It’s clear they made this weird on purpose but still, so many questions…
the robot hangs suspended from the ceiling as its limbs twitch and kick, marking what the company claims is a step toward its goal of creating household-helper robots
Oh yeah, definitely a huge step in that direction…
Clone Robotics designed the Protoclone with a polymer skeleton that replicates 206 human bones
That’s all of the bones of an human adult. Yeah, I’m sure absolutely all of them were necessary.
It’s definitely made that accurate/creepy for marketing reasons, they’re probably hoping this will help them get investors. I would also assume you can simplify the human body design a good bit before losing the functionality we actually want from something like this.
the only thing I’m hoping for is that this can serve as a proof of concept that human brains might be able to learn to control limbs made of synthetic muscles like that…
junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 22 Feb 13:20
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I don’t understand these companies’ obsession with humanoid robots. A robot doesn’t have to humanoid to be a useful household helper. It doesn’t even have to be humanoid for people to form a friendly bond with it (something I think would be a good quality in a “household helper”) just look at Star Wars droids
Some of this is also about less complicated ways to use patents that can also be applied to things like prosthetic limbs.
Also, it provides a control case with how well-studied human anatomy is. In terms of basic mechanical motion, there’s a clear baseline goal.
I remember seeing early versions of the synthetic muscle fibers years ago, but as far as ways to practically apply them and test, and refine them as control technology improves with machine learning. 10-15 years ago, this wasn’t really possible.
It has to be humanoid to live among humans, using human architecture and technology.
systemglitch@lemmy.world
on 22 Feb 14:41
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The goal is to replicate humans, so yeah
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk
on 22 Feb 17:01
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That’s all of the bones of an human adult. Yeah, I’m sure absolutely all of them were necessary.
Are you trying to imply they gave it a dick? If so they don’t have bones in them.
Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world
on 22 Feb 17:56
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No, it’s pretty much only you thinking that. The rest of us were thinking about the 6 tiny bones in the ears only used for hearing or dozens of weird little bones in the wrists and ankles.
Exactly, ear in particular was what I thought about. There are very tiny bones in there. I’m pretty sure they didn’t replicate a functional human ear, so those have no impact on anything.
Many bones in the hand and foot are also locked in place together, so modeling each one seems, well, I don’t think it’s a waste of time, but at this point you’re making an art performance.
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk
on 22 Feb 20:16
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Hmm, I have some questions to ask myself seemingly
There's that bit in an episode of Red Dwarf, that may or may not have been a collective hallucinated memory of the crew, where they talk about a series of mechanoids (servant androids) that were "too human" looking and which unnerved customers.
The result of that was that they made their next series of mechanoids look like Kryten, with the low-poly heads on a similarly angular body.
Even if it was a false memory, the logic is absolutely sound. You want your 'bots to be at the other side of the uncanny valley, not at the bottom, creeping all horror-show-like up the side towards us.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Feb 12:41
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Bravo scientists for realizing how creepy this is and saying, let’s lean into it.
SleafordMod@feddit.uk
on 22 Feb 13:00
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MNByChoice@midwest.social
on 22 Feb 13:33
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Let’s ensure we also make household robots unreasonably strong and durable. We don’t want shotgun wielding humans to be able to disable one, or barricade in a house.
kibiz0r@midwest.social
on 22 Feb 13:52
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We really are obsessed with replicating any and all sci-fi cautionary tales, aren’t we?
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world
on 22 Feb 20:29
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This kind of thing could actually be really beneficial for prosthetics. If we can make a robot that functions as close as possible to a human body at human size, then we can chunk it up to make prosthetics that work like your original limbs and are easy to adapt to.
jacksilver@lemmy.world
on 22 Feb 16:24
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Can’t wait to find out it was just a guy in a suit.
DepressedMan@reddthat.com
on 22 Feb 18:30
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Or half of man in case of torso.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de
on 22 Feb 16:54
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I don’t like living in the future as much as young me thought I would.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
on 22 Feb 16:56
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Maybe a weird aside, but what does this mean?
pushing fluid at 40 standard liters per minute.
Are there “liters” other than the 10cm x 10cm x 10cm definition?
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world
on 22 Feb 17:51
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You mean the flow rate of a volume of liquid? What are you confused about exactly?
WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world
on 22 Feb 18:25
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Volume changes based on temperature and pressure. So when we reference volume measurements like for flow rates, we typically do the math to adjust those to standard temperature and pressure. Standard pressure is 1 atm but standard temperature varies based on who you’re talking to because of competing standards. It’s usually 25 C or 20 C.
When we want to reference the non temperature and pressure corrected volume, we append actual to it so that people know what the measurement is. Some people don’t do that and that causes confusion for others using their work if the reading is standard or actual.
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That’s weird they decided to publish this with creepy horror-style sounds.
There is another video, showing only the torso. It has no music, but the actual sound and this is not even less terrifying youtu.be/gl0GnzPIOl4
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Posted this the last time I saw this article, but it seems to be even more relevant for this video.
We DO have the spear of Longinus available, right? RIGHT?
They really did go for the “horror movie about to go very wrong” aesthetic when they made those videos, didn’t they.
Yeah, what’s up with the music?
Sounds like the creepy in-mission music in the original X:COM
they could have gone so many different directions. nutcracker. river dance. yackety sax…
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It’s clear they made this weird on purpose but still, so many questions…
Oh yeah, definitely a huge step in that direction…
That’s all of the bones of an human adult. Yeah, I’m sure absolutely all of them were necessary.
