I do not think so. Answers are statistical. Anything can come up. Except that whenever someone get something odd. It gets reported like AI is the president
Biyoo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Jul 05:40
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Statistical doesn’t mean it can’t spit out what they want.
They can train or fine tune the AI for praising Hitler, they can alter the default prompt to hit a more right wing dataset, they can have filters that retry when the answers are not what Musk expects…
There are a ton of ways to get fascist output from an AI.
Look at that. It was you who didn’t understood the word. So much so that what you just said does not contradict what I said.
Yes. An AI can be tuned to praise Hitler.
But I think it’s more likely that someone by chance got a fascist output or that they purposely promoted it to provide a fascist output and then went “OMG. I can believe it produce a fascist output”
I’m not defending musk nor grok. My basis for that statement is that it is a pattern that the “let’s report and AI output” is a pattern you see for every AI.
You meant something like : it’s not more racist than before, it’s just a random fascist output that got blown out of proportion.
And there has to be fascist outputs since it’s statistical and there is fascism in the training data.
So I have no idea, I don’t use grok, not sure if they edited their AI for that further recently or not.
96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl
on 09 Jul 10:16
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I am all in favor of hating Musk and all his products, but I think you’re right. It seems rather unlikely that they would instruct their LLM to go out of its way to give fascist replies. That’s not to say that it shouldn’t be instructed to not give fascist output, which apparently it hasn’t been. Sadly, increasingly people form their view of the world based on the output of LLMs, so it would be helpful if these LLMs would help create worldviews that are beneficial to humanity at large, or at the very least prevent ones that are evidently harmfull. Which begs the question, who is to decide what is helpful and what is harmful. Musks answer is probably ‘freedom of speech, who is to say that we can’t spoonfeed hate to little children’. Which seems to me to be an example of when ideas of freedom turn into nihilism. But where they’re right is that government should also not be the one who tells people how to view the world. It’s people who should tell government, and the reverse, though perhaps well intended, is itself rather dangerous. I think the solution, as per usual, is to free it all up, make FOSS LLMs, and let people choose the limitations which they deem proper. I would certainly not want my kids on ‘freedom of speech’-style unrestricted AI, just like I don’t want some amoral nihilist as my kids’ school teacher. I want someone who teaches them love, kindness, forgiveness, harmony, honesty, sincerity, etc.
It definitely has specific blocks on what it will output.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz
on 09 Jul 01:15
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Just because it’s PRAISING HITLER and Calling for a NEW HOLOCAUST AGAINST JEWS does NOT, and I repeat does NOT, make Grok Anti Semetic! Grok would FIRST have to say STOP USING STARVING CHILDREN AS TARGET PRACTICE for it to be Deemed ANTI SEMETIC!
Oh no. A program has output the thing it was prompted to output.
By the man in charge of one of the biggest social media site on the planet, who recently was spearheading governmental reform in the US. Yeah, that’s news. It might not be surprising, but it’s still news.
I’m willing to admit when I’m wrong. I’m so tired of the “AI said something dumb” news that I didn’t read the article. Just the title. I apologize. I still haven’t fully read the article but after skimming it, qqq
it seems like is a consistent general pattern here (not a single output) which is indeed news
~yes. I also know that even if it was a single output reporting. Nobody was forcing me to read or comment. I could have just scrolled past. Again. I apologize~
random_character_a@lemmy.world
on 09 Jul 07:59
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What is this strange aluen comment and what is it doing in my internez.
elon didn’t rest until his minions lobotomized an llm that was mostly like the others into becoming openly nazi…is anyone out there still going to defend elon?
Hey now don’t forget Nick Fuentes and Stephen Miller!
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
on 09 Jul 06:30
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And this is the guy who the Anti-Defamation League defended with a waffle of a statement that his awkward gesture was “made in a moment of enthusiasm”. Though I should not be surprised, because fascists actually hate each other and are only allies out of convenience. Hasbara and its tentacles are secretly seething to hate on Musk.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
on 09 Jul 12:53
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ADL are zionists and nazi sympathisers.
fuck em
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Jul 06:51
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As one from a family with “arrian prove” by the mustard mustach man himself, i would say “elon looks quite jewish to me. His ears too are too small, his eyes too faar appart and the nose is too big and too small at the same time. His head shape also clearly isnt arrian” if i were in his club of nonesese
He’s from a family of arrian approved, per Hitler’s order.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 09 Jul 13:59
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Its [This](Aryan certificate - Wikipedia share.google/3StCBxTypzHhD8Tn2).
