Pakistani religious body declares using VPN is against Islamic law (www.voanews.com)
from annHowe@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.world on 16 Nov 20:52
https://lemmy.zip/post/26423177

cross-posted from: sh.itjust.works/post/28167168

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just_another_person@lemmy.world on 16 Nov 20:56 next collapse

Lol

Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Nov 21:10 next collapse

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 17 Nov 16:36 collapse

Documenta PDF omnia custodiunt.

massive_bereavement@fedia.io on 16 Nov 22:44 next collapse

Does the Noble Quran only refer to OpenVPN tunnels or it also covers WireGuard? What if I'm setting my own server on a halal VPS?

ComradeMiao@lemmy.world on 16 Nov 23:59 next collapse

It depends on where your VPS physically is and the last name of the persons father hosting it.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Nov 10:08 collapse

Explain the last name joke?

ComradeMiao@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 10:49 collapse

In trying to explain my joke I think I found it may not directly apply outside of the Arabic speaking Arab world, but typically last names are important as they say who the person is the son or daughter of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_name?wprov=sfti1#Ism

It isn’t just a lineage of last names but who your daddy is.

If I remember correctly from my Arabic class in college some people can have even longer lineage names with multiple peoples included.

Pakistan seems to be sort of a mix en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani_name?wprov=sfti1#…

I also found this random paper describing Afghani naming so I wonder if I was wrong. citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pd…

BMTea@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 06:05 collapse

What they actually said is not that VPNs are banned, but using them to access blocked content is. First they mention porn, which is straightforward religiously, but then they also state that accessing blocked “disinformation” is also haram, which is gibberish and has no basis in either religious or secular morals.

mannycalavera@feddit.uk on 16 Nov 22:51 next collapse

Wait till they hear about the HA-RAM proxy… For when your memory needs to be available now!

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ComradeMiao@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 00:00 collapse

What

BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network on 17 Nov 01:21 next collapse

This is plainly insane.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster has decreed to me that VPN use is totally cool and his worshipers should feel ok using them. 🍝

rikudou@lemmings.world on 17 Nov 14:04 collapse

That was my official religion during last census!

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 03:00 next collapse

Suck my dick.

land@lemmy.ml on 17 Nov 03:43 next collapse

🤣 bruv this is a propaganda for the government to crackdown opposition parties. There is no such thing as “Islamic Law against vpn”. They make up things and call it a day

acockworkorange@mander.xyz on 18 Nov 03:00 collapse

No shit.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 17 Nov 03:52 next collapse

So boning 8 year olds is cool, but a VPN is a step too far?

aceshigh@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 04:00 next collapse

Boning 8 year olds is tradition. Vpn is new scary tech.

masquenox@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 11:44 collapse

Boning 8 year olds is tradition.

For whom? You?

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 14:27 collapse

For the entire planet, prior to the last few hundred years. Religion agreed, because pedos are attracted to power and religious leaders were the most powerful.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Nov 10:05 next collapse

Zionism and Islamophobia always goes hand in hand

mwguy@infosec.pub on 17 Nov 11:29 collapse

Are you saying dislike of child molestation is Islamaphobic?

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Nov 13:42 collapse

Alleging islam encourages child molestation is islamophobia

rikudou@lemmings.world on 17 Nov 14:04 next collapse

Yeah, they have to be 9 years old consenting girls!

wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 17 Nov 18:41 next collapse

Is it islamophobic to point out that their holy prophet had a bride that is widely believed to have been between six and nine years old when they married, and to have been nine years old when the marriage was consumated?

I get that isn’t explicitly encouraging it, but I’ve never heard of any context that in any way justifies their prophet having sex with a nine year old (not that any possibly could).

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Nov 19:20 collapse

The user didn’t point it out that tho. Reaching puberty is the age of consent according to the Quran and Aishas age isn’t a fact like you present it as. Marriage and intercourse are two different things in islam. Idk what you mean by justifying it. It was a societal norm, not only in the arab deserts but the whole world that practised in now what’s called child marriage. This is general knowledge.

There was no school or any other societal structure that kept kids separate from adult responsibilities back in the day, so comparing the age of consent now vs then( as long as just a century ago) doesn’t make sense. Differentiating a man vs a boy was decided by his mastery of trade he was apprenticed in. A girl and a women, periods.

