At first, the air of mystery suggested hidden depths, but increasing exposure revealed that it was all just woven from thin air and would routinely come out with increasingly absurd stories that contradicted previous statements.
Wait are you talking about the reboot they did in like 2015ish? The were-monster episode and the Mandela effect guy were like the funniest shit ever.
I literally fell out of my chair onto my living room floor laughing at that shit. If you were a fan of the original show I must recommend at least watching those two episodes.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 26 Nov 2024 17:37
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Okay alright you got me there
phoneymouse@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 05:26
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Now do this to Tesla. Make owning a Tesla make you a pariah.
latenightnoir@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 07:03
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Decent first step with the Cybertruck. Though he botched it and instead of making owners pariahs, they turn owners into clowns and lacerated patients.
ripcord@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 07:44
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There are a ton around me. Every time I pass one I pay close attention to the body. Many times, it looks to me like the body panels just donāt line up. They kind of look like shit TBH.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 27 Nov 11:12
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Yeah, Iāve ridden in a few and the build quality issues are noticeable.
They have some features I like, especially the door handles. Those are super cool. And by all means, I want more EV sales in general.
But like, comparing a Tesla to something like a Hyundai Ioniq is just night and day.
Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
on 26 Nov 2024 13:59
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I already peg Tesla drivers next to Altimas and Ram 2500s, just different energy
Tesla is for the people who donāt want to drive a car, and their driving aptitude is frequently on full display
Altimas and Ram needs no further explanation, you already know
Gotta get one of the āI bought this before we knew Elon was an assholeā bumper stickers.
Obviously only works on a car that came out before we knew Elon was an asshole
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Nov 2024 15:01
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Thereās a guy in Hawaii selling āI bought this before I knew Elon was crazyā bumper stickers for $10, and heās already sold over 10,000 this year.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2024 02:49
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Good, Iām glad for him. With the upcoming tariffs/trade war coming our way, I can only imagine how much higher the cost of living in Hawaii is about to get.
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br
on 27 Nov 17:44
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Thatās part of the joy, he bought the plot and still managed to lose the plot so quickly itās easy to argue he never had it to begin with.
He paid billions to play himself.
MutilationWave@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 12:48
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He paid billions (largely of other peopleās money) to influence the US election and world politics. He succeeded. He won.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 26 Nov 2024 16:29
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Not to mention Iām sure his tax cuts and deregulations will offset loses for buying X. Throw in gutting NASA, he opens more contracts for his companies. He will end up making money for sure.
He could do absolutely nothing but sit on the beach for the rest of his life and heād be making more money off interest than we make in a lifetime
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 27 Nov 14:06
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Assuming he lives to 88. And gets only 5% interest on his current money. Interest puts him over 1 trillion easy (around 1.8t) So assuming there are 450,000 users on Lemmy and we all make 3,000,000 dollars in our total livesā¦ Yeah he will make about 1.5 times what me all make.
Sidenote: average stock market growth over 10 years has been around 11% I saw. So that would put his worth around 8.9 trillion in 35 years of just sitting on investments.
Great number choice haha. The fascists love the number 88!
It really goes to show how fucking nuts these billionaires are. They could fucking relax for the rest of their lives in luxury but thatās not enough for them.
Money is just a symbol for power. Thereās never enough for these ghouls.
I disagree that him owning Twitter causes Trump to win. I have not heard any credible source make this claim. This sounds like 4D chess nonsense. He clearly did not want to own Twitter and didnāt know what to do with it either once he did and still had no clue how to use it.
Whatever responsibility can be placed on Twitter it would be them deplatforming him, allowing voters to forget how insane he is. This occurred prior to his purchase.
Rather than attempting to lay the blame for trumps second election on platforms, we need to come to terms with accepting that this is the direction that the majority of Americanās wanted. This includes those who did not vote, since their apathy allowed Trump to win.
A plurality of Americans are very very dumb. The entire world knows this. We pretend they just donāt get us, know us, etc but we cannot ignore the reality exposed by these election outcomes.
MutilationWave@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 20:56
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Oh I donāt think it was a major reason. He may have regretted it at first but that may have been bullshit. Now heās one of the most powerful people in the world, politically, until Trump turns on him.
I donāt think it can be proven, just like bezos owning the Washington post canāt be proven to sway things.
A bunch of billionaires owning consolidated media, what could go wrong?!
Trust me. Whether we can prove it or not, the whole purpose of buying Twitter was to kneecap the āleftā in organizing (sorry but most are actually liberals, especially the PMC echo chamber that was Twitter and is now becoming Bluesky), push nazi content, and sway the election. Supposedly heās going after the UK election too but Iāll be honest I havenāt been paying attention to that. A whole bunch of major democracies had elections this year. He swayed the most important one.
Thatās an expensive way to sway an election. If thatās the case, critical thinking abilities of the average Xitter user is pretty fucking low. Breaking News: Shepherd Herds Sheep.
The average Twitter user is a bot letās be honest.
Itās about manufacturing consent, and to musk, itās chump change. What you would spend on a pricey hobby is what heās doing at his level.
Also not just an election but society itself.
abbotsbury@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 06:34
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kek
topkek, even
MyOpinion@lemm.ee
on 26 Nov 2024 07:00
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X is done.
sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org
on 26 Nov 2024 08:16
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Oh I hope this is true.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
on 26 Nov 2024 08:24
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In the future I hope they do studies on what percentage of nazi content is necessary to destabilize a platform and get an established base of regular people and companies to flee.