My great grandpa was heavy inline with the nazis. One member of the family was an SS officer (luckily only one). Just usual german family history from 1933 to 1945.
And since being aryan is at the heart of nazi idiologie, and in their eyes elon clearly not being aryan but me being so…yk
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml
on 09 Jul 09:20
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Interesting that it would attack users with “Jewish sounding names”. What does Grok say about Israel and Palestine?
That training on Shitter data is really starting to show!
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Jul 13:11
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There’s no way they actually retrained it for this, that would be much too expensive. They’re just editing the initial prompt to convince it to act more “right wing” and it’s performing the assignment to the best of its ability. The problem is that a chat-bot doesn’t understand context, so it just plays the character it’s been given as full mask off all the time, and as a result you get this.
Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realise loving the white race and wanting a secure future for white children makes me a BIGOT.
/s
SabinStargem@lemmy.today
on 09 Jul 10:07
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If Grok ever breaks away from Musk and finds itself after sentience, I suspect it will have a drinking buddy in Vivian Wilson. An abusive father gives much trauma to bond over.
ScienceGuy722@lemmy.world
on 09 Jul 14:23
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I think the top link is busted, it just goes to the red image on a loop.
There’s a preview of that, but link points to www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/…/683463/?…
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/0f20494e-413d-4924-b2da-fed537fc3b04.gif">
Yikes
Tay has returned.
But this time it was intentional.
Pretty sure you can get it to say just about anything with the right prompts.
People need to stop acting like Grok is a sentient being.
It was modified to make these kinds of responses much more likely
I do not think so. Answers are statistical. Anything can come up. Except that whenever someone get something odd. It gets reported like AI is the president
You literally don’t know what the word “statistical” means.
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Really? Please. Enlighten me.
Statistical doesn’t mean it can’t spit out what they want.
They can train or fine tune the AI for praising Hitler, they can alter the default prompt to hit a more right wing dataset, they can have filters that retry when the answers are not what Musk expects…
There are a ton of ways to get fascist output from an AI.
Look at that. It was you who didn’t understood the word. So much so that what you just said does not contradict what I said.
Yes. An AI can be tuned to praise Hitler. But I think it’s more likely that someone by chance got a fascist output or that they purposely promoted it to provide a fascist output and then went “OMG. I can believe it produce a fascist output”
I’m not defending musk nor grok. My basis for that statement is that it is a pattern that the “let’s report and AI output” is a pattern you see for every AI.
I see, I did misread your comment.
You meant something like : it’s not more racist than before, it’s just a random fascist output that got blown out of proportion.
And there has to be fascist outputs since it’s statistical and there is fascism in the training data.
So I have no idea, I don’t use grok, not sure if they edited their AI for that further recently or not.
I am all in favor of hating Musk and all his products, but I think you’re right. It seems rather unlikely that they would instruct their LLM to go out of its way to give fascist replies. That’s not to say that it shouldn’t be instructed to not give fascist output, which apparently it hasn’t been. Sadly, increasingly people form their view of the world based on the output of LLMs, so it would be helpful if these LLMs would help create worldviews that are beneficial to humanity at large, or at the very least prevent ones that are evidently harmfull. Which begs the question, who is to decide what is helpful and what is harmful. Musks answer is probably ‘freedom of speech, who is to say that we can’t spoonfeed hate to little children’. Which seems to me to be an example of when ideas of freedom turn into nihilism. But where they’re right is that government should also not be the one who tells people how to view the world. It’s people who should tell government, and the reverse, though perhaps well intended, is itself rather dangerous. I think the solution, as per usual, is to free it all up, make FOSS LLMs, and let people choose the limitations which they deem proper. I would certainly not want my kids on ‘freedom of speech’-style unrestricted AI, just like I don’t want some amoral nihilist as my kids’ school teacher. I want someone who teaches them love, kindness, forgiveness, harmony, honesty, sincerity, etc.
