A fake recording of a candidate saying he’d rigged the election went viral. Experts say it’s only the beginning (edition.cnn.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 18:00
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A fake recording of a candidate saying he’d rigged the election went viral. Experts say it’s only the beginning::Days before a pivotal election in Slovakia to determine who would lead the country, a damning audio recording spread online in which one of the top candidates seemingly boasted about how he’d rigged the election.

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AndOfTheSevenSeas@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 18:12 next collapse

Not sure I needed an “expert” so inform me of that, it’s been a blatantly obvious threat with the improvement of deep fakes

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 08 Feb 2024 18:40 next collapse

How do we know it’s fake, and he’s not just claiming it’s fake? Unless I missed it the article doesn’t seem to cover that.

IMCO people claiming real recordings are AI fakes is going to be a bigger problem than actual fakes.

Arkaelus@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 19:14 next collapse

Hooo, boy, this’ll be mountains of fun!

Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 19:23 next collapse

IMCO

I’m not familiar with this one. I assume “in my concerned opinion” but I really want it to be “in my cumble opinion”

DrDeadCrash@programming.dev on 08 Feb 2024 19:37 next collapse

Caustic Outlook?

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 08 Feb 2024 21:42 next collapse

Considered.

agent_flounder@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 22:22 next collapse

Maybe “crappy?” I’m going to go with crappy.

Silentiea@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 02:05 collapse

Childish.

Cutesy

Calibrated

jaybone@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 02:19 collapse

Cumbull gives you wings.

Buelldozer@lemmy.today on 08 Feb 2024 19:44 next collapse

IMCO people claiming real recordings are AI fakes is going to be a bigger problem than actual fakes.

That’s a pretty bold claim considering we’ve already seen at least one fake impacting the US primary elections.

Gamera8ID@discuss.online on 08 Feb 2024 22:11 collapse

You might be kidding, but the answer is: The outcome plus Occam’s Razor.

a candidate saying he’d rigged the election

the candidate…was defeated

Which is more likely, that he was recorded while lying about rigging the election that he ended up losing or that the recording was faked?

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 08 Feb 2024 22:58 collapse

He could just be really bad at rigging elections!

I guess I missed that rather obvious conclusion while I was looking for some technical explanation, thanks for pointing that out.

Gamera8ID@discuss.online on 08 Feb 2024 23:30 collapse

No worries.

I do agree with you that we’re likely to see just as many (if not more) guilty politicians claiming AI fakes when they’re caught red-handed as we will see framed politicians targeted with actual AI fakes. Just not in this case.

yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca on 08 Feb 2024 18:50 next collapse

The recordings immediately went viral on social media, and the candidate, who is pro-NATO and aligned with Western interests, was defeated in September by an opponent who supported closer ties to Moscow and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Why is it always the Russian hackers? /s

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 08 Feb 2024 21:03 collapse

Because they have state actors running around following the exact same foreign policy strategy as all the other international powers. Make sure your guy is in charge, and who cares how.

Paragone@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 18:59 next collapse

We’re going to have to put “circuit-breakers” on elections, if well-timed enemy-product like that can be significant.

Same as like we have 'em on the stock-market.

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agent_flounder@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 22:23 collapse

Great now bad actors will be able to delay elections.

[deleted] on 08 Feb 2024 19:00 next collapse

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[deleted] on 08 Feb 2024 19:06 next collapse

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tsonfeir@lemm.ee on 08 Feb 2024 19:25 next collapse

Everything I am recorded doing in AI generated. It’s up to the courts to prove that isn’t correct. Time to go remove some billionaires and rob some banks.

redcalcium@lemmy.institute on 08 Feb 2024 19:43 next collapse

I’m sure commercial generative AI companies would be required to embed invisible/inaudible watermark in the generated contents soon, similar with how spotify and apple music watermarking songs in their streaming platform.

General_Effort@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 20:37 next collapse

Dangerous approach.

Bad actors will not watermark their output, or remove the watermark. All watermarking does is lend credibility to misinformation. It’s literally worse than nothing.

redcalcium@lemmy.institute on 08 Feb 2024 20:48 collapse

It won’t stop bad actors, but it’ll allow AI companies to cover their asses to avoid being blamed for misuse of their tech, which is one of the reason I think most AI companies will use it soon.

General_Effort@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 10:32 collapse

I’m sure you’re right on that. I think it’s already done.

[deleted] on 09 Feb 2024 00:34 next collapse

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brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 09 Feb 2024 00:34 collapse

Doesn’t look like Spotify or Apple watermark music, although that author used them as a hypothetical example.

Universal Music Group used to but moved away from the practice, it seems.

illi@lemm.ee on 08 Feb 2024 22:19 next collapse

Anybody could copypaste the article here? Would love to read it but apparently the site has issues with me using Firefox…

GeneralVincent@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 23:20 next collapse

Days before a pivotal election in Slovakia to determine who would lead the country, a damning audio recording spread online in which one of the top candidates seemingly boasted about how he’d rigged the election.