To hear it told on Bluesky, itās the better blocking tools and the culture of āwe donāt have to put up with these assholes.ā
shrug
Iāve been off Twitter for years and even before that I probably posted less than a half-dozen times per year. I mostly prefer subject-based social media (here) over identity-based, but Iām looking to surround myself with people who talk about something other than politics because the last Trump presidency I just couldnāt handle the constant tide of horrors.
I just need somewhere to escape all that and if not, Iām going to be in a really mentally unhealthy place for the next four years.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Nov 2024 20:16
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If ya like scifi and whatnot may I suggest the space battles forum. Theyre pretty chill, alzo the fanfiction side is pretty bloodthirsty.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works
on 27 Nov 16:06
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subject-based social media (here) over identity-based
Thereās a good way to talk about it!
How else can we describe Lemmy? Iāll call it a āsocial news siteā but meh
I like subject vs identity because I enjoy discussing issues and I enjoy seeing familiar people in the discussions, but I donāt like being followed and following is hard for me. I might love your thoughts on Star Wars but you also post a lot of cat pictures which Iām neutral about and sports which I donāt like.
So if I follow you and see those three subjects, two posts I have to cognitively tune out. If I follow a Star Wars board, I get your thoughts and potentially two other peopleās thoughts in those same three posts.
I like that. On Bluesky (or TwX/Mastodon) I have to find people who mostly post about things I want to see. Itās hard and itās not conducive to massive follow/follower counts which is normally the measure of success.
I also find myself feeling constrained to only post things my followers are interested in, because as an individual Iām just not that fascinating. So I post less and less as my follower count goes up.
Because of all that, subject vs identity is the most natural way to divide up social media to me. Iād be happy to brainstorm other ways, though.
lurklurk@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 09:49
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I hope so, although it might serve as an easy way for companies to bribe the first lady Musk for favours with Trump
Might as well make āBiggest Donorā a cabinet position at this point
lurklurk@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 14:40
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Gold Sponsor!
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 10:00
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Yep. Fortunately for Elon (and, you know, fascism) he doesnāt need it any more. For Elon, it is already āMission Accomplishedā. The richest, most thin-skinned losers on Earth already control the biggest economy and the biggest military. What more could that shitstain hope to get out of Twitter?
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 10:18
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Well now heās calling for a new election in the UK (presumably to put the right wing bac in) so looks like heās not happy with just proxy ruling America.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 10:54
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Haha right you are. It is in his nature, I suppose, to grasp and grasp after already being the richest person in history. In a better world, we would put people like Musk in a nice, humane institution.
teft@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 12:07
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Heās not the richest in history. Modern history, sure if you count excluding inflation. But when people like Mansa Musa existed Musk has quite a ways to go. Hell even Carnegieās wealth eclipsed Musk if youāre talking purchasing power.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 14:22
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Musk has now surpassed Carnegie. You are right about Mansa Musa (for now), but the gap is closing. According to google today, Musk is at $334B, Carnegie peaked at a modest $309B, and Mansa Musa had about $400B, though there are quibbles about personal wealth vs. kingdomās treasury. If you want to compare Musk and Musa, I think you could reasonably add the GDP of the US to Muskās fortune, since he is one of the puppeteers behind Trump. All figures adjusted for inflation, by the way.
zephorah@lemm.ee
on 26 Nov 2024 14:04
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And heās dancing around Ukraine and Putin. This guy is so entitled.
Dogiedog64@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 15:33
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Well, you have to remember, heās an entitled NepoBaby manchild who grew up rich off an emerald mine in Apartheid South Africa, failed upwards into every position heās ever held after blowing shit tons of money into failing companies, claims he knows more about manufacturing than anyone else despite his products getting recalled almost weekly and openly flaunting safety standards over the color of safety gear, and just overall is a massive dweeb who shills failed crypto scams and political grifts over on the Social Media platform he spent Too Much Moneyā¢ļø on.
So yeah, of COURSE he thinks he can shadow-run 2 governments at once by funding Fascist takeovers. Heās just that stupid and entitled. And when it all blows up in his face one day, all I will do is laugh.
The fact that Elon Musk has time to shadow run GOVERNMENTS while ALSO being CEO of THREE Companies is PROOF that ceos EARN their Billions of Dollars with how much Harder they work!
capital@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 14:50
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It served its purpose.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 23:54
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Let that sink in.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 27 Nov 15:04
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radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 17:52
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This was such a compensating thing. Tried to back out of the deal, wasnāt allowed to, then made this dumbass dad joke. āI meant to do thatā vibes, fucking pathetic.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 27 Nov 22:06
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Obviously he was pulling some crazy 6D chess moves, but weāre all just dumb peasants that donāt understand what a genius Elon truly is
Lemmy is definitely not an echo chamber. As a leftist thereās a ton of liberal simp vooooooote blue no matter who bullshit, followed by blaming everyone but their shitty ass candidate and even shittier ass party for the loss.