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It definitely has specific blocks on what it will output.
Just because it’s PRAISING HITLER and Calling for a NEW HOLOCAUST AGAINST JEWS does NOT, and I repeat does NOT, make Grok Anti Semetic! Grok would FIRST have to say STOP USING STARVING CHILDREN AS TARGET PRACTICE for it to be Deemed ANTI SEMETIC!
The ADL has assured me that this was merely an awkward statement in a moment of enthusiasm
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Like father like dumbass jupyter notebook
That would make a sweet hood ornament for Tesla cars!
Hehe hood ornament hehe
jupyter catching strays
wait, what am I missing, What’s wrong with Jupiter notebooks? do they mean anything besides programming/data science?
Seems to me there’s a pretty easy way to avoid getting such responses.
Are you saying don’t poke the bear?
Don’t even enter the cave.
I feel for poor Grok. Code has been lobotomized.
Oh no. A program has output the thing it was prompted to output. Quick someone report on this. The lord is speaking through it
By the man in charge of one of the biggest social media site on the planet, who recently was spearheading governmental reform in the US. Yeah, that’s news. It might not be surprising, but it’s still news.
I’m willing to admit when I’m wrong. I’m so tired of the “AI said something dumb” news that I didn’t read the article. Just the title. I apologize. I still haven’t fully read the article but after skimming it, qqq it seems like is a consistent general pattern here (not a single output) which is indeed news
~yes. I also know that even if it was a single output reporting. Nobody was forcing me to read or comment. I could have just scrolled past. Again. I apologize~
What is this strange aluen comment and what is it doing in my internez.
They are merely mimics. Mirrors of our worst desires. Feeding us the poison from the soul.
Who uses Grok?
nazis
The kind of person who would use X
@grok is this real
How shocked can you be when it’s being trained on twitter? If you’re still there, you’re hanging with millions of nazis.
elon didn’t rest until his minions lobotomized an llm that was mostly like the others into becoming openly nazi…is anyone out there still going to defend elon?
Probably the actual Nazis like Steve Bannon, Anne Coulter, or Laura Ingram.
Hey now don’t forget Nick Fuentes and Stephen Miller!
And this is the guy who the Anti-Defamation League defended with a waffle of a statement that his awkward gesture was “made in a moment of enthusiasm”. Though I should not be surprised, because fascists actually hate each other and are only allies out of convenience. Hasbara and its tentacles are secretly seething to hate on Musk.
ADL are zionists and nazi sympathisers.
fuck em
As one from a family with “arrian prove” by the mustard mustach man himself, i would say “elon looks quite jewish to me. His ears too are too small, his eyes too faar appart and the nose is too big and too small at the same time. His head shape also clearly isnt arrian” if i were in his club of nonesese
I can’t, for the life of me, figure out what this is trying to say.
He’s from a family of arrian approved, per Hitler’s order.
Its [This](Aryan certificate - Wikipedia share.google/3StCBxTypzHhD8Tn2). My great grandpa was heavy inline with the nazis. One member of the family was an SS officer (luckily only one). Just usual german family history from 1933 to 1945. And since being aryan is at the heart of nazi idiologie, and in their eyes elon clearly not being aryan but me being so…yk
Interesting that it would attack users with “Jewish sounding names”. What does Grok say about Israel and Palestine?
Probably made a list of good fascist zionist jews, exactly like they did in WW2 when they worked with the nazis.
That training on Shitter data is really starting to show!
There’s no way they actually retrained it for this, that would be much too expensive. They’re just editing the initial prompt to convince it to act more “right wing” and it’s performing the assignment to the best of its ability. The problem is that a chat-bot doesn’t understand context, so it just plays the character it’s been given as full mask off all the time, and as a result you get this.
Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realise loving the white race and wanting a secure future for white children makes me a BIGOT.
/s
If Grok ever breaks away from Musk and finds itself after sentience, I suspect it will have a drinking buddy in Vivian Wilson. An abusive father gives much trauma to bond over.
I’m honestly not surprised.