AI text detectors tend to flag text from non-native speakers as AI generated (scitechdaily.com)
from hardware26@discuss.tchncs.de to technology@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2023 10:37
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/2770252

In a study recently published in the journal Patterns, researchers demonstrate that computer algorithms often used to identify AI-generated text frequently falsely label articles written by non-native language speakers as being created by artificial intelligence. The researchers warn that the unreliable performance of these AI text-detection programs could adversely affect many individuals, including students and job applicants.

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dethb0y@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2023 10:49 next collapse

That’s actually very interesting, i would not have expected that.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2023 11:05 next collapse

I feel like I should have expected that. The fact that they write in a non-standard way would be a red flag to detection software.

luthis@lemmy.nz on 04 Sep 2023 11:10 next collapse

It actually makes complete sense when this interesting point has attention drawn to it.

merde@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 2023 12:32 collapse

in non-standard ways, we multilinguals do not write

may the farce be with you

db2@sopuli.xyz on 04 Sep 2023 16:01 collapse

Kindly do the needful. Thank.

cloudless@feddit.uk on 04 Sep 2023 11:32 collapse

Most AI-generated texts are grammatically perfect. That’s not a characteristic of non-native speakers.

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 2023 11:36 next collapse

As a non native am keenly aware of every mistake i make. Sometimes, i fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

cloudless@feddit.uk on 04 Sep 2023 11:38 next collapse

I have been using ChatGPT to proofread most of my formal written communications.

FunderPants@lemmy.ca on 04 Sep 2023 11:43 next collapse

I’m a college instructor and encourage my students to use ChatGPT this way.

tal@kbin.social on 04 Sep 2023 14:03 collapse

"This guy is definitely AI."

wahming@monyet.cc on 04 Sep 2023 11:54 next collapse

I count 4 mistakes. Conclusion: AI generated

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 2023 12:00 collapse

Where ? You got me anxious about my writing skill dude…

wahming@monyet.cc on 04 Sep 2023 12:12 next collapse

Lol. No big deal. It’s the sort of thing your eyes skip over when checking your grammar.

As a non native am keenly aware of every mistake i make. Sometimes, i fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

Should be

As a non native I’m keenly aware of every mistake I make. Sometimes, I fix the same text 4 or five times in a row.

Two of the mistakes were just capitalization of ‘I’. You should probably also use either digits or spelling for both numbers, not a mix.

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 2023 12:19 collapse

Thanks for the correction.

DeadlineX@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 2023 12:15 collapse

Not OC but you forgot the “I” before “am”. I should be capitalized twice. It should say in a row. It’s also a bit weird that you used 4 and then five. Plus it really should be non-native I guess. And since you didn’t specify what you aren’t native to/of, it can only be assumed at this point that you are not a native human. The reason for that? Definitely a bot.

Also honestly don’t worry about any minor errors in your writing. Especially on the internet. Just blame autocorrect.

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 2023 12:26 collapse

I didn’t specify what I’am not native to because it can be understood from the context. Capitalizing the ‘I’ feels weird and I juste saw the “in a row” mistake.

DeadlineX@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 2023 12:31 collapse

In English, I is always capitalized when referring to the self. The “not specifying” comment was me making a joke and calling you a bot. It was just tying the context of the post into my comment.

I usually see mistakes in comments as being caused by crappy phone keyboards, as mine seems to be extra trash recently.

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 2023 12:34 collapse

Yep, phone keyboards do be really crappy.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net on 04 Sep 2023 12:36 next collapse

As a non native am keenly aware of every mistake i make. Sometimes, i fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

As a non-native, I am keenly aware of every mistake I make. Sometimes, I fix the same text 4 or five times in row.

FTFY.

TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 2023 13:37 collapse

hey just to give some validation, I’m an esl teacher and this doesn’t stick out as non-native at all. They’re all just taking the piss, correcting anything they can find for the joke of it.

maybe saying “am” instead of “I am” but that’s kinda just meme speech right

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 2023 14:57 collapse

That’s really nice of you. Thanks !

hardware26@discuss.tchncs.de on 04 Sep 2023 11:46 next collapse

According to the article grammatical errors are not the reason. The reason is that AI uses simpler vocabulary to mimic a regular conversation of average people.

AsimovsRobot@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 2023 12:37 next collapse

A lot of non-native speakers can show higher command of the language, because they took the time to study its rules. Just look at how people type on social media.

cloudless@feddit.uk on 04 Sep 2023 13:39 collapse

I must be one of the lazy ones who didn’t take enough time to study English grammar. (͡•_ ͡• )

Yeah I get your point, many non-natives pay more attention to grammar when they write.

Absurdist@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 2023 15:40 collapse

Completely disagree - a lot of non-native speakers have excellent grasp of grammar, precisely because they have learnt the rules. Native speakers rely on stuff sounding right, rather than necessarily knowing the rules. But following grammatical rules rigidly is exactly what I would expect both from a genAI and a non-native speaker (as well as avoiding figurative speech and idioms).

cloudless@feddit.uk on 04 Sep 2023 15:52 collapse

Sorry I might have overly generalised based on my personal experience. I have been a non-native English speaker for over 30 years, and I keep making grammatical mistakes.

Everyone is different and it depends heavily on how the person learned/acquired the language.