental disease. Lack of impulse control due to ADHD or depression for example. I went through that, finally on medication for 2 months now and I finally have the headspace to lose weight. And I agree with you, that losing weight works wonders on your health. But it isn’t as easy as you make it out to be.
Social status is also one of those things, especially in countries that are riddled with the cancer that is capitalism. Unhealthy food often is way cheaper than healthy food. Plus, poor people often work 2-3 jobs. They don’t have time to cook healthy meals.
You sound like you don’t believe in ADHD “just finish what you started, have some impulse control!“, or autism “read the room, don’t be so literal and stop getting distracted by noise and light, just ignore it”.
It night be plausible that most people can just avoid the first cigarette or the first spliff or the first anything, but no one can avoid food, and some people’s biology, their hormonal balance, their brain chemistry, mental health, shit, just their metabolic rate can make them have a very, very different order of magnitude of problems with food.
So it’s easy for you to have self control around food and balance your calorie intake with exercise? Great, good for you, but stop acting all morally superior for not having problems in your life.
Get lost with that judgemental “it’s simple” shit and try to learn a bit of self control yourself over what kind of nasty judgementalism you’re spouting online without thinking about other people.
Obesity costs america trillions of tax payer dollars in Healthcare and productivity. Obesity is burying hospitals.
There is no way you can compare adhd or autism to Obesity. Obesity is a choice. Medical conditions are not. People choose to eat more and exercise less. I have no sympathy for people that make everyday life harder on society with no accountability.
The fact that you think having one cheeseburger is the equivalent to Crack cocaine is telling.
All it takes is a 30 minute walk daily and to eat a salad once a day. But apparently that’s too much for some people and now they have to harm society with medial bills, lack of productivity, special treatment, and inconvenience.
The most unhappy, nasty people I know are obese because in there mind they are victims and its everyone else’s fault but their own. They take no ageny or accountability for their actions.
All that weight hurts your body so much and when you can’t even leave the couch to open the door for the 24 wings and loaded fried with a gallon coke , maybe its time for self reflection.
Go ahead. Defend people’s poor life choices that are harming themselves, their family, and their communities. Support their victim mentality and tell them there is nothing that can be done and that they and beautiful just as they are when they need another person with a stick to hold up their fat just so they can have sex.
Obese body positivity is a death sentence and a depression enabler. Every person should always work on themselves to be better and that includes keeping your body and mind well maintained, no matter what their size is.
Congratulations on ignoring literally everything I said and arguing with some fictitious person who is “body positive” about obesity or who doesn’t think it’s a problem. I mean, I’ve come across straw man arguments before, but this one takes the biscuit.
You think your hate and contempt can fix other people, but you’re very, very, very wrong. I wouldn’t be surprised if you shout at homeless people or at last rant about them for half an hour behind their backs.
Also congrats on completely, utterly and comprehensively falling the self control challenge I set you.
Turns out your self control in some things is at absolute zero.
Still really proud of yourself? I bet you really are, because you’re not very introspective so far today.
Because I care and love my friends and family and I want them happy and healthy somehow im a hate monger?
I see you have no experience in actually helping people with depression, drug, and obesity problem. Patting them on the back and telling them they are awesome while their life is out of control is the worst thing you can do. But go ahead and do what makes you feel better instead of actually helping.
You invent so much of my side of the conversation. You argue with what you’d prefer I had said because it’s so easy to disagree with and knock down. You’ve invented this whole nonsense viewpoint and life history for me just so you can come across as more sensible. But it’s insane because it has almost nothing to do with what I said and everything to do with your prejudices and your inability to have some self control over your judgementalism and your condemnatory impulses.
You’ve gotta be rightwing.
Bad people who make bad choices deserve all the bad things that come their way and some more flung at them by you just to show them how wrong they are? That’s where you’re coming from here.
Now you are assuming my political beliefs?! Good lord.
Self worth and accountability cut across all political spectrums.
You’re probably right wing for keeping people fat and stupid so they cant march and fight back.
Girls gone wild is still in activity? Didn’t they lost the lawsuit for coercing all those girls and even have some minor in their videos?
Fuck them
I did a bit of googling as you unlocked that memory, but it’s actually Girls Do Porn.
If anyone hasn’t heard of them, you can read about it here arstechnica.com/…/jane-does-v-girlsdoporn-how-22-…
It’s absolutely horrendous and I feel incredibly sorry for these women. It definitely made me feel uncomfortable watching porn for a while.
Wasn’t it a video game? I remember some listicle about video games you can’t get anymore, I think by Guru Larry, and it mentioned a Girls Gone Wild game that was like, a trivia game where a girl would flash the camera if you got the question right or something. One of the girls filmed for the game was 17 years old at the time, and signed up with a fake ID, then sued after the game was launched.
quick google search
No I’m wrong. That happened but it had nothing to do with Girls Gone Wild, it was The Guy Game by “Topheavy Studios.”
xvideo is affiliate of ph, or at elast its parent company. the other 2 are probably the same too. quite interesting florida gop has to go out of thier way to find the more obscure sites mentioned.
