OneNote to perish alongside Windows 10.
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from Tea@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 19:37
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from Tea@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 24 Mar 19:37
https://programming.dev/post/27475846
OneNote for Windows 10 will lose support on October 14, 2025. Users are urged to switch to OneNote on Microsoft 365 as soon as possible. A delayed switchover can lead to slower synchronization and regular notifications from Microsoft.
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The Windows 10 UWP app. The Office 2016 desktop Onenote isn’t going anywhere (yet).
or the MS 365 version for that matter
OneNote for office 2016 was a brilliant piece of software (for once). Then they gutted it out, moved it to the cloud and forced you to use the crappy win10 version.
That’s more or less the time I switched my notes to Notion (first), then to Obsidian.
A long time ago I started a one note.
Then I thought "what happens when they discontinue this? How will I make use of the file?
Idk if you can export one notes and keep the organization, etc intact but I’m glad I didn’t keep using it back then.
I can’t imagine OneNote will ever disappear. It’s ingrained in a lot of businesses. The under-featured UWP app on the other hand is no loss.
Ah, gotcha. I don’t know what UWP means. I only read the headline of this one, I blame that.
Yeah but I think the UWP version was the only version that didn’t have the stupid bug where your handwritten notes would move around randomly after you exited the notebook sometimes. Idk if they fixed that but last time I checked it was a very old bug known to exist in the other version and only work in that version.
Ha, my former employer stored everything in OneNote. It was a dirty CRM, asset db and documentation system for them.
I told em it was a bad plan. (non-365, too cheap for it)
I fucking hate how Microsoft makes several different versions of OneNote, Teams, Outlook, MS accounts, etc. and then gives them the same name, and a very similar icon.
I can’t wrap my head around who thought it was a good idea to have two Teams apps installed, with almost identical icons, and if you log into the personal Teams with an enterprise account or vice versa, you just get an error message.
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
But how? And why? Where’s the profit in that?
You have to have redundant software in order to operate. More versions is more purchase transactions. End user hostile garbage.
Amen. There were actually three Teams clients at the same time (the Windows 11-bundled Teams “personal version”, Teams [for business] and Teams [the new version]). Not to mention they also have Skype for Business (which is actually Lync rebranded, which is Communicator rebranded) which is not interoperable at all with Teams even though it’s also an Office 365 conferencing app. And of course, Skype for Business is a completely different code base than Skype. Aaand they had Microsoft Kaizala which was basically the same use case but a completely different and incompatible implementation for countries with bad connectivity.
It’s a complete and utter shitshow and I can’t fathom why heads aren’t rolling at Microsoft. Makes me think of this email from Bill Gates back in the day. If he was CEO now he would be fuming.
Teams could have been a plugin on outlook. Now I need two apps to talk to everyone on work.
Every time I talk to my mom about her work with Microsoft products I’m dumbfounded “you have 3 tools from the same author and none of them interact with each other in any meaningful way but you have to use all 3 to get anything done?”
In order to resolve a concern, she has to check teams for the message to check her outlook for the email which will link to the ticket on Azure… And this isn’t even an uncommon workflow lmao
Oh it gets better than that.
There are two calendars, one in outlook and another one in teams. They don’t work the same way. If you have a teams meeting you need to attend you have to open that meeting in the teams calendar. Opening it up in the outlook calendar will just show the time but won’t connect you to the call.
There‘s a button in the Outlook meeting to connect you or you click the link at bottom.
Eww no, Teams is a Slack like work chat app, Outlook is an email client and email is the worst thing to happen to corporate communication, email is only good for company wide announcements. The threaded view of a email chat looks idiotic, I’ve never met someone over the age of 40 who knows how to find an old email with attachments, so they keep asking you to email them the same files as attachments over and over again, it’s slow as he’ll, nothings more excruciating than the silence where you are on a meeting someone sends a email to someone else and now everyone has to wait for the email to arrive in the inbox. If it’s not instant messaging I dont want it, “Yours sincerely” has no place in 2025 for me
It’s often the only way for intercompany communication. Even if both companies use teams the various it departments have to do some incantation in order to make them talk to each other.
Sometimes meetings would be on the outlook calendar and not on the teams calendar or vice verse and then theres also shifts which is only viewable through teams and it makes me want to pull my hair out
Also it seems like every one note version is good at some task or has access to formatting/organization options that others can only view.
I wish there was an open source solution in a similar manner to immich (quality and organization) wise.
