When we make lobbying illegal in this country the United States

Europe is doing it. Look at Apple vs Spotify, as well as Apple forced to open their app stores to 3rd parties. Those are consumer oriented laws. In the USA, lobbying prevent those from happening.

US: best we can do is a other corporate tax cut

I’m pretty sure this won’t fly in court because this is a significant change to a product long after the product was purchased, which could potentially fly in the face of false advertising laws, since this “feature” was not advertised, and they’re not being denied access to a product they purchased. It’s clearly coercive.

However, this is the USA and stupider shit has happened. Judges here love to gargle corporate balls. See: Clearance Thomas.

Scepter seems to be the well recommended budget option

My setup is a Samsung that doesn’t have WiFi setup. It supports HDMI CEC, as does my game console and streaming box, so I basically never touch the TV remote. It’s effectively a dumb monitor.

I mostly stream via my Xbox and AppleTV since they’re performant systems.

Most LGs can be set up without internet at all.

Rtings is a good site for tv reviews across a wide range of price levels. I’ve used several their reviews to make purchases and have been satisfied thus far.

Best Budget TV’s

Maybe just buy a monitor, particularly if you only need streaming.

Smart TVs are usually sold at a loss because they expect to make the money back through ads, so if you never connect one to the internet in the first place, you get a cheap decent TV and you cost these cockroaches money

Any TV is dumb, if you don’t connect it to the net

I tried to find one without Smart TV features and they do exist, just not at the mid tier and above and not from any mainline brands. Good news is, at the low tier you might have some luck. I’m personally getting an LG, but I heard WebOS is easy to root so I won’t have those Roku problems.

Commercial display TVs. They are dumb TVs with modern displays.

Do it, its worth the effort

Build a Plex/Jellyfin server while you’re at it

There will certainly be many lawsuits about it, no doubt. They e shot themselves in the foot for no reason here. What a dumb move.

Hadn’t actually thought about this but it’s a good point, they are varying the T&Cs with no consideration here.

But don’t you see, the consumer surely benefits. After agreeing they get to continue using their tv under our new and wonderful terms of service. /s

I honestly think a lot of these terms of service agreements are legally unenforceable, but they don’t get contested in court very often.

Like if they say “you consented to the arbitration agreement” I could just argue I never physically signed anything and it was actually my 5 year old who agreed so he could watch TV.

I expect them to have to fuck themselves

Damn I love that for some reason. Thanks for a giggle

if we could afford to sue them, we would.

Yeah our special needs child didn’t have much to say about the new terms. He probably didn’t read the whole thing though

It isn’t, an 8 year old can’t be held to a contract like this. IANAL.

Yeah, this is really dumb. There’s no way they can prove the owner clicked on it and they can’t hold anyone else to the terms.

What does a moded Nvidia shield give you? Is it rooted or something else. I’m curious because I have been looking at them as a replace for Chromecast android tv

I spend the last couple weeks looking Into modded boxes and anti ad options and I came to the conclusion that a mini pc with wireless keyboard and mouse is the way to go. No special nonsense required. It’s super easy to just find whatever I wanna watch online for free anyways and I don’t need any special program or knowledge.

Now my next issue is between finding a dumb TV or a solid affordable projector. I mostly use the TV for movie nights anyways, I game on my pc and watch most stuff on my pc too.

Especially for physical goods.

I have a smart light switch I can’t use anymore because they updated the app to force you to make an account to use it and I refused since it worked fine for the last 3 years without them needing to sell my data.

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If you can’t see that the issue is that the TOS could include anything the company wants and that disagreeing means the device I already paid for is intentionally bricked then I don’t know what to tell you.

if there was actual choice involved you might have a point but it doesn’t really matter what changes when you don’t have the ability to decline.

but for the record I believe this update removed your right to legal recourse and forces you through binding arbitration, so yes, this one does have something worth being pissed about.

I let my cat step on the remote. Fucker doesn’t pull his weight, so if the lawyers come after him he’s on his own.

“Am I legally liable or is logic to be applied here”

Oh c’mon, apply some logic, you know logic won’t be applied, money will.

Why not? The Vatican has believed that kids as young 6 are capable of consenting to sodomy since at least The 11th Century, and for the most part, the courts and cops have tacitly agreed with them. If anything, Roku is finally catching up with the rest of humanity

Dude it’s a terms of service update, it’s not like watching ads on a subscription you already pay for.

I’ve been looking for a couple of days. It looks like Kodi is probably the way to go.

You can use any of a number of remote controls, or even a modern cell phone.

Unless your media server is up to the full task of transcoding it needs to have a little bit of horsepower to do transcoding on the client.

do you want to pir8 stuff or watch streaming apps (Netflix, Hulu, HBO max?)

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about