I have two sets of clothing I have specifically for protesting in simply because my normal attire would definitely single me out and make me easy to identify.
I take my dog for a walk in my neighborhood and walk by no less than 10 different camera setups, and those are the ones I actually notice. Paranoia has led us down the road to a post-privacy society.
Lol ya and all that video footage is owned by the company of those cameras, like Ring aka Amazon. They can access it at anytime and they can even give it to the police.
Edit: there are setups in which you can store your footage on your own drives. However, many people don’t know how to set it up so they use out of the box camera + app which stores all the data on the company servers.
And Amazon definitely hasn’t ever provided police with any unrestricted access to whatever footage they want!
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Mar 14:44
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I’ve been thinking of getting a camera setup, but all the popular stuff is cloud crap, and the best options seem to be Chinese crap that I wouldn’t trust on my network, so I’ll need a separate network for them.
It’s a pain! Why can’t I just get the popular hardware and just disable the stuff I don’t want?
It’s frustrating that nearly everything is either a security risk, a privacy risk, or a vendor lock-i, and often all three.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 22 Mar 20:44
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Look into ubiquiti stuff. Keep in mind it’s prosumer/near enterprise equipment though, so has a higher cost associated with it.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Mar 20:45
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Thanks for the tip. I have an AP from them, and it works really well. Guess I’ll have to look at the rest of their product stack.
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 01:27
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That’s how they got Luigi. They protect and serve the rich ass only.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
on 20 Mar 22:39
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Good biking weather lately.
RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 03:53
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The irony of being asked to sign up to a website to be able to read an article about opsec failures
magiccupcake@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 04:29
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These people got caught because someone found their car and thus license plate.
Another had left a fingerprinted bottle that went missing when watching surveillance footage.
And then were able to confirm after finding the same outfit from the surveillance footage.
The lessons to be learned are to not use cars anywhere near the scene, leave no trace, fingerprints or digital evidence, including a phone, and make sure any recognizable clothing is well hidden, or even better thoroughly destroyed.
Oh and don’t post anything on social media.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 21 Mar 07:11
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Taking your own car, leaving a bottle with prints at the scene and keeping the clothes worn during the act is just laughably stupid mistakes. I mean, come on guys, have you never watched a detective show!?
Kinda /s, but also not because damn those are stupid, borderline hilarious, mistakes.
The vine diagram between competent and willing to do vandalism is not a large one.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Mar 14:26
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Agreed. I think I could get away with quite a bit, but I’m unwilling to do it. Not because I’m a coward (I am though), but because I find it immoral. But I’m willing to help give tips for those who are “intellectually curious.”
Yeah, pretty basic opsec is not to drive to the crime scene. And don’t bring anything with you that is not essential to the mission and which might get dropped and be used as evidence.
Wear cheap sweats and a ski mask. Dispose of them all as soon as you can. If cars are involved, use fake plates. Better yet, use bicycles and ride as much as possible off paved roads. And don’t ride straight home.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk
on 21 Mar 12:50
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Oh, and the basic - don’t carry your cell phone/smart watch regardless of whether it’s switched off
nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
on 21 Mar 20:48
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if your travel with burner and normal phone for one hour, both switched on, cell tower registrations are in sync and both are easily linked. if your switch on your burner only occasionally at random locations, but your real phone is/was there at the same time they are linkable.
to use a burner:
never switch on at home
leave main phone at home, switched on
travel a reasonable distance before switching the burner on
don’t travel with people who know you and who carry a phone
sim & phone mustn’t be bought/topped-up in a traceable way
cover cameras at all times (there are 0click exploits available to three letter agencies)
don’t travel in a traceable way
it’s possible, but certainly not trivial.
also: depends on the power of your adversary, as always the personal threat model is relevant. using a burner to cheat on your spouse is not the same as using one when plotting to steal the nuclear codes.
Appreciate you elaborating, but if you wouldn’t mind doing so a little more…. lol
How does one “travel in a not traceable way”?
nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
on 21 Mar 22:26
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I mean… like everything this comes in many levels… go on the main road with your car, cameras will catch you. sign in with your public transport card when boarding the bus… these are obvious. use a cab, pay cash. ride a bike, change cities, change states, change countreis… depends on your threat model I guess :D
One thing: Turn off your phone’s WiFi and Bluetooth when travelling.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Mar 14:22
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And you can get a cheap used bike as well.
I’m not condoning crime, but if you’re going to do it, give yourself the best chance of avoiding capture.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 22 Mar 02:09
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Even better, wear loose generic clothes like a long black skirt and a baggy long sleeve shirt.
Investigators can narrow down suspects by using security footage to measure things like femur or forearm length. Baggy clothes make this much harder to do, because you can’t see exactly where the joints are. It introduces a lot of reasonable doubt that your defense lawyer can use to tear apart any video evidence they present.
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With the current state of things, I expect no less than a public hanging in front of the Capitol building.
