Youtube adds setting for uploaders to allow third party AI training on videos
from BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 22:18
https://lemmy.world/post/23291496

Just saw the notification for this in my Youtube Studio. For now it seems as if this setting is turned off by default, but for anyone like myself who uploads videos to Youtube, I recommend checking that they don’t decide to toggle this on for you in the future.

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TommySoda@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 22:43 next collapse

I don’t upload YouTube videos so I’m unsure about the logistics of settings for videos. Do you get these options on videos already uploaded or is this only an option when first uploaded? Is this for the whole channel or video specific? Just curious how it works. Regardless if they ever decide to turn it on by default that would mean YouTubers would have to go through hundreds of videos and turn it off individually unless it’s a channel wide setting kinda thing.

Edit: Just noticed it’s under channel settings so I guess that’s a good thing. If it was video specific that would be just plain evil. I guess I shouldn’t give them ideas…

thebestaquaman@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 23:09 next collapse

Looking at the general quality of YouTube videos, and the expected demographic of people that would select this option, this looks like a recipe for creating the most conspiracy-theory-oriented AI ever created.

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz on 18 Dec 23:09 next collapse

As if companies aren’t scraping all of it anyway.

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 18 Dec 23:17 collapse

Any company that respects copyright is being left in the dust by China

Skipcast@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 23:47 next collapse

And everyone else

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Dec 00:00 next collapse

Copyright doesn’t prevent this, FYI

underisk@lemmy.ml on 19 Dec 02:12 next collapse

it’s not as though companies in the US are “respecting copyrights” with AI, so idk why you think that’s unique to China.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 08:46 next collapse

China Bad, though.

Empricorn@feddit.nl on 19 Dec 11:22 collapse

Foreigners scary, duh.

Empricorn@feddit.nl on 19 Dec 11:25 collapse
metaStatic@kbin.earth on 18 Dec 23:18 next collapse

I upload unstructured noise. Good fucking luck AI scum.

potatopotato@sh.itjust.works on 18 Dec 23:29 next collapse

Would nose or ai generated slop with ai generated titles do more damage to the model?

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 18 Dec 23:45 next collapse

I don't do it to mess with them I just assume it would

VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Dec 12:55 collapse

Now I’m curious - why do you upload unstructured noise?

metaStatic@kbin.earth on 19 Dec 19:22 collapse

and I'm going to throw away this perfectly good marketing opportunity to point you at the noise music rabbit hole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuRSD1zWx8

VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 20 Dec 08:25 collapse

Hmh, interesting. Dunno whether it’ll make the casual listening playlist, but I’ve been to some hardcore bands that didn’t sound that different.

Quik@infosec.pub on 19 Dec 06:26 collapse

Both could be filtered out in theory (which they should do if they were smart, because amount of training data matters way less than quality or training data), but filtering AI created slop is harder, especially if you just slightly modify it.

FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee on 19 Dec 08:35 next collapse

Lmao

Womble@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 17:57 collapse

Gosh you’ve certainly got them there, no way they could spot that and its bound to ruin their whole model with that 0.00001% of input it represents.

L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works on 18 Dec 23:19 next collapse

Coincidentally, Google just like two days ago revealed their new text-to-video AI model that somehow is leaps and bounds above the rest of the competition they attribute to better training data. How weird. Coincidentally weird, of course.

pennomi@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 23:57 next collapse

They’re not a third-party! Loophole!

Grimy@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 01:24 next collapse

All video generation models are heavily trained on YouTube. YouTube and Hollywood are essentially the only datasets.

Teils13@lemmy.eco.br on 19 Dec 06:25 next collapse

It’s going to be fun navigating Youtube in the future when 95% of it is robotic videos with 95% AI comments below to match.

Honestly, I wish it was the other way around, a video-to-text service that writes a good synthesis, a complete transliteration with formating, or even an expanded version, with screenshoot images if deemed necessary. So many videos could be turned into nice essays and commentary.

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 09:39 next collapse

I despise seeing an interesting topic or attention grabbing question only for it to be a 20-30 minute shit heap.

fnrir@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 10:28 collapse

It’s called dead Internet theory

fnrir@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 10:27 collapse

EDIT: Wrong comment. Sorry

Humanius@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 23:29 next collapse

I have a YouTube channel as well, and also got notified about this.
The setting is disabled by default, so I don’t have a particularly large problem with it. But that might also be because I’m in the EU.

BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world on 18 Dec 23:35 collapse

Surprisingly I’m in the US and it’s off by default, at least for now. They’ll toggle it on then claim it was an accident after they make a couple billion dollars.

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 09:43 collapse

Its not surprising. Youtube now has standing to sue other models for scrapping their information while also making it exclusive to third party consent - there is no toggle visible for google using to model ai.

This is them making it explicit that only they can use youtube, especially given how it has shown to be a great asset in putting them ahead with the text to video.

smokebuddy@lemmy.today on 18 Dec 23:39 next collapse

Imagine companies using YouTube videos to train their AI customer service reps. You call in, and for a while think you’re having a conversation with a person, but weirdly every minute and a half or so it’s just randomly peppered with that metal gear solid alert sound, the inevitable waowwww sound effect, Michael Scott and Dr. Evil soundboard clips, then when you start getting suspicious that it may not actually be a real human on the other line they randomly go on an ad read for hellofresh out of nowhere

humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee on 19 Dec 00:53 next collapse

Pure cancer

AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee on 19 Dec 01:02 next collapse

You know as a fact that they probably rolled out the feature.and then turned it on for every single uploaded video that ever existed in the platform before the rollout.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 04:33 next collapse

Me: "I should upload a series of daily videos where I speak exclusively jibberish, while doing insane movements/“dances”

“USHNXMBXSGJLOCXRH OJCSSIKBFHHFDUKFSYKM TKJFSTJVDDJVCDIBCF”

meanwhile doing hip thrusts and cartwheels simutaniously while my neighbor below bangs on their ceiling with a broom

asudox@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Dec 10:41 next collapse

Yeah, third party companies. Google is still allowed to train their AI on them.

Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Dec 13:03 next collapse

Guess which option will be set to off by users, which youtube will make the default to “on”, and then entirely remove the button when users adapt to turning it off.

kent_eh@lemmy.ca on 19 Dec 22:43 collapse

Surprisingly, it is actually being deployed with opt-out being the default.

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Dec 13:51 next collapse

it’s awful but thankfully it looks like it’s opt in not opt out.

sudoku@programming.dev on 19 Dec 14:26 next collapse

they can just bury your channel and never promote it if you don’t accept, right?

calcopiritus@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 22:00 collapse

Don’t worry. This is just third party AIs. Google’s AIs will still be trained on them without your permission.

thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Dec 14:47 next collapse

The youtube videos have already been used to train AI. MKBHD proved it when sora crapped out his own plant in a generated “tech video”. The question is whether google allowed it or not.

kent_eh@lemmy.ca on 19 Dec 22:42 collapse

For once, they actually implemented a new “feature” as opt-in, rather than opt-out.