There are boatloads of various note-taking apps, both open-source and not, that are much better than OneNote. Take a look at noteapps.info/features, where you can browse by specific features you’re interested in. I’ve just recently switched from running DokuWiki for my homelab documentation to Joplin and I’m really loving it so far (I’ve setup sync to Hetzner’s S3 service).
The only thing that’s been keeping me on OneNote is the handwriting stuff. I keep trying to move to Obsidian cause I like it but I take notes on my iPad constantly. As much or more than on my computer.
And I really like how OneNote will take my chicken scratch and use OCR to turn it into actual text.
Its a pain in the fucking ass when managing Macs on an MDM and you want specific icons in the dock. Teams would update and change the name but the profile would point to the now non existent old name and then there would just be a “?” Users would think they no longer have that application on their device even though you could access perfectly fine from launchpad or through the applications alias
You’ve regularly got the same issue on Windows, amazingly.
What’s up Joplin gang!
Joplin is nice and what I use currently. I came across obsidian the other day which I found a plugin that makes it function more like OneNote. Only issue is the sync as far as I can tell is subscriptin based. I imagine a plugin exists for that but haven't looked yet.
I use both Dropbox and iCloud to sync Obsidian vaults and have no issues. No need to pay their subscription in my experience.
I use syncthing with obsidian, and save my files in a cloud synced folder on my desktop. Free sync across all my devices, plus easy cloud backups.
What plugin is it? Been using Obsidian as well since it’s the best replacement I’ve found that also has easy self hosted syncing (Remotely plugin via WebDAV)
Its a community plugin called CardNote. You can find it in the settings menu.
No, The OneNote UWP app is going away (“OneNote for Windows 10”), OneNote itself is still a part of office & still maintained
Frankly they should have nuked “OneNote for Windows 10” long ago and quietly replaced it with the Office version. Or better yet, not launch a separate version to begin with under the same name. But this is Microsoft, having multiple apps with the same name is just the norm.
Oh, gee. A Microsoft product that worked perfectly locally is about to require a subscription. Who could have possibly guessed that would happen, yet again? (This is sarcasm.)
I really like OneNote, but I decided to learn something else when I realized which way the wind was blowing.
Do what I did a few months back and switch to Obsidian.
Especially if you write any code. It’s way better for that.
You will need to either
This. Your data is stored in .md text files so even if Obidian somehow stopped being the best your data is so easy to move around.
Also add to your list mega.nz works for syncing Obsidian across many systems.
Or just push your entire vault to github or some other git host and then push and pull commits using the Git plug-in from the Obsidian community store. Also I wouldn’t mind paying a subscription for syncing, you can’t expect people to keep working on something for free, if I like a tool and I want it to stick around and keep getting updates, I will pay for it. It’s just that bloody apple won’t allow the Obsidian sync to work on the iPhone without moving your entire vault to Apple Icloud and I’m not doing that, once I switch back to android I’ll start paying for the sync subscription
I could go a lifetime without ever using OneNote again. That goes doubly for a web version.
OneNote was definitely one of the apps of all time
Oh definitely. It was an app that was installed on my computer.
Good. My ex-boss had one Gigabytes sized OneNote file, where all team-meetings got noted down and kept there forever. I hope it has finally flown around his ears since i left.
Would you like to die in the app? How about the desktop? In a browser? In teams? In that other shit website Microsoft has …SharePoint! How about saving into one drive??? Nah! Close biatch! Choose!
I loved OneNote as a student. It still is pretty unmatched if you want to take pen enabled notes IMO. I would download lecture slides and annotate them, also recording the prof. So I could highlight my annotations later and see what the professor said! Pretty slick and haven’t found anything comparable since. But I don’t need this kind of use case as much anymore and have moved to Joplin
My first thought reading this was, “Why does moving to Joplin, MO have anything to do with note-taking?”
It’s a great open source note app! I’ve been using it a couple years and like it a lot
i’ve had a it of trouble figuring out how to move my stuff over and still can’t. do you know how?
I didn’t attempt to import my onenote notes to Joplin, since they were old class notes and handwritten, which Joplin doesn’t handle that well yet (though they do have a new drawing capability). Googling around, it looked like there are some tools, and some that they’re actively working on discourse.joplinapp.org/t/onenote-importer/…/7
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If there’s one type of app with no shortage of options, it’s notes apps. Just look at the other responses here I’m sure there are dozens being evangelized already.
I very much doubt that this alone will push users onto Microsoft 365, like MS seems to be hoping it will.
good