I hate how much effort is put into property damage but when my house was broken into or when my friends truck was stolen, the police did nothing.
It’s also disturbing how hard it is to be anonymous. Crime or not, it gives me the creeps that anyone could probably track me down if they wanted.
Don’t think the feds were looking in into either of those things. Musk has a direct FBI line as a homescreen icon.
I have two sets of clothing I have specifically for protesting in simply because my normal attire would definitely single me out and make me easy to identify.
Buy donation clothing. And by that I mean, buy protest clothing that you can easily take off and donate to a homeless person.
I take my dog for a walk in my neighborhood and walk by no less than 10 different camera setups, and those are the ones I actually notice. Paranoia has led us down the road to a post-privacy society.
Lol ya and all that video footage is owned by the company of those cameras, like Ring aka Amazon. They can access it at anytime and they can even give it to the police.
Edit: there are setups in which you can store your footage on your own drives. However, many people don’t know how to set it up so they use out of the box camera + app which stores all the data on the company servers.
And Amazon definitely hasn’t ever provided police with any unrestricted access to whatever footage they want!
I’ve been thinking of getting a camera setup, but all the popular stuff is cloud crap, and the best options seem to be Chinese crap that I wouldn’t trust on my network, so I’ll need a separate network for them.
It’s a pain! Why can’t I just get the popular hardware and just disable the stuff I don’t want?
It’s frustrating that nearly everything is either a security risk, a privacy risk, or a vendor lock-i, and often all three.
Look into ubiquiti stuff. Keep in mind it’s prosumer/near enterprise equipment though, so has a higher cost associated with it.
Thanks for the tip. I have an AP from them, and it works really well. Guess I’ll have to look at the rest of their product stack.
That’s how they got Luigi. They protect and serve the rich ass only.
Pretty sure that was supposed to say class, but it still works with the typo
The police are here to protect the owner class.
Class traitors
Good biking weather lately.
The irony of being asked to sign up to a website to be able to read an article about opsec failures
These people got caught because someone found their car and thus license plate.
Another had left a fingerprinted bottle that went missing when watching surveillance footage.
And then were able to confirm after finding the same outfit from the surveillance footage.
The lessons to be learned are to not use cars anywhere near the scene, leave no trace, fingerprints or digital evidence, including a phone, and make sure any recognizable clothing is well hidden, or even better thoroughly destroyed.
Oh and don’t post anything on social media.
Taking your own car, leaving a bottle with prints at the scene and keeping the clothes worn during the act is just laughably stupid mistakes. I mean, come on guys, have you never watched a detective show!?
Kinda /s, but also not because damn those are stupid, borderline hilarious, mistakes.
The vine diagram between competent and willing to do vandalism is not a large one.
Agreed. I think I could get away with quite a bit, but I’m unwilling to do it. Not because I’m a coward (I am though), but because I find it immoral. But I’m willing to help give tips for those who are “intellectually curious.”
Yeah, pretty basic opsec is not to drive to the crime scene. And don’t bring anything with you that is not essential to the mission and which might get dropped and be used as evidence.
Wear cheap sweats and a ski mask. Dispose of them all as soon as you can. If cars are involved, use fake plates. Better yet, use bicycles and ride as much as possible off paved roads. And don’t ride straight home.
Oh, and the basic - don’t carry your cell phone/smart watch regardless of whether it’s switched off
Burner phone!
Burn the Tesla with the phone, gotcha
it’s rather easy to link a burner phone to you if you don’t know exactly what you are doing. no need for a phone, don’t take any risk.
Could you provide examples?
if your travel with burner and normal phone for one hour, both switched on, cell tower registrations are in sync and both are easily linked. if your switch on your burner only occasionally at random locations, but your real phone is/was there at the same time they are linkable.
to use a burner:
it’s possible, but certainly not trivial.
also: depends on the power of your adversary, as always the personal threat model is relevant. using a burner to cheat on your spouse is not the same as using one when plotting to steal the nuclear codes.
Appreciate you elaborating, but if you wouldn’t mind doing so a little more…. lol
How does one “travel in a not traceable way”?
I mean… like everything this comes in many levels… go on the main road with your car, cameras will catch you. sign in with your public transport card when boarding the bus… these are obvious. use a cab, pay cash. ride a bike, change cities, change states, change countreis… depends on your threat model I guess :D
One thing: Turn off your phone’s WiFi and Bluetooth when travelling.
And you can get a cheap used bike as well.
I’m not condoning crime, but if you’re going to do it, give yourself the best chance of avoiding capture.
Even better, wear loose generic clothes like a long black skirt and a baggy long sleeve shirt.
Investigators can narrow down suspects by using security footage to measure things like femur or forearm length. Baggy clothes make this much harder to do, because you can’t see exactly where the joints are. It introduces a lot of reasonable doubt that your defense lawyer can use to tear apart any video evidence they present.