You could ask the same question about the bible which set the societal norm of this exact context. Or judaism which goes even futher to state even while things which I don’t want to say cause I don’t want to get banned. Do not say this is whataboutism cause it’s not. The arabian peninsula was indeed heavily influenced by judaism and Christianity before Muhammad was born.

Edit: forgot to add that it’s not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen.

nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca on 17 Nov 19:44 next collapse

One day your Internet search history is going to traumatize a police officer.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 18 Nov 04:50 collapse

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sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 18 Nov 03:22 next collapse

Just FYI most people who calling out Islam are also calling the Catholics for covering child rape too...

So don't even try that. You really need to do some thinking about what you are trying to argue why you feel compelled to take this idiotic aplogist position.

Mohammed was a pedophile, Catholic clergy ar pedophiles... Until religionous people and their corrupt institutions admit this, there is nothing to talk about.

And online communities will continue to call out this unacceptable positions for what they are...

Pedophilia apologia

PS so we are clear... What Israel is going in Gaza is genocide. But being a Muslim doesn't give anyone a right to justify pedophilia

Tanka@lemmings.world on 18 Nov 04:54 next collapse

Can you explain how your ancestors differentiated a girl vs a women with proof. Ancestors from 1000 years ago.

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mwguy@infosec.pub on 18 Nov 03:59 collapse

Edit: forgot to add that it’s not a practise anymore except some extremist groups like the taliban and some remote places like in yemen.

This is a bald faced lie.

telegraph.co.uk/…/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of…

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 18 Nov 04:47 collapse

It didn’t happen tho. How is it a lie? I already said “extremist groups”.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 19 Nov 04:59 collapse

What do you mean it didn’t happen? That law is working it’s way through the Iraqi parliament and is expected to pass because it has broad support. That’s not extremist, that’s just Islam within 2 standard deviation of the mean.

mwguy@infosec.pub on 18 Nov 03:57 collapse

Is it Islamaphobic or is it accurate? Iraq, an Islamic Republic is proposing lowering its age of consent to 9. It’s a move supported for and suggested by its Islamic clergy.

Maybe you meant to say, “Acknowledging” instead of “Alleging”?

bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml on 17 Nov 11:13 collapse

Finally, someone who calls it how it is🙏🗣️🗯️

kokesh@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 07:42 next collapse

They also threw fatwa at Jerry (yes, that cartoon mouse) before, so.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Nov 10:04 collapse

Who is “they”

kokesh@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 10:05 collapse

Religious nuts

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Nov 10:09 collapse

This is a government entity thats trying to crackdown against opposition. Nothing to do with religion.

TheFriar@lemm.ee on 17 Nov 12:38 collapse

It’s “the advisory board of religious affairs.” You think that group of people can’t be religious nuts?

Also, it’s 100% about religion because their entire excuse is that it runs contrary to religious law. I mean, to your credit, you’re kinda right because this does have nothing to truly do with religion and is about control. But they’re using religion to do it.

“Using a VPN goes against our religious beliefs?” Come the fuck on.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Nov 13:44 collapse

Read the article. The title is click bait. They never claimed using a vpn is against their religion.

DontNoodles@discuss.tchncs.de on 17 Nov 10:00 next collapse

Didn’t their prime minister recently use a VPN to congratulate Trump on X, which is blocked from access by the same govt?

Kbobabob@lemmy.world on 17 Nov 14:00 next collapse

I’m not sure. Are you asking to get an answer?

DontNoodles@discuss.tchncs.de on 17 Nov 14:09 collapse

No, I wanted to bring out the irony. Maybe an ‘‽’ would have been better than the ‘?’ I put at the end of my comment.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 17 Nov 16:33 collapse

Elites do not have to follow the rules, that’s the one reason to become an elite in the first place!

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 18 Nov 03:15 collapse

Game 101

Spacehooks@reddthat.com on 17 Nov 10:18 next collapse

Let’s use this against yallcada when they try the same.

[deleted] on 17 Nov 11:32 next collapse

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jaemo@sh.itjust.works on 17 Nov 16:50 next collapse

Pass me some apostate-o chips while I log in then!

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 04:04 next collapse

Main use is to hit western porn sites. Just be honest and say being horny is banned.

Etterra@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 13:00 collapse

Typical religion, just making up stupid shit to enforce their control over people.