return2ozma@lemmy.world
on 16 May 2024 20:58
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Within a decade, you’ll likely access all of your cards with one credential and choose which payment method you’d like to use. That includes not just credit and debit cards, but also buy now, pay later options and direct payments from your bank account.
Visa is rolling out technology that will allow you to tap your card on your smart device to add it to your wallet. You’ll also be able to tap your card to your phone to confirm a transaction without needing to input any additional information.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 16 May 2024 21:21
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Visa is rolling out technology that will allow you to tap your card on your smart device to add it to your wallet. You’ll also be able to tap your card to your phone to confirm a transaction without needing to input any additional information.
So like almost any tap to pay system?
Shit I was doing this stuff with GPay for years.
Within a decade, you’ll likely access all of your cards with one credential and choose which payment method you’d like to use. That includes not just credit and debit cards, but also buy now, pay later options and direct payments from your bank account.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world
on 16 May 2024 21:11
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New AI technology promises to-
Hmm, where have I heard this before…
harsh3466@lemmy.ml
on 16 May 2024 23:36
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I noped out as soon as I read that line.
duckCityComplex@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 01:24
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The funny thing is AI is not really mentioned in the rest of the article. I don’t think any of the new technology being introduced has anything to do with AI.
I guess “AI” is just a synonym for “new stuff” now.
Sadly, too many places around here don’t get support Apple Pay and even less Google wallet. It’s definitely improved the last few years, probably 80%, but not 100%, so I’ve had to carry mine. So close I can’t wait!
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 01:55
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I’m getting old. Google keeps changing their touchless pay system and app. I got tired of switching after the third version of whatever Google is calling it now and gave up. Google pay, no Android pay, no Google wallet!
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 16 May 2024 22:52
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Assume you are not in US? Phone pay never caught on here in a big way unfortunately.
ThePrivacyPolicy@lemmy.ca
on 17 May 2024 01:50
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I did it when I was travelling to the US a few years back and the store clerk looked at me like I had two heads. It’s so normal in Canada I never thought much of it, and here I was a celebrity in this store and everyone was just wow’d at the magic I’d done.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world
on 18 May 2024 19:52
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I’m in the US and use my watch or phone for nearly every purchase. I was at the farmers market this morning and used my watch for five transactions. The last time I used a card was at the dentist a few weeks ago.
It is definitely picking up very quickly currently. Far more common in the last couple years than before.
Cheskaz@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 04:32
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I remember on reddit once someone from the US complaining about people assuming their bar had EFTPOS machines/pay wave saying “You wouldn’t go to the grocery store without your wallet?!”
And me, in Australia just being like…but… I do? I almost never take my wallet with me to the grocery store…
(Although, because my student public transport card is the only thing I can’t put on my phone, going out for drinks is one of the few times I’m almost guaranteed to have my wallet) (also because I want to have backups if something goes wrong while I’m inebriated)
I prefer carrying the plastic over carrying a tracking deivce everywhere with me. Then again, I’m one of those weirdos that also still carries cash.
(Note that I’m not saying you should ditch your phone—your priorities are doubtless different from mine—just that for me the tradeoff is not acceptable.)
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
on 16 May 2024 21:38
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Only when they stop trying to DRM lock phone pay to phones with locked bootloaders will I use phone pay
kirklennon@kbin.social
on 16 May 2024 21:38
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“The industry is at a pivotal point - new technologies like Gen AI are rapidly shifting how we shop and manage our finances,” said Jack Forestell, Chief Product and Strategy Officer, Visa.
This is so cringey. I get that investors are randomly throwing cash at companies that talk up "generative AI," but it has nothing to do with anything they announced. Is it impossible to just be content with ridiculously sophisticated algorithms? Did someone hold a gun up to these people and demand they spit out some drivel that uses the buzzwords du jour?
Also, the headline feature was solved a decade ago when Apple Pay was released (and no, not by the janky predecessors of Apple Pay but specifically with the launch of Apple Pay, which everything was then changed to replicate). One device that can hold an entire wallet of cards and I can choose what to use right when I pay? Wow! So new.
yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 16 May 2024 21:38
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lmao. as if the ai was gonna have a better carbon footprint than the small plastic thing you replace every 5-10 years
CheapFrottage@lemmynsfw.com
on 17 May 2024 06:34
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The post below this one in my feed is “Microsoft’s carbon emissions up by 30% due to ai”
metaStatic@kbin.social
on 16 May 2024 22:01
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“[Biometric confirmation is] a lot harder to compromise,”
And a lot easier to obtain by force
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 16 May 2024 22:53
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And a lot harder to alter when compromised.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 00:19
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SaltySalamander@fedia.io
on 17 May 2024 00:29
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100%, but they cost the card companies a hell of a lot more to produce. Ergo, plastic.
