The first neuralink patient, on the other hand, could only drool and void.
nxdefiant@startrek.website
on 23 Feb 2024 22:32
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FULL SELF DEFECATING
(I’m sorry, but that fruit was hanging lower than Musk’s credibility.)
JaymesRS@literature.cafe
on 23 Feb 2024 21:21
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I can too. I put my hand on the input device and the signals my brain sends translates that into the movement of the mouse to a specific location on the screen.
ArtVandelay@lemmy.world
on 23 Feb 2024 23:21
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Not to brag or anything, but I actually upvoted this comment using nothing but my brain waves attached to an input device
BruceTwarzen@kbin.social
on 24 Feb 2024 00:00
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I just used my nose.
cuppaconcrete@aussie.zone
on 24 Feb 2024 13:40
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Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 18:55
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This is something that has been possible for a decade or two with our invasive brain surgery. Just using a modified EEG. This is not a revolution it is old technology with the added risk of brain surgery.
The old stuff I saw around twenty years ago that was actually good was pretty invasive. I think I saw research on Duke doing this with monkeys around 2004 or so. Also I didn’t say it was revolutionary, I’m rejecting the belittling of any advances in technology just because I have the ability to click a mouse with my fully able body.
Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 20:52
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So there are a number of Brain-Computer Interfaces with different degrees of invasiveness. The technology exists already to move a mouse with non invasive BIC devices. When you consider both the complications of invasive surgery and implantation of medical devices from startups, which may not exist to provide long term support for their technology. Combined with the long history of Elon Musk and his companies taking short cuts and failing to do due diligence before bringing a product to market. Makes this seem reckless at best.
I have nothing against advancing technology, but we can do all of this without endangering people. In this case people who are more vulnerable because of disability. I am not against or dismissive of BIC technology. I am very concerned about Elon Musk and how he will cut corners. He could set back research and cause much more harm then good.
Here is an article about how using start up culture in the bio medical world can effect the disabled when there tech is no longer supported.
The end goal isn’t just to create a brain-controlled mouse. When I’m talking about criticizing advancements because of what they can currently do this is part of my problem. Technology in this vein could be the precursor to mechanically regaining the ability to use your own limbs. People equate justifiably disliking Elon and specific issues with Neuralink to deriding technology in general.
Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 22:40
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Did you read my comment? I specifically said I was not against BIC. I did specifically say that I felt Elon Musk could set research back by being sloppy.
Just to be clear what Elon musk announced was not an advancement in the space of BIC. He is touting a pre-existing technology as an advancement. This from a company that has serious allegations raised about its scientific ethics. Elon has shown before that he doesn’t have a high level of concern and has repeatedly downplayed or suppressed negative information about his companies. There is no reason to believe he will not do the same at Neurolink. I think that anyone who hopes to see the advancement of BIC and the radical improvement to the quality of life for many disabled people it could bring. Should be very concerned about Elon’s role in space.
Just to be clear what Elon musk announced was not an advancement in the space of BIC. He is touting a pre-existing technology as an advancement.
Yeah. He said they were controlling a mouse. it’s an advancement for his team, not for BCIs in general. I saw the video. He didn’t even sound that excited about it.
Should be very concerned about Elon’s role in [this] space.
This is the part I agree with, but it’s not where the criticism and jokes in this thread were directed even though he’s the biggest reason why people don’t like Neuralink.
Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
on 25 Feb 2024 00:05
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Sorry about the typos, it has been a long day. Though I am concerned about Elon in space too.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world
on 23 Feb 2024 21:31
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Can this ability be disabled remotely, if the patient doesn’t pay whatever subscription fee is attached?
TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
on 23 Feb 2024 21:55
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Excellent question!
There is no fee, but you may black out only to awaken surrounded by the bodies of political and personal enemies of Elmo. Its called Super Happy Fun Mode.
NounsAndWords@lemmy.world
on 23 Feb 2024 22:28
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If it doesn’t continue to receive software updates/support I would almost hope it can be disabled. Like what happened with that bionic eye company recently.
n3cr0@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 12:03
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Subscription fees? They can stream advertisements right into the brain. Best when sleeping.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world
on 25 Feb 2024 03:13
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Hello, and thank you for your interest in our product!
To reduce the go-to-market time, our engineering team focused on the core product first. This means we don’t have a way to remotely disable the implant itself. But don’t worry about incurring additional costs - we have specialized teams to disable the patient while our engineers are hard at work implementing this much-requested feature.
Best regards,
Neuralink support
themurphy@lemmy.world
on 23 Feb 2024 22:58
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NineMileTower@lemmy.world
on 23 Feb 2024 23:26
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Elon Musk tells lies because he’s an ugly man baby
cuppaconcrete@aussie.zone
on 24 Feb 2024 13:41
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Are you negging him cos you want him to be your man baby?
NineMileTower@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 15:51
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Yeah I want him to suckle my teat
Kolanaki@yiffit.net
on 23 Feb 2024 23:43
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I can do that with a cheap piece of shit novelty toy I got in high school and it doesn’t have to be surgically installed into my brain; it’s just a hat.
prime_number_314159@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 00:01
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Yeah, but then you have to limit your fashion selection! Imagine restricting yourself to wearing a hat over some silly fear of death.