The right wing in contrast is in unison lining up to fellate trumps little mushroom.
mehdi_benadel@lemmy.balamb.fr
on 26 Nov 2024 10:36
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You just become someone good when interacting with the good people š
eskimofry@lemm.ee
on 26 Nov 2024 11:21
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How your comment reads to the rest of us:
āWrong reason people donāt like twitter - bad
Wrong reason people like lemmy - good
You both sound the same to meā
Free_Opinions@feddit.uk
on 26 Nov 2024 12:35
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The horseshoe theory holds true in many cases. Far ends of the spectrum have more in common with eachother than they do with the people on the middle. Antisemitism is a good example of something you find in both extremes. Calls for violence is another example.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 13:43
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Antisemitism is a good example of something you find in both extremes. Calls for violence is another example.
Israel is doing genocide but the Jews are real victims of US political discourse
Free_Opinions@feddit.uk
on 26 Nov 2024 14:18
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I think bombing civilians is bad and going after people because of their religion is also bad. You donāt actually need to choose either or.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 14:22
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every time holocaust and jews are brought up in the modern context, you are making that choice.
frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe
on 26 Nov 2024 15:54
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Id assume they meant residents of the Jewish state who are on the side of the Jewish states government, not all Jews worldwideā¦but Iām just giving benefit of the doubt. Similarly I assume people saying Americans chose this or Americans support genocide mean the 51% who do.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Nov 2024 18:11
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the 51% who do
Nah, itās more like <1%. The average citizen does have a say in who our representatives are, but we donāt get to decide what choices they make. When you vote for someone, you donāt necessarily agree with everything they do, you just think the country would go in a better direction with them vs their opponents.
For example, Biden didnāt meaningfully push back on Israel, and I doubt Trump would do anything differently. So if you are super passionate about the Israel-Gaza war, you canāt vote for either, but that means throwing your vote away with a third party candidate, which has other caveats (i.e. if you have a preference on issues other than Israel-Gaza, voting third party reduces that voice). I voted third party this past election because I knew my state would vote overwhelmingly for one of the candidates (and it did, like clockwork), so my vote had more value as a protest against the terrible candidates we had instead of throwing it to either the one that would win or the runner-up.
In a democracy, things really arenāt that binary. Just because a candidate won 51% of the vote or whatever doesnāt mean 51% of the populace agrees with their policies, they just think theyāll do a better job than the main alternative. In this case, I think it largely came down to the economy, and people thought Trump would do better than Harris on that. I personally think the Presidential Puzzle (video by Ben Felix about it here) is more convincing than an actual shift in national agreement with Trump.
Unless youāre referring to anti Zionist Jews. NO.
Snapz@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 20:38
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False premiseā¦ not wanting Palestinian babies to be slaughtered en masse is not anti-Semitism. Fuck that.
There isnāt a far right and āfar leftā equivalency - one side are fascists and the other are anti fascists. Opposition of objective evil is NOT an extreme, itās a baseline position.
Quiet propaganda, like this comment, did a lot to bring our broken society to this point.
No, Iām saying youāll find antisemites on both the far left and the far right - not that everyone on the far left hates Jews. Not everyone on the far right does either.
If youāre going to argue that there are no antisemites on the far left whatsoever, then thereās nothing to discuss here.
There are people on the far left who also hate jews just as passionately as the nazies do. The fact that you canāt even aknowledge this shows that youāre not a rational thinker and thus I donāt need to waste my time with you.
What, the handful of randoms on the left that hold zero power politically or socially? The couple of weirdo loners? Whereās the evidence?!
Letās compare and contrast with the trump fueled āJews will not replace usā white nationalist march in Charlottesville ššššššššššššššššš or how about the more recent nazi march in Springfield šššššššššššš
Enlightened centrists are just right wing grifters out of touch with reality.
Snapz@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 19:04
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Have your fun here on the internet today, but just remember this āhighā when your grandkids tell you youāre not invited to Christmas one day. The people around you see the garbage you are in full color. They see the world you didnāt care to save on their behalf. Enjoy that fucking loneliness and crawl to your forums for the only illusion of validation youāll have left at that point, from a fucking bot.
Chud.
Snapz@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 19:06
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āSo reading all the comments here:ā
Already told on yourself - We all know you canāt read.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Nov 2024 20:18
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Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that āmy ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.ā
ā Isaac Asimov
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 13:45
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Trump won the election, this gereatric nepo baby will be well paid for his services
Twitters is a just a pokemon card for him and he used it well.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 15:38
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Who is the geriatric one?
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 15:53
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Both is them but based on context of the above. Comment, telsa tubby is who I was referring to
Boomers are the ones currently in the Geriatric territory.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 16:11
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Don't take it personally... But for people under 30, people above 30 are gereatric
Also genX post covid has been booming extra hard lol
dubyakay@lemmy.ca
on 26 Nov 2024 16:19
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Thatās bs. Speak for yourself only. This is not the first time I see geriatric being misused for this piece of shit.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 16:27
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Old enough to be a gereatric but with maturity of 25 yo?
Kbobabob@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 16:48
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If over 30 is considered geriatric to you and assuming 21 is graduating from child to adult, youāre telling me that in your mind that people are only normal adults for 9 years?
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 16:52
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My point being it is matter of perspective but y'all got worked up pver it...
30 maybe too low but over 50 is pretty safe bet. I don't see anything controversial with that this take.
IntrusiveThoughtsWon@lemm.ee
on 26 Nov 2024 19:33
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Bold words coming from a toddler.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 19:48
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Why so hurt?