Two problems here.
One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?
Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.
Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.
If the customers are still in Florida and they still earn money in Florida, they are still subject to Florida law.
The way they handle conflicting requirements in different regions is to use regional flags. It’s quite simple and it’s been done for a long time in more tightly regulated fields like e.g. online shopping.
If it’s legal to sell weed online in some areas and illegal in others, you can’t just say “Well, our servers are in a region where it’s legal so we send weed all over the world.”
That’s a perfect analogy, I love downloading weed from websites.
Use illegal pornography instead if you like that analogy better.
Wait, wouldn’t it be legal for a country with legal weed to send it, just illegal go receive it in a jurisdiction where it’s illegal? Like if I lived in the Netherlands I couldn’t be arrested for mailing it to the US, but it’d get stopped at the border.
Because they offer their services to people living in Florida.
Same reason as to why you should include VAT on your prices if you sell to EU citizens
In 2018 SCOTUS ruled that states can require businesses with no physical presence or relationship to a state to collect sales tax for the state, effectively invalidating the Constitution’s Interstate Commerce Clause. Florida may be hoping this precedent along with a corrupt, illegitimate fascist majority in SCOTUS, will allow states to project their own local laws onto the entire country.
So that’s why every site started charging sales tax at the same time. Wonderful.
Yup. When it comes to fucking the people the SCOTUS votes in unison.
If these companies wanted to spin up a lobbying and PR group, they would have huge reach.
Which would cause other problems down the line, but they’d crush this particular problem.
I gotta admit, I’d love to see what their lobbying could accomplish.
TIL about a bunch of new porn sites cause republicans cant understand the streisand effect.
Meanwhile, Robin L. Rosenberg of the Southern District of Florida is the judge that blocked the release of the Epstein files.
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or child marriages (legal pedophila), or protecting pedophiles, then they literally fuck the children
literally, i suppose, in the case of the republicans
Republicans think of the children a little more than they should.
Well now I have some new sites to visit
This is disgusting. Does anyone have a list of sites so I can block them all right now?
“Oh, those disgusting revenge sites. But there are so many! Which ones!!!”
It’s in the title lol. Also new ones pop-up daily especially international ones. Use Bing to find the videos then see the domain they’re hosted at and go from there. When searching bing, put xxx in the search as well and turn off the safesearch bs.
I feel like porn websites have money and lots of reasons to want to burn Florida.
While I won’t contribute to their defense funds because they have all the money in the world, I do support them in spirit. You can’t beat the porn industry. You can only temporarily inconvenience it.
Suck it, Florida.
In my home town of Houston, the city decided to crack down on the number of topless bars (which developers considered an eyesore). But they still recognized the bigger establishments as lucrative sites for labor exploitation popular with the O&G business community.
So they found a middle ground. There is now a ceiling on licensed venues, with 16 registrations permitted inside city limits. Each club holding a registration must contribute to a $1M pot that’s provided to the Houston PD’s “anti-sex trafficking” division. This affords police a fund by which they can do “undercover investigation” of establishments.
Everyone wins.
This sounds very much like the mafia wetting their beak.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the bouncers are all off duty cops too, or hired from security companies owned by cops. That seems to be a very common arrangement when a business wants to ensure the local department remains friendly.
My favorite is when the sites just block access to IPs in those states instead of trying to comply with the laws with a message that says “Your state won’t let us do business and we refuse to violate your privacy.” VPNs gonna see a huge spike in purchases, and lots of angry gooners gonna start writing their representatives as their favorites sites drop off one by one.
Republicans so fuckin’ stupid they’re trying prohibition again, but this time with porn.
Oh they’re coming for everything but alcohol.
And pedos!
Why would they go after themselves.
To quote dear leader who is most definitely implicated and ran his campaign on releasing the Epstein files, “Are we still talking about Epstein!?”
Every day. Forever.
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Prohibition was a failure as a moral crusade but enormously successful as a money making and politicking endeavor.
slapping the hood of the police state: You can fit so many more cops in this thing!
Well, at least they don’t already have an issue with organized pedophile rings operating within their state, right?
I personally can’t wait for people to start making porn in the backwoods and running away from the cops while fucking in the bed of their pickups.
shits gonna be wild.
Seethe hard Santis.
Isn’t this like mainstream advertising for these sites in places they can’t advertise?
Florida can drown in hell
I think they literally will, eventually.
Shocking to see people defending one of the most exploitative industries out there just because its the republicans prosecuting them
I think you are missing the point of what people are upset about. Its not defending the porn industry (though sex work is work and should be seen as a legit job) its more about the age verification not being about protecting kids. Its about censorship and eroding frradom of speech