FunkPhenomenon@lemmy.zip
on 24 Feb 2024 00:48
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the Internet of Things is here, already?
SmurfNuts@kbin.social
on 24 Feb 2024 03:00
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Bullshit, if it's coming from Elon.
Wiitigo@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 03:54
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Nuh uh, I’m pretty sure he said ‘mouse’, not cursor. So, that could mean two things.
eran_morad@lemmy.world
on 24 Feb 2024 15:36
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Cool story bro
IggyTheSmidge@kbin.social
on 24 Feb 2024 15:39
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"...unfortunately, they can no longer move anything else."
TheFriar@lemm.ee
on 25 Feb 2024 02:53
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…hooray?
GladiusB@lemmy.world
on 25 Feb 2024 03:31
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When I click my mouse my finger is connected to my mind too.
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The first neuralink patient, on the other hand, could only drool and void.
FULL SELF DEFECATING
(I’m sorry, but that fruit was hanging lower than Musk’s credibility.)
I can too. I put my hand on the input device and the signals my brain sends translates that into the movement of the mouse to a specific location on the screen.
Not to brag or anything, but I actually upvoted this comment using nothing but my brain waves attached to an input device
I just used my nose.
And my axe!
Yeah, but you’re probably not a quadriplegic or have ALS.
wtnh.com/…/ap-elon-musk-says-the-first-human-has-…
This is something that has been possible for a decade or two with our invasive brain surgery. Just using a modified EEG. This is not a revolution it is old technology with the added risk of brain surgery.
The old stuff I saw around twenty years ago that was actually good was pretty invasive. I think I saw research on Duke doing this with monkeys around 2004 or so. Also I didn’t say it was revolutionary, I’m rejecting the belittling of any advances in technology just because I have the ability to click a mouse with my fully able body.
So there are a number of Brain-Computer Interfaces with different degrees of invasiveness. The technology exists already to move a mouse with non invasive BIC devices. When you consider both the complications of invasive surgery and implantation of medical devices from startups, which may not exist to provide long term support for their technology. Combined with the long history of Elon Musk and his companies taking short cuts and failing to do due diligence before bringing a product to market. Makes this seem reckless at best.
I have nothing against advancing technology, but we can do all of this without endangering people. In this case people who are more vulnerable because of disability. I am not against or dismissive of BIC technology. I am very concerned about Elon Musk and how he will cut corners. He could set back research and cause much more harm then good.
Here is an article about how using start up culture in the bio medical world can effect the disabled when there tech is no longer supported.
spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete
The end goal isn’t just to create a brain-controlled mouse. When I’m talking about criticizing advancements because of what they can currently do this is part of my problem. Technology in this vein could be the precursor to mechanically regaining the ability to use your own limbs. People equate justifiably disliking Elon and specific issues with Neuralink to deriding technology in general.
Did you read my comment? I specifically said I was not against BIC. I did specifically say that I felt Elon Musk could set research back by being sloppy.
Just to be clear what Elon musk announced was not an advancement in the space of BIC. He is touting a pre-existing technology as an advancement. This from a company that has serious allegations raised about its scientific ethics. Elon has shown before that he doesn’t have a high level of concern and has repeatedly downplayed or suppressed negative information about his companies. There is no reason to believe he will not do the same at Neurolink. I think that anyone who hopes to see the advancement of BIC and the radical improvement to the quality of life for many disabled people it could bring. Should be very concerned about Elon’s role in space.
Yeah
Yeah. He said they were controlling a mouse. it’s an advancement for his team, not for BCIs in general. I saw the video. He didn’t even sound that excited about it.
This is the part I agree with, but it’s not where the criticism and jokes in this thread were directed even though he’s the biggest reason why people don’t like Neuralink.
Sorry about the typos, it has been a long day. Though I am concerned about Elon in space too.
Can this ability be disabled remotely, if the patient doesn’t pay whatever subscription fee is attached?
Excellent question!
There is no fee, but you may black out only to awaken surrounded by the bodies of political and personal enemies of Elmo. Its called Super Happy Fun Mode.
With stuff in your butt
You forgot the little details
If it doesn’t continue to receive software updates/support I would almost hope it can be disabled. Like what happened with that bionic eye company recently.
Subscription fees? They can stream advertisements right into the brain. Best when sleeping.
Hello, and thank you for your interest in our product!
To reduce the go-to-market time, our engineering team focused on the core product first. This means we don’t have a way to remotely disable the implant itself. But don’t worry about incurring additional costs - we have specialized teams to disable the patient while our engineers are hard at work implementing this much-requested feature.
Best regards,
Neuralink support
Show it then.
You have to sign up for his onlyfans to see.
Elon Musk tells lies because he’s an ugly man baby
Are you negging him cos you want him to be your man baby?
Yeah I want him to suckle my teat
I can do that with a cheap piece of shit novelty toy I got in high school and it doesn’t have to be surgically installed into my brain; it’s just a hat.
Yeah, but then you have to limit your fashion selection! Imagine restricting yourself to wearing a hat over some silly fear of death.
the Internet of Things is here, already?
Bullshit, if it's coming from Elon.
Nuh uh, I’m pretty sure he said ‘mouse’, not cursor. So, that could mean two things.
Cool story bro
"...unfortunately, they can no longer move anything else."
…hooray?
When I click my mouse my finger is connected to my mind too.