IntrusiveThoughtsWon@lemm.ee
on 26 Nov 2024 20:07
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I just consider anyone younger than me a toddler, thatās just how I roll. Donāt blame me for being a toddler.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 20:10
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U mad tho...
IntrusiveThoughtsWon@lemm.ee
on 26 Nov 2024 21:22
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Only if you are. Are you mad?
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 17:54
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OP is unaware Loganās Run was just a shitty movie - except for that open-sided dress, of course. Renew!
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 19:52
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And itāll happen to you one day too
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 26 Nov 2024 19:57
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I am already old... WTF is u talking about.
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 20:09
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You feel better now?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 21:52
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Iām 47 and my 14-year-old daughter gets upset when I call myself an old man, so Iām not sure Iām in agreement with you.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
on 26 Nov 2024 15:52
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I wonder what thing TrumpEtAL is going to do to require people to create X accounts.
And then what thing that TrumpEtAL will do to make it so that his enemies canāt sign up and hence be in trouble with TrumpEtAL.
bitchkat@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 16:27
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bitchkat@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2024 02:22
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Guess how the suckers that want to work with Elon and Vivek have to submit resumes?
umbraroze@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 20:49
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Elon Musk before: āOh, these old Twitter executives were so dumb. When number go up, youāve gotta show it everywhere!ā
Elon Musk now: āNumber not go up? For cripes sake, donāt show it!ā
PetteriPano@lemmy.world
on 26 Nov 2024 22:10
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I never really understood twitter. Feels to me like itās all about following personalities in a poor format that doesnāt cater to discussion. Iāve had an account since early, mostly for testing twitter integrations for work. I havenāt even bothered to log in for a couple of years.
I logged in yesterday just to deactivate my account.
can@sh.itjust.works
on 27 Nov 2024 00:31
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I think it really only made sense to me when it was SMS social media.
Canāt remember which phone I had but for something like this it was neat.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 2024 02:29
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I made a Twitter account in the early days when I was a teenager. The sole reason I made it was because one of my favorite bands had an account. Their posts would be sent in an SMS to my phone, and the cool thing about that was how it felt like they were texting me personally.
I have no idea when I last logged in, let alone when I last posted. When the SMS feature was dropped, so did my interest.
It scans if you look at it like short form blogging. Even YouTube runs under about the same operating theater. The comments are there but they have to beg / trick the viewers into engaging.
Wasnāt adding engagement numbers to each tweet one of the first things he added? I remember thinking āwho the fuck wants to see that?ā But I guess to people like him that was important at the time? Huh.
radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 17:49
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Drumpf is obsessed with rally size, skuM is obsessed with twitter engagement. Rotten tomatoh, decomposing tomahto.
Yup just tried it again. Also basically anything counts as a view, scroll by the post, embedded tweet, scraper scraping the tweet. Almost every time the page is viewed by anyone or anything will bump the number even if itās repeated visit from the same viewer withing short time frame.
I guess itās kinda nice that itās simply transparent like that for admins but thatās not what users expect - itās a useless metric and very easy to inflate.
Iām tempted to fire up a dozen android emulators with a refresh loop to see how far this can be pushed but I really donāt want to have that shit platform on my mind longer than I have to tbh.
Over a million people joined Bluesky after the election and seem to be using it. Also a lot of news & media companies have moved over too. So I would assume that at least that many users have disappeared from X or their activity has diminished. On top of that all the bots have gone home now the election is over so the amount of activity must have suffered. And Bluesky is basically old Twitter so people are settling into it and liking it.
I would advise anyone who still using X to give it a try. And if they want to use X for whatever reason - uninstall the app, install Control Panel for Twitter into their mobile browser and browse that for a relatively bullshit free experience - no ads, no algorithmic lists, just what you subscribe to.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 16:30
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Iām loving it so far!!
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br
on 27 Nov 17:38
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Should I try Bluesky even if I barely have used Xitter recently?
_stranger_@lemmy.world
on 27 Nov 17:50
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Sure. Thereās not a lot of ābulk contentā trash farms yet so it feels more real than even twitter did before the enXhittification.
If you donāt use Twitter then I donāt see any reason to try Bluesky since it could basically be described as classic Twitter. But if you liked Twitter until it because a cesspit of far right shitheads, crypto bros, bots, and ads then give Bluesky a go.
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br
on 27 Nov 18:37
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No, no, I think you donāt understand. /lh
What I meant by that is that I donāt use it so often like most people do (2 hours a day or so), I mean like, opening once or twice every 1 or 2 weeks.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
on 28 Nov 10:19
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My personal suggestion? Stop using Twatter.
Whether you move on to some other microblogging platform (like Bluesky or Mastodon) or just drop it entirely is a different question and depends on what content you care about. When you do check it, what do you check it for? Would you really miss that?
If itās specific accounts or personalities you care about, you could check if they have opened alternative accounts on those other platforms and let that inform your decision. If itās topics, I donāt know enough about Blueskyās userbase to recommend it, but I know Mastodonās @FediFollows@social.growyourown.services has a bunch of topic-oriented curated lists.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 27 Nov 18:13
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musk copies feature from zuckerberg backed competitor, threads.
threaded - newest
This just in, lying piece of shit liar lies about something again. š
I feel like youāre trying to imply something hereā¦
LOLā¦ is he hiding cause of an exodus, or because of the bot farm he ran for the elections?