And if that wasn’t bad enough, his voice could be heard on another recording talking about raising the cost of beer.

The recordings immediately went viral on social media, and the candidate, who is pro-NATO and aligned with Western interests, was defeated in September by an opponent who supported closer ties to Moscow and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

While the number of votes swayed by the leaked audio remains uncertain, two things are now abundantly clear: The recordings were fake, created using artificial intelligence; and US officials see the episode in Europe as a frightening harbinger of the sort of interference the United States will likely experience during the 2024 presidential election.

“As a nation, we are woefully underprepared,” said V.S. Subrahmanian, a Northwestern University professor who focuses on the intersection of AI and security.

Senior national security officials in the US have been gearing up for “deepfakes” to inject confusion among voters in a way not previously seen, a senior US official familiar with the issue told CNN. That preparation has involved contingency planning for a foreign government potentially using AI to interfere in the election.

State and federal authorities are also grappling with increased urgency to pass legislation and train election workers to respond to deepfakes, but limited resources within elections offices and inconsistent policies have led some experts to argue that the US is not equipped for the magnitude of the challenge, a CNN review found.

Already, the US has seen AI-generated disinformation in action.

In New Hampshire, a fake version of President Joe Biden’s voice was featured in robocalls that sought to discourage Democrats from participating in the primary. AI images that falsely depicted former President Donald Trump sitting with teenage girls on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane circulated on social media last month. A deepfake posted on Twitter last February portrayed a leading Democratic candidate for mayor of Chicago as indifferent toward police shootings.

Various forms of disinformation can shape public opinion, as evidenced by the widely held false belief that Trump won the 2020 election. But generative AI amplifies that threat by enabling anyone to cheaply create realistic-looking content that can rapidly spread online.

Political operatives and pranksters can pull off attacks just as easily as Russia, China or other nation state actors. Researchers in Slovakia have speculated that the vote-rigging deepfake their country faced was the work of the Russian government.

“I can imagine scenarios where nation state adversaries record deepfake audios that are disseminated using both social media as well as messaging services to drum up support for candidates they like and spread malicious rumors about candidates they don’t like,” said Subrahmanian, the Northwestern professor.

The FBI or Department of Homeland Security can move more swiftly to speak out publicly against a threat if they know that a foreign actor is behind a deepfake, said a senior US official familiar with the issue. But if an American citizen could be behind a deepfake, US national security officials would be more reluctant to counter it publicly out of fear of giving the impression that they are influencing the election or restricting speech, the official said.

And once a deepfake appears on social media, it can be nearly impossible to stop its spread.

“The concern is that there’s going to be a deepfake of a secretary of state who says something about the results, who says something about the polling, and you can’t tell the difference,” said the official, who was not authorized to speak to the press.

Efforts to regulate deepfakes and guard against their effects vary greatly among US states.

Some states including California, Michigan, Minnesota, Texas and Washington have passed laws that regulate deepfakes in elections. Minnesota’s law, for example, makes it a crime for someone to knowingly disseminate a deepfake intended to harm a candidate within 90 days of an election. Michigan’s laws require campaigns to disclose AI-manipulated media, among other mandates. More than two dozen other states have such legislation pending, according to a review by Public Citizen, a nonprofit consumer advocacy group.

CNN asked election officials in all 50 states about efforts to counter deepfakes. Out of 33 that responded, most described existing programs in their states to respond to general misinformation or cyber threats. Less than half of those states, however, referenced specific trainings, policies or programs crafted to respond to ele

GeneralVincent@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 23:21 collapse

Ilana Beller of Public Citizen, the consumer advocacy group, expressed cautious optimism over the rate that both red- and blue-leaning states have been proposing and passing legislation on deepfakes, but she said more must be done.

“We would like to see more from the federal government, from the FEC and from many states that haven’t taken the step to regulate on this issue,” Beller said. Paul Vallas, a former mayoral candidate for Chicago, was the subject of a deepfake recording that characterized him as indifferent to police shootings. Paul Vallas, a former mayoral candidate for Chicago, was the subject of a deepfake recording that characterized him as indifferent to police shootings.

Some US candidates have been forced to personally figure out how to respond to deepfakes.

Paul Vallas, for example, ran for mayor of Chicago as a moderate Democrat last year and was targeted by an audio clip posted on X, formerly known as Twitter, by a mysterious account called “Chicago Lakefront News.”

“These days people will accuse a cop of being bad if they kill one person that was running away. Back in my day, cops would kill, say, 17 or 18 civilians in their career and nobody would bat an eye,” said the voice in the post that sounded nearly identical to Vallas. “We need to stop defunding the police and start refunding them.”