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works
on 16 May 2024 23:56
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Physical cards are harder to mess with then a phone. Physical cards are safer.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 03:46
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Can you explain that one to me? Anyone can take my card and use it, no one can take my phone and use it… also I would notice my phone being gone sooner. Cards dont have to transfer to other devices and have to be readded with the banks verification. A card is as easy as beep and draw an X, or not even have to “sign”.
plz1@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 04:08
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Until you get hit by a card skimmer. Encrypted NFC is safer than a physical card.
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
on 17 May 2024 04:21
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and how, pray tell, do you think contactless cards work?
I can put my credit card number in any transaction directly, and so can anyone else. Digital payment can provide a random one time card number (at the expense of privacy, admittedly). Physical cards are absolutely not safer.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
on 17 May 2024 01:45
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lol for fucks sake this is so deeply stupid
kalleboo@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 01:54
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Apple Pay/Google Pay already exists though?? What’s new?
The last credit card I got, it took me like a month or two to bother unpacking the physical card since right after signup I could already add the virtual card to Apple Pay through the bank app and I just used that.
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net
on 17 May 2024 02:29
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They’ll try to pull out of Apple Pay/Google Pay. At least that’s what Walmart did / is doing for the longest time in favor of their CurrenC or whatever thing in the US.
Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
on 19 May 2024 17:13
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Honestly I hope they do because I refuse to use google pay and I can’t use apple pay
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net
on 19 May 2024 17:33
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At the end of the day, that’s just trading one spying conglomerate for another.
Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
on 19 May 2024 17:53
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I know, that’s why I don’t use either
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee
on 17 May 2024 03:05
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Wow we really are marching right to towards a centralised digital currency with no privacy and no actually ownership.
Remember back in the day when owning stock meant u owned the actually stocks. Well now u own the right to the stocks but if the platform ur trading on goes under welp out of luck guess u don’t actually own them.
You will own nothing and be happy.
0x0@programming.dev
on 17 May 2024 08:42
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Well now u own the right to the stocks
Isn’t that called an option in the derivatives market? You can still own stock.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 09:53
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What? That’s not true. That’s what SIPC is for. Just like if a bank goes under and it’s FDIC insured, then you’re fine.
I could not be happier for the death of physical cash. I despise it so much.
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee
on 18 May 2024 18:28
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I too enjoy sucking the governments dick as they creepily investigate everything I spend money on to ensure absolute social conformity.
Meron35@lemmy.world
on 19 May 2024 02:01
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This only applies to discount brokers, all of which are licensed, regulated brokers.
You do, in fact, “own” the stocks you buy.
The internal plumbing of securities clearing, settlement, and registration is not a concern to retail investors.
Stop buying into juvenile conspiracies.
And if for some reason you are still not satisfied, you can always opt for a “full service” broker or ask to register the shares in your name, both of which are much more expensive.
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net
on 19 May 2024 22:17
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Vast majority of those who are vocal about “ownership” are from that reddit cult. They’ll drag you down to their level with nonsense and stupidity, trying to convince you that GameStop will make them multi-billionaires. Be careful and don’t waste too much of your time on them.
slaacaa@lemmy.world
on 17 May 2024 04:59
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Is there an AI technology that would help me not roll my eyes every time I hear AI? Can’t wait to add this to the garbage pile of popped bubbles next to NFT, blockchain and metaverse.
And I’m saying that as somebody who uses LLMs for work regularly, it is a useful tool, but the absolute delusional bullshit hype that imagines uses beyond its capabilities is exhausting.
FiskFisk33@startrek.website
on 18 May 2024 06:37
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LLM is amazing tech, but holy fuck I can’t wait to get out of this bubble. Some of these applications sound like when they put radium in butter in the 50’s, because atomic energy was so hype.
____@infosec.pub
on 19 May 2024 20:15
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Eh, somehow I missed that. Off to DDG for me, because I’m genuinely curious.
Pretty much this. It’s the radium craze, or the ozone craze, or a whole bunch of other fads - everything has to have AI/LLMs integrated in some way or it’s not “interesting” to shareholders.
BigTrout75@lemmy.world
on 18 May 2024 05:33
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If a title asks a question, the answer is always “no”. No?
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So like almost any tap to pay system?