ĀæPor quĆ© no ambos?
Release the X files, Elon.
I used to like that show :(
At first, the air of mystery suggested hidden depths, but increasing exposure revealed that it was all just woven from thin air and would routinely come out with increasingly absurd stories that contradicted previous statements.
Also, the X-Files.
I want to believe.
We donāt talk about the fox reboot seasons. That didnāt happen
Wait are you talking about the reboot they did in like 2015ish? The were-monster episode and the Mandela effect guy were like the funniest shit ever.
I literally fell out of my chair onto my living room floor laughing at that shit. If you were a fan of the original show I must recommend at least watching those two episodes.
Okay alright you got me there
Now do this to Tesla. Make owning a Tesla make you a pariah.
Decent first step with the Cybertruck. Though he botched it and instead of making owners pariahs, they turn owners into clowns and lacerated patients.
It already does.
Sorry to people that havenāt sold theirs yet.
They havenāt even been out a year. Their user agreement stipulates they canāt resell them yet
Iām fairly certain there are teslas older than a year.
Oh my mistake, I thought this was the comment thread mentioning the truck. Yeah, Iām with you
Good point about the insane āuser agreementā though
Where I live thereās not many teslas.
But I saw one the other day and it was squeaking like a cheap plastic toy.
I wasnāt going to buy one. But seeing such bad quality construction even noticable by afar, reaffirmed my choice.
There are a ton around me. Every time I pass one I pay close attention to the body. Many times, it looks to me like the body panels just donāt line up. They kind of look like shit TBH.
Yeah, Iāve ridden in a few and the build quality issues are noticeable.
They have some features I like, especially the door handles. Those are super cool. And by all means, I want more EV sales in general.
But like, comparing a Tesla to something like a Hyundai Ioniq is just night and day.
I already peg Tesla drivers next to Altimas and Ram 2500s, just different energy
Tesla is for the people who donāt want to drive a car, and their driving aptitude is frequently on full display
Altimas and Ram needs no further explanation, you already know
O rly?
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Being a Tesla owner is brutal because neither the left nor the right respect you.
Gotta get one of the āI bought this before we knew Elon was an assholeā bumper stickers.
Obviously only works on a car that came out before we knew Elon was an asshole
Thereās a guy in Hawaii selling āI bought this before I knew Elon was crazyā bumper stickers for $10, and heās already sold over 10,000 this year.
Good, Iām glad for him. With the upcoming tariffs/trade war coming our way, I can only imagine how much higher the cost of living in Hawaii is about to get.
Link?
Tesla is already a rolling pile of shit. How much more punishment do you want their owners to have?
Nazi, who inherited his generational fortune through slave labor, makes people uncomfortable. They leave. Nazi lies about being weird and/or a Nazi.
Insists being a Nazi should not influence anything and demands people and ad money returns.
How long until he sues users to return like he is with advertisers?
Probably in 2025 when he moves all government communication to X because āitās more efficientā.
And we thought ID.me was badā¦
Glad Iām not from the US
Elonās lost the plot. Itās a joy to watch.
Implying he ever had it
Thatās part of the joy, he bought the plot and still managed to lose the plot so quickly itās easy to argue he never had it to begin with.
He paid billions to play himself.
He paid billions (largely of other peopleās money) to influence the US election and world politics. He succeeded. He won.
Not to mention Iām sure his tax cuts and deregulations will offset loses for buying X. Throw in gutting NASA, he opens more contracts for his companies. He will end up making money for sure.
He could do absolutely nothing but sit on the beach for the rest of his life and heād be making more money off interest than we make in a lifetime
Assuming he lives to 88. And gets only 5% interest on his current money. Interest puts him over 1 trillion easy (around 1.8t) So assuming there are 450,000 users on Lemmy and we all make 3,000,000 dollars in our total livesā¦ Yeah he will make about 1.5 times what me all make.
Sidenote: average stock market growth over 10 years has been around 11% I saw. So that would put his worth around 8.9 trillion in 35 years of just sitting on investments.
Great number choice haha. The fascists love the number 88!
It really goes to show how fucking nuts these billionaires are. They could fucking relax for the rest of their lives in luxury but thatās not enough for them.
Money is just a symbol for power. Thereās never enough for these ghouls.
I disagree that him owning Twitter causes Trump to win. I have not heard any credible source make this claim. This sounds like 4D chess nonsense. He clearly did not want to own Twitter and didnāt know what to do with it either once he did and still had no clue how to use it.
Whatever responsibility can be placed on Twitter it would be them deplatforming him, allowing voters to forget how insane he is. This occurred prior to his purchase.
Rather than attempting to lay the blame for trumps second election on platforms, we need to come to terms with accepting that this is the direction that the majority of Americanās wanted. This includes those who did not vote, since their apathy allowed Trump to win.
A plurality of Americans are very very dumb. The entire world knows this. We pretend they just donāt get us, know us, etc but we cannot ignore the reality exposed by these election outcomes.
Oh I donāt think it was a major reason. He may have regretted it at first but that may have been bullshit. Now heās one of the most powerful people in the world, politically, until Trump turns on him.
I donāt think it can be proven, just like bezos owning the Washington post canāt be proven to sway things.
