Rentlar@lemmy.ca
on 27 May 2025 19:50
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The US “America First” policy really seems to be to purge its own reputation and effectively sanction itself. If the Trump admin doesn’t want expertise, there are plenty of conference locations across Canada and elsewhere in the world.
Sidenote: ooh cool HTTP response 303 in the preview!
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 27 May 2025 19:52
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This happened last time Trump was president too.
Except this time it’s way quicker, and probably way more urgent.
This time it’s not just because USA is unpopular, now there are also people who simply don’t want to take the risk of being sent to some prison they may never get out of.
It’s exactly the same as for tourism, which AFAIK has dropped almost 30%. If this translates to conferences, they can expect that 30% of foreigners invited that would normally show, will not want to go to USA.
mriguy@lemmy.world
on 28 May 2025 11:52
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I just went to a conference in Hawaii, which is usually a very popular, but half the poster boards were bare. I saw multiple recorded talks because the speakers were denied entry visas, including one of the opening keynote speakers.
brendansimms@lemmy.world
on 28 May 2025 14:53
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ISMRM? edit : read your username and immediately knew the answer haha
I’d argue that the drop in conference and other professional visitors could be even steeper. There are still enough people who’ll privately take the risk or aren’t informed or think “I’ll be Ok if I comply with the laws”. Companies or universities however have HR departments and people in charge of travelling and compliance. They would risk a lot more money and possibly secrets if the devices are searched and employees are detained. I think they’ll be even more careful and restrict trips to the US. I could imagine a lot of conferences offering online participation and many opting for that rather than risking it.
And if enough international speakers can’t get in even more conferences will opt for moving the entire conference to a different country.
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
on 27 May 2025 20:27
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Good and should continue as such
SuiXi3D@fedia.io
on 27 May 2025 21:03
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That's exactly what they want.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world
on 27 May 2025 21:04
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The murder rate is much lower in the rest of the western world, so good chance this will save some lives
captainWhatsHisName@lemm.ee
on 27 May 2025 21:54
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You know what else negatively impacts scientific communication? Sites like nature.com that require a login to read a full article.
To be clear, the return of Trump is a disaster for the planet. But also a lot of important information is behind paywalls or requires that you give up privacy to read it.
xavier666@lemm.ee
on 28 May 2025 09:54
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🔑 🐦
brendansimms@lemmy.world
on 28 May 2025 14:53
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i heard there’'s this just *horrible * site called sci hub that allows you to put in links from paywalled scientific articles and gives you access to read them and it works for pretty much every scientific paper out there…
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The US “America First” policy really seems to be to purge its own reputation and effectively sanction itself. If the Trump admin doesn’t want expertise, there are plenty of conference locations across Canada and elsewhere in the world.
Sidenote: ooh cool HTTP response 303 in the preview!
This happened last time Trump was president too.
Except this time it’s way quicker, and probably way more urgent.
This time it’s not just because USA is unpopular, now there are also people who simply don’t want to take the risk of being sent to some prison they may never get out of.
It’s exactly the same as for tourism, which AFAIK has dropped almost 30%. If this translates to conferences, they can expect that 30% of foreigners invited that would normally show, will not want to go to USA.
I just went to a conference in Hawaii, which is usually a very popular, but half the poster boards were bare. I saw multiple recorded talks because the speakers were denied entry visas, including one of the opening keynote speakers.
ISMRM? edit : read your username and immediately knew the answer haha
I’d argue that the drop in conference and other professional visitors could be even steeper. There are still enough people who’ll privately take the risk or aren’t informed or think “I’ll be Ok if I comply with the laws”. Companies or universities however have HR departments and people in charge of travelling and compliance. They would risk a lot more money and possibly secrets if the devices are searched and employees are detained. I think they’ll be even more careful and restrict trips to the US. I could imagine a lot of conferences offering online participation and many opting for that rather than risking it.
And if enough international speakers can’t get in even more conferences will opt for moving the entire conference to a different country.
Good and should continue as such
That's exactly what they want.
The murder rate is much lower in the rest of the western world, so good chance this will save some lives
You know what else negatively impacts scientific communication? Sites like nature.com that require a login to read a full article.
To be clear, the return of Trump is a disaster for the planet. But also a lot of important information is behind paywalls or requires that you give up privacy to read it.
🔑 🐦
i heard there’'s this just *horrible * site called sci hub that allows you to put in links from paywalled scientific articles and gives you access to read them and it works for pretty much every scientific paper out there…