Shit I was doing this stuff with GPay for years.
This is just PayPal.
yeah I never go to the grocery store with more than a bag and a phone…
and I would trust it about as much as paypal.
Zero.
So …. In a decade we’ll get ApplePay?
Hmm, where have I heard this before…
I noped out as soon as I read that line.
The funny thing is AI is not really mentioned in the rest of the article. I don’t think any of the new technology being introduced has anything to do with AI.
I guess “AI” is just a synonym for “new stuff” now.
“AI” is the new “cloud”
I also promise, to pay you back, if you give me 10 million. No contractual obligations, but I totally promise!
People still use physical cards? I haven’t been carrying any cards at all for so many years now.
There’s a transaction limit on tap payments. Sometimes you need to chip or swipe when it’s over $250 or something.
Seems like you're Canadian. America doesn't have limits on tap to pay.
It depends on the place. There’s a grocery store I go to (in Seattle, WA) that has a $100 limit for mobile payments.
I’d be happy to use Google Wallet most of the time but Google is real worried about my custom ROM and won’t allow me to.
Sadly, too many places around here don’t get support Apple Pay and even less Google wallet. It’s definitely improved the last few years, probably 80%, but not 100%, so I’ve had to carry mine. So close I can’t wait!
I’m getting old. Google keeps changing their touchless pay system and app. I got tired of switching after the third version of whatever Google is calling it now and gave up. Google pay, no Android pay, no Google wallet!
Assume you are not in US? Phone pay never caught on here in a big way unfortunately.
I did it when I was travelling to the US a few years back and the store clerk looked at me like I had two heads. It’s so normal in Canada I never thought much of it, and here I was a celebrity in this store and everyone was just wow’d at the magic I’d done.
I’m in the US and use my watch or phone for nearly every purchase. I was at the farmers market this morning and used my watch for five transactions. The last time I used a card was at the dentist a few weeks ago.
It is definitely picking up very quickly currently. Far more common in the last couple years than before.
I remember on reddit once someone from the US complaining about people assuming their bar had EFTPOS machines/pay wave saying “You wouldn’t go to the grocery store without your wallet?!”
And me, in Australia just being like…but… I do? I almost never take my wallet with me to the grocery store…
(Although, because my student public transport card is the only thing I can’t put on my phone, going out for drinks is one of the few times I’m almost guaranteed to have my wallet) (also because I want to have backups if something goes wrong while I’m inebriated)
I prefer carrying the plastic over carrying a tracking deivce everywhere with me. Then again, I’m one of those weirdos that also still carries cash.
(Note that I’m not saying you should ditch your phone—your priorities are doubtless different from mine—just that for me the tradeoff is not acceptable.)
Only when they stop trying to DRM lock phone pay to phones with locked bootloaders will I use phone pay
This is so cringey. I get that investors are randomly throwing cash at companies that talk up "generative AI," but it has nothing to do with anything they announced. Is it impossible to just be content with ridiculously sophisticated algorithms? Did someone hold a gun up to these people and demand they spit out some drivel that uses the buzzwords du jour?
Also, the headline feature was solved a decade ago when Apple Pay was released (and no, not by the janky predecessors of Apple Pay but specifically with the launch of Apple Pay, which everything was then changed to replicate). One device that can hold an entire wallet of cards and I can choose what to use right when I pay? Wow! So new.
lmao. as if the ai was gonna have a better carbon footprint than the small plastic thing you replace every 5-10 years
The post below this one in my feed is “Microsoft’s carbon emissions up by 30% due to ai”
And a lot easier to obtain by force
And a lot harder to alter when compromised.
Not hard enough.
msnbc.com/…/officials-say-56-million-fingerprints…
Stolen? LOL fingerprints cannot be stolen. Stealing is taking away something from someone.
They are not protected, they are not copyrighted, they don’t go away from you when someone copies them …
You leave them everywhere, every day.
Fingerprints are public knowlege.
Fingerprint [records]. It says that in the article. Does it please you to be so pedantic?
Identification != Authentication
As obvious as this sounds, I’ve learned over the years that most people don’t understand what it means exactly.
"Biometric confirmation" is both
I can’t wait for the article saying how we’re gonna solve world hunger with AI.
I think someone already wrote a proposal for that.
Nobody goes hungry if the Human race is extinct.
The same way Israel is solving hunger with AI in Gaza.
Stalin once said, “Net cheloveka, net problemy” (“No person, no problem”).
Aren’t metal cards better?
100%, but they cost the card companies a hell of a lot more to produce. Ergo, plastic.