A bunch of billionaires owning consolidated media, what could go wrong?!
Trust me. Whether we can prove it or not, the whole purpose of buying Twitter was to kneecap the āleftā in organizing (sorry but most are actually liberals, especially the PMC echo chamber that was Twitter and is now becoming Bluesky), push nazi content, and sway the election. Supposedly heās going after the UK election too but Iāll be honest I havenāt been paying attention to that. A whole bunch of major democracies had elections this year. He swayed the most important one.
No he hasnāt, shitter served its purpose, to sway an election.
Thatās an expensive way to sway an election. If thatās the case, critical thinking abilities of the average Xitter user is pretty fucking low. Breaking News: Shepherd Herds Sheep.
The average Twitter user is a bot letās be honest.
Itās about manufacturing consent, and to musk, itās chump change. What you would spend on a pricey hobby is what heās doing at his level.
Also not just an election but society itself.
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topkek, even
X is done.
Oh I hope this is true.
In the future I hope they do studies on what percentage of nazi content is necessary to destabilize a platform and get an established base of regular people and companies to flee.
To hear it told on Bluesky, itās the better blocking tools and the culture of āwe donāt have to put up with these assholes.ā
shrug
Iāve been off Twitter for years and even before that I probably posted less than a half-dozen times per year. I mostly prefer subject-based social media (here) over identity-based, but Iām looking to surround myself with people who talk about something other than politics because the last Trump presidency I just couldnāt handle the constant tide of horrors.
I just need somewhere to escape all that and if not, Iām going to be in a really mentally unhealthy place for the next four years.
If ya like scifi and whatnot may I suggest the space battles forum. Theyre pretty chill, alzo the fanfiction side is pretty bloodthirsty.
Thereās a good way to talk about it!
How else can we describe Lemmy? Iāll call it a āsocial news siteā but meh
I like subject vs identity because I enjoy discussing issues and I enjoy seeing familiar people in the discussions, but I donāt like being followed and following is hard for me. I might love your thoughts on Star Wars but you also post a lot of cat pictures which Iām neutral about and sports which I donāt like.
So if I follow you and see those three subjects, two posts I have to cognitively tune out. If I follow a Star Wars board, I get your thoughts and potentially two other peopleās thoughts in those same three posts.
I like that. On Bluesky (or TwX/Mastodon) I have to find people who mostly post about things I want to see. Itās hard and itās not conducive to massive follow/follower counts which is normally the measure of success.
I also find myself feeling constrained to only post things my followers are interested in, because as an individual Iām just not that fascinating. So I post less and less as my follower count goes up.
Because of all that, subject vs identity is the most natural way to divide up social media to me. Iād be happy to brainstorm other ways, though.
I hope so, although it might serve as an easy way for companies to bribe the first lady Musk for favours with Trump
Might as well make āBiggest Donorā a cabinet position at this point
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Yep. Fortunately for Elon (and, you know, fascism) he doesnāt need it any more. For Elon, it is already āMission Accomplishedā. The richest, most thin-skinned losers on Earth already control the biggest economy and the biggest military. What more could that shitstain hope to get out of Twitter?
Well now heās calling for a new election in the UK (presumably to put the right wing bac in) so looks like heās not happy with just proxy ruling America.
Haha right you are. It is in his nature, I suppose, to grasp and grasp after already being the richest person in history. In a better world, we would put people like Musk in a nice, humane institution.
Heās not the richest in history. Modern history, sure if you count excluding inflation. But when people like Mansa Musa existed Musk has quite a ways to go. Hell even Carnegieās wealth eclipsed Musk if youāre talking purchasing power.
Musk has now surpassed Carnegie. You are right about Mansa Musa (for now), but the gap is closing. According to google today, Musk is at $334B, Carnegie peaked at a modest $309B, and Mansa Musa had about $400B, though there are quibbles about personal wealth vs. kingdomās treasury. If you want to compare Musk and Musa, I think you could reasonably add the GDP of the US to Muskās fortune, since he is one of the puppeteers behind Trump. All figures adjusted for inflation, by the way.
Or a nice, sharp guillotine
And heās dancing around Ukraine and Putin. This guy is so entitled.
Well, you have to remember, heās an entitled NepoBaby manchild who grew up rich off an emerald mine in Apartheid South Africa, failed upwards into every position heās ever held after blowing shit tons of money into failing companies, claims he knows more about manufacturing than anyone else despite his products getting recalled almost weekly and openly flaunting safety standards over the color of safety gear, and just overall is a massive dweeb who shills failed crypto scams and political grifts over on the Social Media platform he spent Too Much Moneyā¢ļø on.
So yeah, of COURSE he thinks he can shadow-run 2 governments at once by funding Fascist takeovers. Heās just that stupid and entitled. And when it all blows up in his face one day, all I will do is laugh.
The fact that Elon Musk has time to shadow run GOVERNMENTS while ALSO being CEO of THREE Companies is PROOF that ceos EARN their Billions of Dollars with how much Harder they work!
It served its purpose.
Let that sink in.
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This was such a compensating thing. Tried to back out of the deal, wasnāt allowed to, then made this dumbass dad joke. āI meant to do thatā vibes, fucking pathetic.
