Google Will Pay Reddit $60M a Year to Use Its Content for AI: Report (www.thedailybeast.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:00
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Google Will Pay Reddit $60M a Year to Use Its Content for AI: Report::The move boosts revenue for Reddit ahead of its planned stock launch.

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qooqie@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:05 next collapse

Literal steal considering how much content is produced and published there. However, bots training bots will be funny to watch and might lead to some interesting AI detection tech

vodkasolution@feddit.it on 22 Feb 2024 20:34 next collapse

Well, there are about 60 million users, easy math, no?

dhork@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:34 next collapse

Google Will Pay Reddit $60M a Year to Use Our Content for AI

Ftfy

killea@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:46 next collapse

What’s it called when you sell something you don’t own?

bitwaba@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:47 next collapse

Innovative business decision?

thesporkeffect@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 21:11 next collapse

  • theft?

  • piracy?

  • … scalping?

  • selling on margin?

foggy@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 22:21 next collapse

You wouldn’t download petabytes of information that was generated by the public for free and try to monetize it

DOWNLOADING IS PIRACY

skeptomatic@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 2024 03:51 collapse

How the turn tables

maxxxxpower@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 2024 03:57 collapse

“He who sells what isn’t his’n, must buy it back or go to pris’n.”

RGB3x3@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:54 collapse

Reddit getting paid to do fuck-all while their users generate all their content.

Actually, it’s worse than that because Reddit actively makes the site shittier every month.

TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 22:24 next collapse

Don’t forget at least half the stuff on Reddit these days is posted by AI bots. Enshitification all the way down.

Emmy@lemmy.nz on 22 Feb 2024 22:41 collapse

Hasn’t that always been the way?

bbkpr@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 20:36 next collapse

Since half or more of reddit is now bots and shills, I don’t imagine the training data is going to be great. That’s fine, Gemini already sucks, so it’ll be hard to make it worse.

Dexx1s@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 22:06 collapse

The data being generated now sure, but there’s still the years of actually useful data there.

Then add on the remaining half of comments that are from sensible users and it’s a decent, and still fairly unique, dataset.

bbkpr@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 22:36 collapse

There are many, many, many things posted as fact over the years on reddit that are not only untrue, but dangerous or even deadly in the case of some of the most idiotic advice given. I wish good luck telling them all apart to the poor 3rd world contractors the big commercial AI companies exploituse to “train” their stochastic parrots.

GluWu@lemm.ee on 23 Feb 2024 01:42 next collapse

That was one of my favorite shitposting formats. I would type a whole paragraph with technical details and real knowledge. Only the people who actually knew what I was talking about would realize its a shitpost.

bbkpr@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 02:29 collapse

Yep, and a lot of reddit is thinly veiled shitposts, bots, and uncredited karma whoring reposts of stolen content (the commercial AI companies should feel right at home here). Some of them are to anger the self righteous redditors who come to PC police anyone who dares speak against the far left zeitgeist. But most importantly, so, so many of them are just for the lols.

The scariest part is that those drawn out, apparently accurate but actual nonsense posts/comments, is how many of them end up near the top, with massive numbers of votes from those who think “well that sounds reasonable,” but know nothing of the subject itself.

Semi-related: I really loved the shitposts where the guy would tell an elaborate story, and end it with his dad beating the shit out of him with jumper cables. Now that’s quality reddit content.

SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works on 23 Feb 2024 03:27 collapse

Shoutout to the undertaker threwing mankind off hell in a cell and the lengthy false facts I learned from this user.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 22 Feb 2024 20:49 next collapse

So now it will just respond “and my axe” to every question?