Physical cards are harder to mess with then a phone. Physical cards are safer.
Can you explain that one to me? Anyone can take my card and use it, no one can take my phone and use it… also I would notice my phone being gone sooner. Cards dont have to transfer to other devices and have to be readded with the banks verification. A card is as easy as beep and draw an X, or not even have to “sign”.
Until you get hit by a card skimmer. Encrypted NFC is safer than a physical card.
and how, pray tell, do you think contactless cards work?
I was referring to services like Apple Pay
I haven’t used a swipe in years. Virtually all contact less now.
I can put my credit card number in any transaction directly, and so can anyone else. Digital payment can provide a random one time card number (at the expense of privacy, admittedly). Physical cards are absolutely not safer.
lol for fucks sake this is so deeply stupid
Apple Pay/Google Pay already exists though?? What’s new?
The last credit card I got, it took me like a month or two to bother unpacking the physical card since right after signup I could already add the virtual card to Apple Pay through the bank app and I just used that.
They’ll try to pull out of Apple Pay/Google Pay. At least that’s what Walmart did / is doing for the longest time in favor of their CurrenC or whatever thing in the US.
Honestly I hope they do because I refuse to use google pay and I can’t use apple pay
At the end of the day, that’s just trading one spying conglomerate for another.
I know, that’s why I don’t use either
Wow we really are marching right to towards a centralised digital currency with no privacy and no actually ownership.
Remember back in the day when owning stock meant u owned the actually stocks. Well now u own the right to the stocks but if the platform ur trading on goes under welp out of luck guess u don’t actually own them.
You will own nothing and be happy.
Isn’t that called an option in the derivatives market? You can still own stock.
What? That’s not true. That’s what SIPC is for. Just like if a bank goes under and it’s FDIC insured, then you’re fine.
robinhood.com/us/en/…/how-youre-protected/
SPIC lmao. They might want to rethink that acronym.
It’s actually SIPC - the Securities Investor Protection Corporation, so there aren’t any abbreviation problems.
Oops! Dyslexia lol. My bad.
I could not be happier for the death of physical cash. I despise it so much.
I too enjoy sucking the governments dick as they creepily investigate everything I spend money on to ensure absolute social conformity.
This only applies to discount brokers, all of which are licensed, regulated brokers.
You do, in fact, “own” the stocks you buy.
The internal plumbing of securities clearing, settlement, and registration is not a concern to retail investors.
Stop buying into juvenile conspiracies.
And if for some reason you are still not satisfied, you can always opt for a “full service” broker or ask to register the shares in your name, both of which are much more expensive.
Do I own my shares? – Trading 212 - …trading212.com/…/360008702918-Do-I-own-my-shares
Vast majority of those who are vocal about “ownership” are from that reddit cult. They’ll drag you down to their level with nonsense and stupidity, trying to convince you that GameStop will make them multi-billionaires. Be careful and don’t waste too much of your time on them.
This
Fuck credit cards, long life to cash!
Is there an AI technology that would help me not roll my eyes every time I hear AI? Can’t wait to add this to the garbage pile of popped bubbles next to NFT, blockchain and metaverse.
And I’m saying that as somebody who uses LLMs for work regularly, it is a useful tool, but the absolute delusional bullshit hype that imagines uses beyond its capabilities is exhausting.
LLM is amazing tech, but holy fuck I can’t wait to get out of this bubble. Some of these applications sound like when they put radium in butter in the 50’s, because atomic energy was so hype.
Eh, somehow I missed that. Off to DDG for me, because I’m genuinely curious.
Pretty much this. It’s the radium craze, or the ozone craze, or a whole bunch of other fads - everything has to have AI/LLMs integrated in some way or it’s not “interesting” to shareholders.
If a title asks a question, the answer is always “no”. No?
Betteridge’s Law.
Generally proves deeply true.
Am I missing something or is this the most vaguely written description? I don’t get it. Something biometric is all I got out of it
Cnet? Yeah, no.
The whole premise of how I use virtual cards is to separate - and block, as needed - charges from a given source.
If I use a physical card, it’s because I’m physically in a store and want to choose who charges my card, and when.
This is a step towards making it easier for random things to charge cards unexpectedly, and towards making it harder to dispute charges.
“You were there, per the thumb|face print. Therefore, you must have authorised it.”
That’s a sea change in how questionable charges/questionable disclaimers are handled.
Nope. I absolutely demand that protection, and if I lose it I’m taking my cash out of your bank ASAP and using that, suffering with change be damned.