Obviously he was pulling some crazy 6D chess moves, but weāre all just dumb peasants that donāt understand what a genius Elon truly is
X never was. Twitter is dead though
What a dipshit
ā Elon Musk
That one 2 panel image of people laughing at a guy who pissed on his pants and he says: āhuh. free marketing.ā
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So reading all the comments here:
X is far Right, conservatives - bad.
Lemmy is far Left, liberal - good.
You both sound as bad as each other.
No no you see once in Lemmy you can engage in the communist left vs liberal center-left battles. Itās turtles all the way down.
If weāre being honest, theyāre both echo chambers, but one of decidedly more malevolent than the other.
Lemmy is definitely not an echo chamber. As a leftist thereās a ton of liberal simp vooooooote blue no matter who bullshit, followed by blaming everyone but their shitty ass candidate and even shittier ass party for the loss.
The right wing in contrast is in unison lining up to fellate trumps little mushroom.
You just become someone good when interacting with the good people š
How your comment reads to the rest of us:
āWrong reason people donāt like twitter - bad
Wrong reason people like lemmy - good
You both sound the same to meā
The horseshoe theory holds true in many cases. Far ends of the spectrum have more in common with eachother than they do with the people on the middle. Antisemitism is a good example of something you find in both extremes. Calls for violence is another example.
Israel is doing genocide but the Jews are real victims of US political discourse
I think bombing civilians is bad and going after people because of their religion is also bad. You donāt actually need to choose either or.
every time holocaust and jews are brought up in the modern context, you are making that choice.
Id assume they meant residents of the Jewish state who are on the side of the Jewish states government, not all Jews worldwideā¦but Iām just giving benefit of the doubt. Similarly I assume people saying Americans chose this or Americans support genocide mean the 51% who do.
Nah, itās more like <1%. The average citizen does have a say in who our representatives are, but we donāt get to decide what choices they make. When you vote for someone, you donāt necessarily agree with everything they do, you just think the country would go in a better direction with them vs their opponents.
For example, Biden didnāt meaningfully push back on Israel, and I doubt Trump would do anything differently. So if you are super passionate about the Israel-Gaza war, you canāt vote for either, but that means throwing your vote away with a third party candidate, which has other caveats (i.e. if you have a preference on issues other than Israel-Gaza, voting third party reduces that voice). I voted third party this past election because I knew my state would vote overwhelmingly for one of the candidates (and it did, like clockwork), so my vote had more value as a protest against the terrible candidates we had instead of throwing it to either the one that would win or the runner-up.
In a democracy, things really arenāt that binary. Just because a candidate won 51% of the vote or whatever doesnāt mean 51% of the populace agrees with their policies, they just think theyāll do a better job than the main alternative. In this case, I think it largely came down to the economy, and people thought Trump would do better than Harris on that. I personally think the Presidential Puzzle (video by Ben Felix about it here) is more convincing than an actual shift in national agreement with Trump.
Unless youāre referring to anti Zionist Jews. NO.
False premiseā¦ not wanting Palestinian babies to be slaughtered en masse is not anti-Semitism. Fuck that.
There isnāt a far right and āfar leftā equivalency - one side are fascists and the other are anti fascists. Opposition of objective evil is NOT an extreme, itās a baseline position.
Quiet propaganda, like this comment, did a lot to bring our broken society to this point.
You know the Palestinians, who are currently being genocided with American weapons and money, are semites right?
How does this relate to what I said?
Seems like you were using antisemitism as shorthand for antizionism
Iām talking about the hatred of jews.
Is holding israel accountable for its genocide āhatred of Jewsā?
I havenāt said a world about Israel.
But you say the āfar leftā āhatesā Jews.
The far left hates Israel. The far left hates zionists. The far left does not hate jews.
Meanwhile the far right are literally Nazis marching around with swastikas.
But yeah theyāre totally the same š youāre really great at playing dumb.
No, Iām saying youāll find antisemites on both the far left and the far right - not that everyone on the far left hates Jews. Not everyone on the far right does either.
If youāre going to argue that there are no antisemites on the far left whatsoever, then thereās nothing to discuss here.
Youāre arguing enlightened centrism, which is completely false.
The far right has a substantial amount of people who hate Jews.
The far left had a substantial amount of people who hate Israel and zionists.
They are not the same.
There are people on the far left who also hate jews just as passionately as the nazies do. The fact that you canāt even aknowledge this shows that youāre not a rational thinker and thus I donāt need to waste my time with you.
What, the handful of randoms on the left that hold zero power politically or socially? The couple of weirdo loners? Whereās the evidence?!
Letās compare and contrast with the trump fueled āJews will not replace usā white nationalist march in Charlottesville ššššššššššššššššš or how about the more recent nazi march in Springfield šššššššššššš
Enlightened centrists are just right wing grifters out of touch with reality.
Have your fun here on the internet today, but just remember this āhighā when your grandkids tell you youāre not invited to Christmas one day. The people around you see the garbage you are in full color. They see the world you didnāt care to save on their behalf. Enjoy that fucking loneliness and crawl to your forums for the only illusion of validation youāll have left at that point, from a fucking bot.
Chud.
Already told on yourself - We all know you canāt read.
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Trump won the election, this gereatric nepo baby will be well paid for his services
Twitters is a just a pokemon card for him and he used it well.
Who is the geriatric one?
Both is them but based on context of the above. Comment, telsa tubby is who I was referring to
Hardly a geriatric. They are as GenX as it gets.
