Seems they don’t test

During tests they were holding it wrong.

They just figured oh well it works well in Cupertino. They omitted the fact that Cupertino doesn’t get super hot, ever.

I could see a case made for the test units having much better heat transfer and once mass produced the silicon lottery inevitably made some chips run hotter. But those variances are not massive, so it would’ve already had to run pretty hot. IDK

I can assure you it did, they just hoped no one would notice

It does.

Usually engineering and R&D sees these things, but they are too scared to contradict ambitious timelines set up by management.

Oh they knew. Apple is just pure scum.

Sheeple.

It does. But what is hot to me is different than what is hot to my wife. My 11 pro gets really hot if you fast charge it.

If this turns back into being Samsung Galaxy bombs…it’s going to be looking a lot worse if they do nothing.

I’m not an Apple fan by any by any means, but what a junk article! “Apple may reduce the clock speed of the processor”? C’mon! They do plenty of shitty things to dislike them for already. We don’t need to reach for hypotheticals…

I think it speaks volumes for how stagnant phone innovation has become when their marketing campaign is centered on the metal the frame is made out of.

this is also a guy who knows a lot about, and has been following Apple news for a long time.

“May” = some possible outcome written as the company are considering it.

The company further told Forbes that the fix, which should come with iOS 17.1, won’t result in throttled performance, which some, like Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, have said was a possibility.

i guess when you live in a tropical country? like by default the weather is super hot so naturally phones tend to overheat easily too.

Same here. My 15 pro max never gets noticeably warmer than my 14 pro did, even during the initial setup, where it’s doing lots of things. It seems more likely that this is a manufacturing problem that only affects some phones, because people are reporting super hot phones, most of the time, which nobody I know has seen. The phone itself is generating the heat - the climate difference doesn’t sound like the cause.

Apparently it can heat up randomly while doing something not intensive like listening to music or even sitting in your pocket, according to two people from the WVFRM podcast

Shitty sites like Facebook?

Same here, my 15 pro max is cold all the time

It’s not ambient temperature. Tons of people have had no problems using it in in places like Arizona or Florida. Other people have had it turn into a small furnace in much cooler areas / indoors. There’s something else going on.

Ditto. 2 15 Pros in the house.

Lots of gaming, shooting video, and doing those things while fast charging or Qi charging. It can get warm when pushed had for a long time, but no warmer than other phones or I’ve used.

In the big mega threads I generally see a handful of people who have been getting heat warning with these scenarios, but it doesn’t feel like it’s impacting the majority of users.

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But it uses the same connector as every other device I own, which is the biggest selling point of this year’s model. The performance gains are completely wasted because the 14 was already faster than needed for any usecase.

Why put the pressure on even selling it as a new product. Should’ve just pulled a 14s. Exact same but with usbc and made bank for another year.

It’s not the same phone, because it has USB-C. I wouldn’t have paid 600€ for an iPhone 14, but this one looks somewhat compelling to me.

move air with no moving parts

That would be a passive cooling system.

www.froresystems.com

This sounds promising. Dustproof. I dont think waterproofing the air channel will be necessary. This can be used as a way to create a channel for air to pass through without compromising the waterproof seal for the phone internals. The air channel can be a pass through and offers a big benefit in cooling. If there is blockage or damaged fins(I think they are vibrating fins.), then the phone will get warm and automatically throttle. A repair will not be needed unless you want the full performance. I live in the hot desert, and active cooling would be a dream come true. Every high-end phone gets hot to the touch from using GPS or streaming outside.

Edit: Another note is that most people don’t beat up their phones with high-pressure water(dirty or clean). If that was the case, then the phones water seal would suffer or be compromised as they are water resistant to low pressure and may not seal against high pressure.

Thin and flat too!

We already have. It’s called a Nintendo Switch

“Yeah this update is going to make your phones slower” is not something any smartphone producer would ever say. The difference might be negligible, but less power = less performance.