Vallas’ campaign responded by issuing a statement that denounced the video as fake and deceptive. But by then, it had been viewed thousands of times before being deleted. While Vallas won the first round of voting, he ultimately lost the election in a runoff to a progressive candidate, Brandon Johnson.

Asked if he thinks the deepfake cost him the race, Vallas said, “No, you know, I think it was a factor in a close election.”

“We’ll never know who actually created the video, but clearly there was a campaign on multiple fronts to try to misrepresent my record and to try to characterize my candidacy as something that it was not,” he added. “There’s some damage that’s not repairable, so in a close race something like that can be a factor.”

Michal Šimečka, the leader of the Progressive Slovakia party, understands why some people could have been fooled by the deepfake that falsely purported to capture him discussing with a journalist a plan to manipulate votes at polling stations.

“It does sound like me,” Šimečka told CNN, referring to the audio, which he said played into conspiracy theories that a segment of the population already believed.

The fake audio emerged on the barely regulated messaging app Telegram two days before Slovakia’s parliamentary elections and quickly jumped to TikTok, YouTube and Facebook.

Šimečka said his team and others complained to social media platforms and law enforcement. Despite some platforms removing or slapping factcheck warnings on some posts containing the audio, it continued to spread.

Šimečka said there’s no way to know whether the deepfake altered the outcome of the election, which his party lost to a more Russia-friendly party, but said, “It probably had some effect.”

Daniel Milo, who until December ran a center within Slovakia’s Ministry of Interior setup to counter disinformation, said the debacle showed the way in which some major social media platforms lack processes to effectively respond to deepfakes.

TikTok and YouTube outright deleted copies of the deepfake, he said, while Facebook deleted some, marked others as false but did not touch others. He estimates hundreds of thousands of people saw posts containing the audio. President Joe Biden, who just announced his reelection campaign for president, delivers remarks at North America’s Building Trades Unions Legislative Conference at the Washington Hilton in Washington, DC, on Tuesday.

He said social media platforms need to “put measures in place” to prevent attempts to meddle with an election.

A spokesperson for Meta, Facebook’s parent company, said in a statement, “Our independent fact-checking network reviews and rates misinformation—including content that’s AI-generated— and we label it and down-rank it in feed so fewer people see it.” While the statement said content that violates company policies is removed, it did not address why some posts containing the Slovak deepfake were not marked as false.

While the original source of the vote-rigging deepfake has not been confirmed, Milo said that some of the earliest posts containing the audio came from pro-Russian politicians in Slovakia. He believes it’s not a coincidence that Russia’s government publicly pushed a similar conspiracy theory on the same day the deepfake emerged.

“In my professional capacity, I do believe that this deepfake was part of a wider influence campaign by Russia to interfere in the Slovak elections,” Milo said.

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illi@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 06:44 collapse

Thank you!

kzhe@lemmy.zip on 09 Feb 2024 03:25 collapse

Have no issues with Firefox and uBO on Android, idk about desktop

agent_flounder@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 22:34 next collapse

Fundamentally we as a species have lost the use of face and voice in a video to establish authenticity.

A person can spoof an email, and we have cryptographic signatures as a means of authentication.

So if I record myself saying something I could sign the video I guess (implementation TBD lol).

But what if someone else (news agency say) takes a video of someone else, how do we authenticate that?

If it’s a news agency they could sign it. Great.

But then we have the problem of incentives, too. Does the benefit of a fake outweigh the detrimental effects for said news agency?

The most damage would be to the person being videoed (reputation, loss of election, whatever). There would be less damage to the media company (“oops so sorry please stay subscribed”). You could add fines but corporate oversight is weak. And the benefit of releasing a fake would be clicks and money so a news company would be a lot more likely to pass along a fake as real.

So I guess I have no idea what we do. At the moment we are fucked. Yay.

SomethingBurger@jlai.lu on 09 Feb 2024 11:27 next collapse

Vocal chord implants which sign whatever you’re saying and emit the signature with ultrasound.

CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml on 09 Feb 2024 18:00 collapse

If it’s a news agency they could sign it. Great.

But then it hinders the denouncing of police violence, whistleblowing, and allows corporations to sign their claims while what regular people record will be assumed to be false

Edit: reporting can also be done as a second hand account, reposting videos/photos already in circulation, meaning that either a news company will sign those second hand recordings at the risk of validating AI content, or only their own corporate recordings will be used.

No one wins in any case

Alenalda@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 23:03 next collapse

When I was growing up I was told to never trust anything I saw on the Internet.

Snowpix@lemmy.ca on 08 Feb 2024 23:17 next collapse

You think people would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

jaybone@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 02:21 collapse

And why should I believe this?

Cossty@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 04:47 collapse

I voted for him and I didnt know about this ai audio. Primary social media in Slovakia is FB and I stopped using that like 8 years ago, that’s probably why.

Kbobabob@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 11:07 collapse

FB is cancer, and I’m not sure how it will ever actually disappear.