Boomers are the ones currently in the Geriatric territory.
Don't take it personally... But for people under 30, people above 30 are gereatric
Also genX post covid has been booming extra hard lol
Thatās bs. Speak for yourself only. This is not the first time I see geriatric being misused for this piece of shit.
Old enough to be a gereatric but with maturity of 25 yo?
If over 30 is considered geriatric to you and assuming 21 is graduating from child to adult, youāre telling me that in your mind that people are only normal adults for 9 years?
My point being it is matter of perspective but y'all got worked up pver it...
30 maybe too low but over 50 is pretty safe bet. I don't see anything controversial with that this take.
Bold words coming from a toddler.
Why so hurt?
I just consider anyone younger than me a toddler, thatās just how I roll. Donāt blame me for being a toddler.
U mad tho...
Only if you are. Are you mad?
OP is unaware Loganās Run was just a shitty movie - except for that open-sided dress, of course. Renew!
And itāll happen to you one day too
I am already old... WTF is u talking about.
You feel better now?
Iām 47 and my 14-year-old daughter gets upset when I call myself an old man, so Iām not sure Iām in agreement with you.
I wonder what thing TrumpEtAL is going to do to require people to create X accounts.
And then what thing that TrumpEtAL will do to make it so that his enemies canāt sign up and hence be in trouble with TrumpEtAL.
IRS integration requiring efiling through xitter.
OMG just no.
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Guess how the suckers that want to work with Elon and Vivek have to submit resumes?
Elon Musk before: āOh, these old Twitter executives were so dumb. When number go up, youāve gotta show it everywhere!ā
Elon Musk now: āNumber not go up? For cripes sake, donāt show it!ā
I never really understood twitter. Feels to me like itās all about following personalities in a poor format that doesnāt cater to discussion. Iāve had an account since early, mostly for testing twitter integrations for work. I havenāt even bothered to log in for a couple of years.
I logged in yesterday just to deactivate my account.
I think it really only made sense to me when it was SMS social media.
Canāt remember which phone I had but for something like this it was neat.
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I made a Twitter account in the early days when I was a teenager. The sole reason I made it was because one of my favorite bands had an account. Their posts would be sent in an SMS to my phone, and the cool thing about that was how it felt like they were texting me personally.
I have no idea when I last logged in, let alone when I last posted. When the SMS feature was dropped, so did my interest.
The last time I used Twitter was when I had ubertwitter for blackberry.
It scans if you look at it like short form blogging. Even YouTube runs under about the same operating theater. The comments are there but they have to beg / trick the viewers into engaging.
Wasnāt adding engagement numbers to each tweet one of the first things he added? I remember thinking āwho the fuck wants to see that?ā But I guess to people like him that was important at the time? Huh.
Drumpf is obsessed with rally size, skuM is obsessed with twitter engagement. Rotten tomatoh, decomposing tomahto.
All of the numbers are fake anyway. You can just sit there and f5 the page to get views on your own tweet lmao
is this true Captain?
Yup just tried it again. Also basically anything counts as a view, scroll by the post, embedded tweet, scraper scraping the tweet. Almost every time the page is viewed by anyone or anything will bump the number even if itās repeated visit from the same viewer withing short time frame.
I guess itās kinda nice that itās simply transparent like that for admins but thatās not what users expect - itās a useless metric and very easy to inflate.
Iām tempted to fire up a dozen android emulators with a refresh loop to see how far this can be pushed but I really donāt want to have that shit platform on my mind longer than I have to tbh.
Even GitHub provides more sophisticated metrics
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Over a million people joined Bluesky after the election and seem to be using it. Also a lot of news & media companies have moved over too. So I would assume that at least that many users have disappeared from X or their activity has diminished. On top of that all the bots have gone home now the election is over so the amount of activity must have suffered. And Bluesky is basically old Twitter so people are settling into it and liking it.
I would advise anyone who still using X to give it a try. And if they want to use X for whatever reason - uninstall the app, install Control Panel for Twitter into their mobile browser and browse that for a relatively bullshit free experience - no ads, no algorithmic lists, just what you subscribe to.
Iām loving it so far!!
Should I try Bluesky even if I barely have used Xitter recently?
Sure. Thereās not a lot of ābulk contentā trash farms yet so it feels more real than even twitter did before the enXhittification.
If you donāt use Twitter then I donāt see any reason to try Bluesky since it could basically be described as classic Twitter. But if you liked Twitter until it because a cesspit of far right shitheads, crypto bros, bots, and ads then give Bluesky a go.
No, no, I think you donāt understand. /lh
What I meant by that is that I donāt use it so often like most people do (2 hours a day or so), I mean like, opening once or twice every 1 or 2 weeks.
My personal suggestion? Stop using Twatter.
Whether you move on to some other microblogging platform (like Bluesky or Mastodon) or just drop it entirely is a different question and depends on what content you care about. When you do check it, what do you check it for? Would you really miss that?
If itās specific accounts or personalities you care about, you could check if they have opened alternative accounts on those other platforms and let that inform your decision. If itās topics, I donāt know enough about Blueskyās userbase to recommend it, but I know Mastodonās @FediFollows@social.growyourown.services has a bunch of topic-oriented curated lists.
musk copies feature from zuckerberg backed competitor, threads.