Yep, me too. But like I said, they are very popular and lots of people do like them.

I work with some of them. They even did a literal cheerleading dance at one point for the company 🤮 When they speak I usually tune out completely because they have nothing of value to say.

Yeh she effectively chose an ethical position with no downside I can think of. Unless they made her sign an NDA / MOU which they clearly didn’t. Their sketchiness is enhanced if anything. Makes me wonder if they made some low level threat at that last minute approach. e.g we are using your voice anyway, now’s your chance to get onboard the gravy train or look bad. Just speculation of course. She wasnt aware apparently. Also the fact they want to mimic the “her” ai is just weird. They are worse than the cautionary fiction.

I read that Scarlett’s family & friends couldn’t tell it apart from her actual voice.

I’d say that “Open AI” or whatever they’re called, trained it specifically on only her voice.

The seems-narcissistic-machiavellian-sociopath-CEO whats-his-face tried to get her to agree to this,

she wouldn’t agree,

he tweeted “her” when releasing the update ( after Scarlett’s movie )

she lawyered up,

he backed down…

I’d say it’s a clear case of identity-theft-for-profit of a celebrity, by a consistently narcissistic-machiavellian-sociopath who’s kinda leaving lots of corpses of “integrity” all over the place.

There’s some law which protects celebrities from use of their likeness, and rightly:

it’s their “coin” that their career is made-of, right?

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I’m mostly going off of this article and a few others I’ve read. This article notes:

Celebrities have previously won cases over similar-sounding voices in commercials. In 1988, Bette Midler sued Ford for hiring one of her backup singers for an ad and instructing the singer to “sound as much as possible like the Bette Midler record.” Midler had refused to be in the commercial. That same year, Tom Waits sued Frito-Lay for voice misappropriation after the company’s ad agency got someone to imitate Waits for a parody of his song in a Doritos commercial. Both cases, filed in California courts, were decided in the celebrities’ favor. The wins by Midler and Waits “have clear implications for AI voice clones,” says Christian Mammen, a partner at Womble Bond Dickinson who specializes in intellectual property law.

There’s some more in there:

To win in these cases, celebrities generally have to prove that their voice or other identifying features are unregistered trademarks and that, by imitating them, consumers could connect them to the product being sold, even if they’re not involved. That means identifying what is “distinctive” about her voice — something that may be easier for a celebrity who played an AI assistant in an Oscar-winning movie.

I think taken with the fact that the CEO made a direct reference to the movie she voiced an AI assistant when announcing the product, that’s enough that a normal person would “connect them to the product being sold.”

It was explicitly represented as her voice when he tweeted “Her” in relation to the product, referencing a movie which she voiced. It’s not a legal grey area in the US. He sank his own ship here.

if they didn’t need to license it, why did they repeatedly try?

Mhmm… that’s why OpenAI asked her for permission to use her voice a while back? That’s why Altman joked about the new voice sounding like hers?

Oh honey. Oh no that wasnt an insult. Id be more creative! I was stating a fact. Your posting history shows us that the Phantasm of scapegoat is allowing you to stand on both sides of the contradiction, simultaneously.

So, you can keep going down this path youre on. We both know where it leads though. Loneliness, and nothing good.

OR: Watch this Kratos lookin guy break down what’s been going on in this area of thought for over a decade, and begin to heal, and then maybe you’ll be able to make friends with people without expecting anything in return.

You deserve that. You deserve to be on both sides of that, and not the phantasm.

Settling out of court doesn’t imply no one did anything wrong lol.

Celebrities get wide latitude to protect themselves from imitators. Impressionists can do “satire” etc. but this isn’t that. It’s explicitly a reference to her voice in the movie, and as such she’s protected by law from them going around her and hiring someone else to imitate her.

Alternate theory, they heard what they came up with, tried to liscence the use of her voice to avoid a legal fight, hoped she might come around after the fact and now here we are.

Seems possible anyway.

Do we know Sam had any specific and previous interest in Scarlet?

Didnt hear this radio interview, but the video they released sounded too close based on the fact that they asked for permission and she said no.

I don’t really care what the article says or what opinions the author has. I’m just asking what you think about those facts involving the subject of said articles.