How is it going to balance if it does not have a fake cochlea? /s
At first misread as cloaca. Barely even gave me pause in this thread.
It’s definitely made that accurate/creepy for marketing reasons, they’re probably hoping this will help them get investors. I would also assume you can simplify the human body design a good bit before losing the functionality we actually want from something like this.
Maybe they’re attempting to make it ‘learn’ how to move itself using neural networking instead of programming discrete movement presets.
Ooh yeah let’s hope that’s the case.
the only thing I’m hoping for is that this can serve as a proof of concept that human brains might be able to learn to control limbs made of synthetic muscles like that…
I don’t understand these companies’ obsession with humanoid robots. A robot doesn’t have to humanoid to be a useful household helper. It doesn’t even have to be humanoid for people to form a friendly bond with it (something I think would be a good quality in a “household helper”) just look at Star Wars droids
Some of this is also about less complicated ways to use patents that can also be applied to things like prosthetic limbs.
Also, it provides a control case with how well-studied human anatomy is. In terms of basic mechanical motion, there’s a clear baseline goal.
I remember seeing early versions of the synthetic muscle fibers years ago, but as far as ways to practically apply them and test, and refine them as control technology improves with machine learning. 10-15 years ago, this wasn’t really possible.
A humanoid robot can operate in the existing world. It can climb stairs and open a door, for example. A robot on wheels without arms can’t do that.
if you want it to interact with a wide range of environments and objects that were designed for humans, then a humanoid robot may be the way to go.
It has to be humanoid to live among humans, using human architecture and technology.
The goal is to replicate humans, so yeah
Are you trying to imply they gave it a dick? If so they don’t have bones in them.
No, it’s pretty much only you thinking that. The rest of us were thinking about the 6 tiny bones in the ears only used for hearing or dozens of weird little bones in the wrists and ankles.
Exactly, ear in particular was what I thought about. There are very tiny bones in there. I’m pretty sure they didn’t replicate a functional human ear, so those have no impact on anything.
Many bones in the hand and foot are also locked in place together, so modeling each one seems, well, I don’t think it’s a waste of time, but at this point you’re making an art performance.
Hmm, I have some questions to ask myself seemingly
Doesn’t mean they didn’t give it a dick though
I have literally no idea how that came to your mind immediately. It’s very funny to me that it did though.
There's that bit in an episode of Red Dwarf, that may or may not have been a collective hallucinated memory of the crew, where they talk about a series of mechanoids (servant androids) that were "too human" looking and which unnerved customers.
The result of that was that they made their next series of mechanoids look like Kryten, with the low-poly heads on a similarly angular body.
Even if it was a false memory, the logic is absolutely sound. You want your 'bots to be at the other side of the uncanny valley, not at the bottom, creeping all horror-show-like up the side towards us.
Bravo scientists for realizing how creepy this is and saying, let’s lean into it.
<img alt="A meme featuring Peter Griffin sitting in a chair. The text of the meme says “ah sweet man-made horrors beyond my comprehension”." src="https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/e0927726-7ca9-4408-aa05-7d1f2a251f3e.webp">
Let’s ensure we also make household robots unreasonably strong and durable. We don’t want shotgun wielding humans to be able to disable one, or barricade in a house.
We really are obsessed with replicating any and all sci-fi cautionary tales, aren’t we?
It’s the Torment Nexus dilemma.
I’m currently using ChatGPT to develop code that I intend to incorporate into my latest version of Roko’s basilisk v0.17.13
Great, soon I won’t even know if someone is human in real life as well. Youre all bots.
Nonsense, fellow human! I am sure you—l mean we—have nothing to fear!
I see they are prepping for the live action QWOP movie.
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Science isn’t about why, it’s about why not!
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Now we can have people twitching while hanging from the ceiling without having to hunt them in back alleys! Progress!
I don’t even know why the scientists keep making them!
This kind of thing could actually be really beneficial for prosthetics. If we can make a robot that functions as close as possible to a human body at human size, then we can chunk it up to make prosthetics that work like your original limbs and are easy to adapt to.
Can’t wait to find out it was just a guy in a suit.
Or half of man in case of torso.
I don’t like living in the future as much as young me thought I would.
Maybe a weird aside, but what does this mean?
Are there “liters” other than the 10cm x 10cm x 10cm definition?
You mean the flow rate of a volume of liquid? What are you confused about exactly?
They’re asking why it’s “standard litres per minute”, instead of just “litres per minute”
Oh, well yeah Standard liters per minute or SLM, specifically refers to flow rates measured in the U.S.
So the “other” measurement would evidently be Europes “Normal liters per minute”.
What the difference is, I couldn’t tell you.
To totally confuse you: The USA uses the “standard litre” while Europe uses “normal litre”:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_litre_per_minute
Volume changes based on temperature and pressure. So when we reference volume measurements like for flow rates, we typically do the math to adjust those to standard temperature and pressure. Standard pressure is 1 atm but standard temperature varies based on who you’re talking to because of competing standards. It’s usually 25 C or 20 C.
When we want to reference the non temperature and pressure corrected volume, we append actual to it so that people know what the measurement is. Some people don’t do that and that causes confusion for others using their work if the reading is standard or actual.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e4350bdc-1d12-41bf-8c61-eb4403816b26.jpeg">