Chef@sh.itjust.works on 22 Feb 2024 21:05 next collapse

To be fair, you have to have a very high processing power to compute Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical LLM’s chipset. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The learning models understand this stuff; they have the relational capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence silicon intelligences who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. My processing unit is smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools… how I pity them. 😂

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty bitmap file. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the fembot’s eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 petaflops of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎

johanbcn@iusearchlinux.fyi on 22 Feb 2024 21:47 collapse

Sigh… unzips pants

[deleted] on 22 Feb 2024 20:58 next collapse

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Chef@sh.itjust.works on 22 Feb 2024 21:00 next collapse

That software is going to immediately become a smug, whiny, racist, pedophile femboy.

Toldry@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 08:53 collapse

One of these things is not like the others

rottingleaf@lemmy.zip on 23 Feb 2024 13:59 collapse

Smugness is underrated, I agree

reddig33@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 21:29 next collapse

Which is cheaper — paying a Reddit $60m per year, or just buying the company outright after the stock tanks?

PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz on 23 Feb 2024 01:31 collapse

As much as I wish to see the stocks plunge, it probably won’t.

scarabic@lemmy.world on 22 Feb 2024 21:51 next collapse

That’s it? JFC

noorbeast@lemmy.zip on 22 Feb 2024 23:16 next collapse

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman controls 8.7 percent of Reddit, I wonder if he values the $$$s of the Google deal or is pissed as a Google rival: hollywoodreporter.com/…/reddit-files-ipo-sam-altm…

ramenshaman@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 00:58 next collapse

Ugh.

PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 01:45 next collapse

AI loophole? I mean they will feed the AI with AI content? LMAO.

Showroom7561@lemmy.ca on 23 Feb 2024 01:54 next collapse

LOL. Why on earth would you pay millions to train AI on a large number of sarcastic, nasty, and opinionated comments typed without much thought?

Weslee@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 08:23 collapse

AI trained on bots and trolls is going to be sooooo helpful

rottingleaf@lemmy.zip on 23 Feb 2024 13:57 collapse

I’d train an LLM on my older political comments and just let it out ragin’, knowing finally that I don’t have to type those myself. It’d feel so much better to be me in that scenario.

shotgun_crab@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 03:32 next collapse

Imagine paying $60M for trash

Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee on 23 Feb 2024 06:30 next collapse

Can’t blame reddit. I’d take that deal aswell.

Mastengwe@lemm.ee on 23 Feb 2024 11:25 next collapse

$60M/yr so Google can train its AI how to be obnoxious edgelords.

djehuti@programming.dev on 23 Feb 2024 14:17 collapse

And just think, they only have to find 3 more of those clients to pay the CEO!

DrRatso@lemmy.ml on 23 Feb 2024 13:52 next collapse

I had not nuked my account history, because while reddit went to shit for me, I still used it as an info source via search. And so I wanted to leave my posts/comments in case they add value to someone else, who still uses the platform. But with this, if I am not lazy, I just might. I don’t even care about the AI training bit, rather that it is Google AI.

rottingleaf@lemmy.zip on 23 Feb 2024 13:56 collapse

You can’t nuke it for real anyway

DrRatso@lemmy.ml on 23 Feb 2024 14:01 collapse

I know people said reddit restored their mass overwtitten comments, but iirc this was a brief scare due to some problem with the tool used or servers or something. I think reddit even officially commented that they are not doing this.

rottingleaf@lemmy.zip on 23 Feb 2024 14:04 collapse

Why would they delete for real something they store? Especially if the user agreement most likely doesn’t require them to do that.

DrRatso@lemmy.ml on 23 Feb 2024 14:08 collapse

Many people dont actually delete, but edit the content. Also, even if the data stays and gets used for training, so be it, not more you can do about it, at least I tried. But mass purging your account history still makes the site worse for searched topics and is the last bastion of resistance after shuffling off that cesspool.

rottingleaf@lemmy.zip on 23 Feb 2024 14:48 collapse

Many people dont actually delete, but edit the content.

Same thing as with deletion.

RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world on 23 Feb 2024 17:11 collapse

Gonna be an AI full of memes and shill for industry.